Interview with Movie Producer and Actor Joey Travolta |
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Joey Travolta is a successful actor, director, and producer who started the critically acclaimed acting school, Actors for Autism. Most recently, Travolta served as the producer of the film Normal People Scare Me, a documentary about how autistic people see the rest of the world directed by Taylor Cross. Cross, a 17-year-old film maker, is autistic. The film features autistic people talking of their feelings about the NT world. |
This week's piece, conducted by Alex Plank of WrongPlanet.net, is an interview with Joey Travolta about Mr. Travolta's work with autistic actors, people who have an interest in acting, Travolta's work with Actor's for Autism, and how Travolta got involved with "Normal People Scare Me.” One of the individuals in the film is Wrong Planet's own Amy Gravino, who has written several pieces including a review and a story about the launch party for the film. Those pieces, which are part of our ongoing coverage of "Normal People Scare Me," will appear in the coming weeks on Wrong Planet.
Be sure to check out the premiere of Normal People Scare me on Thursday, April 27th at 6:30pm – Jewish Community Center, NY - J.C.C. Manhattan.
Joey Travolta and WrongPlanet
member Amy Gravino at John
The hand holding
crackers belongs to director Taylor Cross
So, what's your connection to
Travolta: Well my connection
to Autism is I am mentoring a 17 year old who, when I started was a 15
year old boy who has Autism, made a short film about Autism and they
had approached me about... I have a digital film and acting workshop
for kids about doing classes for special needs, predominantly kids on
the Autism spectrum and so we started doing classes and at that same
time I was sort of mentoring him on a short film called Normal
People Scare Me and that's how I got involved with it. I was a
former special Ed teacher and that's how they got to me when they
wrote an article that I was sponsoring this film festival and Taylor
Cross who is the director of the film... he wanted to enter a film
and I volunteered my equipment and I guess that's how it all got
That's great. So, you met Taylor Cross when he was 15. He's 16 right
And his film is premiering on the 7th?
Yeah, it's starting up in April, there's going to be some premiers
around the country. I know there's one in New York, and there's several
around the country and, you know it's not totally finished we still
have to mix the sound and do some things but for all intents and
purposes for national Autism awareness month we're trying to do some
So Taylor Cross was in your acting group?
No, he – they came to me about; one, the film, and two, doing,
you know, classes, he's in the acting group now. This was before he
was in the acting group. He actually just started taking the acting
classes in the last year.
How do you think Autism facilitates a career in acting?
Well, it's not that it facilitates a career in it, I think it fills a
lot of voids and I deal with people in this spectrum, because a lot
of the social skills, the interacting with people and knowing what
the proper social skills, whether they're right or wrong – who
knows? Which is kind of the point of Normal
People Scare Me because, you know, who is right? But anyway, to fit in this world it
kind of gives you a safe place to express yourself and build
confidence and get used to collaborating with other people, and then
it also teaches that gray area, especially through improv, you know,
how to think spontaneously, where a lot of time with young people in
this spectrum it's very black and white, their processing and the
gray areas or the areas that they don't get, and through acting you
learn those, through film making you learn those because it isn't
black and white, it's very subjective and it promotes thought and
provokes a collaborating which I think is huge.
Right. I have a friend and he has Asperger's and he's in a
Shakespeare acting group at UCLA, and one thing that I noticed about
him is that he seems to be much more outgoing during
the period of time that he's acting, like after the performances, he thinks that that's kind of something that it does to--
Well yeah because you're playing a character, your playing someone
outside yourself, but still you're playing a character and it's a
process that you have to go through, you know the work that you do to
play a character, you know I think it's a great tool for
I also act and
when people ask me why I'm good at acting I tell them I've had to act
my whole life just to fit into the social 'norms' of society you
know? And that's kinda how I felt.
Well, you know, we all kinda have to do that. Like when you're a
salesman you have to be able to sell yourself, when you're a
politician you have to be able to sell yourself, you have to be able
to convey your thoughts as a teacher, as, you know almost any walk of
life that you go into you have communication skills. So to feel
confident, to be able to present yourself or your product or the thing
that you do, you know, those are the skills that help you with acting
and film making.
Right. I think there are some people in Hollywood, I mean even
mainstream actors like Dan Aykroyd who have Asperger's Syndrome, do
you think that in any way Asperger's Syndrome kinda gives someone a
distinction that wouldn't
be there otherwise that kind of gets them noticed, and do you think
that the fact that these kids have to act to fit in with their
friends even more than most people who it comes naturally, I mean to
some extent, people without Asperger's still have to act but, I mean
there is a lot more, I think, adapting in the role of someone with
Asperger's Syndrome especially someone with a very high level of
intelligence like Dan Ackroyd, what do you think?
Well, I've worked with him before
and he's very bright. Yeah, in dealing with actors as a
director or producer, I would say a great deal of the actors are on
the spectrum, you know, and they looked to acting because nothing
else excites them, nothing else, you know. they don't want to play a
team sports, they don't want to do other things but there's something
about acting that is very attractive, you know, and it's just - it
fills so many voids for people, but as far as people in the spectrum
in this business I think there's quite a few.
When you worked with Dan Ackroyd on
'Susan's Plan' in 1998 did you know that he had Asperger's at that
No, I still didn't know, this is
the first I've heard of it.
Okay, he --
I mean, does he talk about it?
Yes, there's an interview on NPR in
which he talks about how he had Tourrettes and Asperger's when he was
a kid and now he still has the traits of Asperger's but...
Yeah, no I didn't know that but I
should call, I should let him know what I am doing.
Right, my friend is trying to do an
interview for the site since [NPR and Ackroyd] did have that interview.
WP: What was it
like to grow up in a show business family because I know that your
brother is an actor and I think your parents were somehow involved.
It was great, it was great growing
up in a show biz family, you know you just, it was what my family
did, so I was in it and around it, I didn't choose to go back down
that path until later because I promised my father I would get a
degree and I ended up with a special Ed degree which I did use my
acting, my whole philosophy of teaching if kids would listen to me
for five hours, if you can make your lesson plan entertaining and
perform it then you have something, you will keep their attention and
they can be educated at the same so I didn't really teach, I
Right, I think that's a really a
good difference because those are the kinds of teachers who kids
remember and you know --
Taylor Cross, director of
Normal People Scare Me
with actress Amy Gravino
Well yeah, you remember those, the
ones that are out there, that make it fun, because there's no reason
that education can't be fun.
What lead you to pursue a degree in
special education and you were saying that it was your father or --
You know what – I promised my
father I'd go to school and then when I got there, when we were
exploring different things, I went to Patterson State College in New
Jersey and I had to declare a major and I was kind of leaning to
education and I was always was kind of a protector of the special
needs kids when I was in high school, even a couple of my friends
today are probably somewhere more in special needs classes so it
seemed like a natural for me--
--and I really enjoy it but I got too
involved and I kind of got burnt out on it early, but, I'm
glad that I'm back involved because I get to do the things that I
love, which is make films and then pass on my knowledge to kids.
Right, I watched a video in which
someone did a report on Taylor Cross and the video that you guys were
doing, and I noticed that they were showing something to a group of
people and that he won two awards about something and it seems to be
that was the video so that's --
Ah, yeah that... you probably saw
the documentary that was “California Connected” and I
presented the award to him – that was my daughters film
festival and that's how it all got started at Chaminade High School in
the West Valley, that was the festival that it got entered into, and
I got a couple articles written about it and we got an award from
Clay Aiken and the film was honored by the quarterback
Doug Flutie, he's got a foundation, and so it's just one of those
things that you kind of strike a nerve.
I know that there is one event
being held at John Schneider's house and I know he has a son with
Asperger's, so do you other ever talk to other actors who have family
members with Autism?
Yeah, I mean a lot of them are on
our board of directors here, so yeah, we do share, but they're all on
our board for Actors for Autism
Okay, so John Schneider is --
he's on our board. Where did you go to
go? Normal People on IMDB?
Well I actually interviewed someone
who had taken part in the documentary ... her name was... Amy ...
JT:Was it one of the
people we interviewed?
Yeah, it was one of the people you
interviewed. So, what was the name of the person who was trying to
find the people to interview?
Well, Taylor's mom Kerri Bowers,
they were setting up the interviews, but I think Amy, I think,
because we did a couple people back East and maybe that's who you
I talked to someone who was from
New York who's going to the event on the 6th, and she is a
guest of Taylor Cross's mom.
Okay, well she must have been one
of the people that was interviewed, there were so many, we had hours
and hours of interviews.
I know that people with... a lot of
the entertainment business seem to be focused on who you know and
what connections you have and people with Autism obviously have
trouble with networking at the extent that their social skills in
person, like person to person interaction are kind of inhibited, what
kind of advice do you have with the more introverted or just socially
awkward people with Asperger's or Autism who want to find a way to
start doing acting as a professional career.
Well, I think most the important thing
is to take classes and get used to being on stage or being in front
of a camera because that's how you get better and see if it's for
you, because it's not an easy business, it's a very tough business,
but, if it's something that you love, and you're passionate about it,
and you have it in you, you'll find a place somewhere, but it's a
tough business. But most of the people don't get in it for the money
and the fame, they get in it because they like the work. There's
something about performing. My advice is to take class and try to
get on as many auditions as possible – the business has changed
so much, but if you can get in a play in school, any kind of theater
group you can get into, get into it.
Right, I actually saw that you did
West side Story at one point, my first time on stage was playing baby
John on West side Story, that was in high school and that's what got
me interested interested in the whole thing of just pretending to be
someone you're not, but doing it in front of other people and really
also out here there is a group called 'Media Access' and it caters to
people with disabilities, when there's a role for somebody that has
Autism or Asperger's they'll submit you and things like that.
Do you know who Gloria Castenada is?
Yeah, I hosted their awards
Oh that's great. Because I
registered with them at one point and I'm trying to get my friend --
Do you live in California?
I live in Washington D.C. I
actually live in Charlottesville, I've only been to California once, but, I
just registered while I was there.
Okay, well you know they're a
good group of people there. They try to look for people for work.
Have you seen Mozart and the Whale?
No I didn't, but my friends
produced that up in Washington.
You know it's about a guy named
Jerry Newport --
I interviewed him and he had some
family [in show business]. He said that the key in terms of getting
into [show business] is to always be accommodating of things because there are a
lot of different people and all of them could do the same
Oh yeah! You need... like
when I cast movies I'll get like five hundred to a thousand
submissions for one role, and there are probably a hundred and fifty
that could play the role just as good as anybody else, but it's just
how someone strikes you that day, you just don't know.
So, it's more of like an instinct, you can see something in someone
Yeah. Sometimes I'll cast somebody and not even read them, just like
a look, or I get a feel from them right away like, yeah they can do
That's interesting. Yeah, that's what a lot of people have told me.
... you first came into [contact with] people with Autism when you were a
special Education teacher?
No, it was, like I told you, two
years ago or two and a half years ago they approached me when they
saw that I was a former special Ed teacher and that's how it all got
started again, because I hadn't been involved, other than special
Olympics over the past twenty years, once in a while I get involved
with special Olympics but I hadn't been involved with the field, and
know it's become fifty percent of my life now.
You didn't start this group but you
work for this group, Actors for Autism?
We started that group.
With Asia Wolf, is that correct?
Could you give a summary [of Actors for Autism]?
Well, basically, it's to
scholarship kids into our programs, they can't afford it, into our
camps, we do film making camps in the summer, so we just started this
non-profit too, to further the education in the film and acting field.
That's good. I really appreciate
that you have been able to give me the insights that you have on this
because it's really great to see that there are people out there like
you, like fighting for the rights, and not just the rights, but
fighting for the welfare of people who have a harder time, in terms
of working with, in acting and just helping them out with the social
skills and I really appreciate that.
Well thank you.
Do you have any information on the camps?
in the summer we run these two week, ten-minute-short-film camps,
where we take them through the whole process of making a film and
then we make a film, together, it's like a two, two and a half day
shoot, and with a professionally written, professionally shot, and
then along side the pros, the kids make the short film. They are in
it, they help produce it, they help direct it, and we do it over a
two week period. We're doing one in Michigan, one at Oakland
University, they got a grant to do one so we're going in to run it
for them. We're doing one in San Francisco and San Jose, and then we
work three here during the summer, and then we're very close to
starting a practical film workshop where it will be a six month
program where we'll make a real movie that will be the lesson plan,
and during that period they'll work in it, around it, and go through
every step of making a feature length film.
All right. Thank you, I really
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