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Second Page: Study rules out vaccines as causes of autism
Posted on Tuesday, July 11 @ 16:01:46 EDT by | 
Pervasive developmental disorders (PDD) like autism and Asperger Syndrome have been on the rise for years. Measles Mumps Rubella (MMR) vaccines and thimerosal-containing vaccines (which are approximately 50 percent ethylmercury) have been suggested as possible causes. A new McGill University Health Centre (MUHC) study, published in the scientific journal Pediatrics, assessed the link between childhood immunizations and PDD in 28,000 Quebec children and finally clears MMR vaccines and thimerosal-containing immunizations as risk factors.
"There is no relationship between the level of exposure to MMR vaccines and thimerosal-containing vaccines and rates of autism," says Dr. Eric Fombonne, Director of Pediatric Psychiatry at The Montreal Children's Hospital of the MUHC and lead investigator of the new study. Thimerosal was used to prevent bacterial and fungal contamination in the manufacture of various vaccines until its elimination from vaccine formulas in 1996 in Quebec. "According to our data, the incidence of autism was higher in children who were vaccinated after thimerosal was eliminated from vaccines," says Dr. Fombonne.
"In the past, concern about a potential link between MMR vaccinations and autism led some parents to take the drastic step of refusing to inoculate their children against dangerous childhood diseases like measles," says Dr. Fombonne. "This action resulted in resurgence of the measles, which caused the deaths of several young children in Europe." Dr. Fombonne's study indicates that autism rates continued to increase even with reductions in the use of MMR vaccinations. "We hopes this study will finally put to rest the pervasive belief linking vaccines with developmental diseases like autism," says Dr. Fombonne.
Autism is a neuropsychiatry disorder that impairs a child's ability to communicate and interact with others. The prevalence is about 65 cases per 10,000 people (about 1 child in 155) making autism one of the most common childhood disorders. The Psychiatry Department at The Montreal Children's Hospital sees about 350 new cases of autism each year. However, Dr. Fombonne stresses that there is no demonstrated autism epidemic. He attributes the rise in autism rates to a broader definition of autism and greater awareness of the disorder.
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Re: Study rules out vaccines as causes of autism (Score: 1)
by lowfreq50 Wednesday, July 12 @ 08:42:08 EDT
(User Info | Send a Message | Journal) | | They refer to autism as a "common childhood disorder." Actually, I see this quite often; ASDs being referred to as "childhood disorders" as if it goes away with age.
It is a lifelong disorder. |
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Re: Study rules out vaccines as causes of autism (Score: 1)
by Captain_Brown Wednesday, July 12 @ 13:59:44 EDT
(User Info | Send a Message | Journal) | | Thank You for telling us :) |
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by GroovyDruid Wednesday, July 12 @ 16:24:03 EDT
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"Mr. Senator, I believe that nicotine is not addictive."
Gee, it's funny that the "conclusive" study slamming the door on all further speculation should come from a university in Montreal, home to several of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world. I would love to know who the biggest contributors to this university are, and who directly or indirectly funded the study.
Anyway, I don't think we've heard the last of this, not by a long shot. |
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What paper/site/what-ever is this from? (Score: 1)
by BeeBee Thursday, July 13 @ 10:01:29 EDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | | I'd like to write a letter to the editor about this "childhood disorder."
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Re: Study rules out vaccines as causes of autism (Score: 1)
by ljbouchard Thursday, July 13 @ 20:10:57 EDT
(User Info | Send a Message) http://webpages.charter.net/louisjbouchard | | We are getting bogged down in that the reported wrote that we are missing the story here.
People are saying that this study was bought and paid for by the pharmicutical companies. Well fine then. There is a list of 5 or 6 states in the US which have started to ban mercury in vaccines. We therefore have a great chance to replicate the study (at least until DSM V comes out and changes the definition and criteria).
If I remember correctly, studies which "proved" that vaccines caused ASDs were flawed to the point where the study could not even be reproduced.
No, we have not heard the last of the issue. There are too many parents in need of funds to assist their children and will be willing to go after anyone with deep pockets until the government or private decides to fund the services needed.
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Re: Study rules out vaccines as causes of autism (Score: 1)
by Remnant Thursday, July 13 @ 22:19:50 EDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | | We only get the reader's digest version of stuff like this, and we don't even know if trends were discovered and dismissed as "not statistically significant" and we can't even analyze the actual results of this study. All articles like this say "a new study" but don't refer us to the issue of the journal, page number, or give enough information that we can go to the library and look it up without doing a lot of work that the reporter should have done.
We also don't know what they are using in place of thimerosal, if anything. If the vaccine had to be reformulated, what exactly is in it now? I want actual molecular structures.
If autism rates increased after the change in the vaccines, this could be because of something new that was added and this could still point to the vaccines. Mercury is a reasonable suspect in autism but it is not the only suspect. Furthermore, I am never trusting of anyone who dismisses mercury in the system as a cause of problems when they should know better. |
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Re: Study rules out vaccines as causes of autism (Score: 1)
by lukesmum Friday, July 28 @ 10:40:00 EDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | | The Age of Autism: 'The first casualty'
By DAN OLMSTED
UPI Senior Editor
WASHINGTON, June 27 (UPI) -- A medical doctor in the U.S. House of Representatives delivered a harsh judgment this week on public health authorities whose job is making sure vaccinations are as safe as humanly possible.
"Federal agencies charged with overseeing vaccine safety research have failed," said Rep. David Weldon, R-Fla. "They have failed to provide sufficient resources for vaccine safety research. They have failed to fund extramural research. And, they have failed to free themselves from conflicts of interest that serve to undermine confidence in the safety of vaccines.
"The American public deserves better, and increasingly parents and the public at large are demanding better."
Weldon concentrated his fire on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which recommends the childhood immunization schedule through its Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices -- and has conducted numerous studies that find no association between vaccines and serious health problems, particularly autism.
But Weldon said the federal government in toto has failed to do its job.
"Several issues relating to vaccine safety have persisted for years. The response from public health authorities has been largely defensive from the outset, and the studies plagued by conflicts of interest."
It should be noted the CDC stands behind its research and that last year it separated its Immunization Safety Office from the National Immunization Program. Weldon says that's simply not enough to ensure impartial, aggressive investigation.
Weldon introduced a bill -- co-sponsored by Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y. -- that would create a new agency of vaccine safety that reports to the secretary of health and human services; require research to be independent of any vaccine-related decisions; and establish an 18-member advisory committee to create a vaccine research agenda. At least one-third of the committee would be made up of people with vaccine injuries or a vaccine-injured child.
Given the realities of the legislative calendar, Weldon told me, he's hoping to build support and hold hearings this fall on the measure and re-introduce it in the new Congress that convenes in January.
Weldon's approach is wide-ranging. For one thing, he's not putting all his eggs in the mercury-equals-autism basket, so to speak -- he's not asking for more research solely to determine whether the mercury-based preservative thimerosal triggered a huge rise in autism diagnoses in the 1990s.
While that question has been the focus of attention -- and properly so, given the government's own decision to phase out thimerosal from routine childhood immunizations beginning in 1999 -- there is the prospect that other vaccine ingredients, and other side effects, may be insidiously at work.
"There are unresolved questions about the MMR (measles-mumps-rubella) vaccine that arose in 1998 that should be fully investigated," Weldon said.
Indeed, this column recently reported on a cluster of cases in Olympia, Wash., that suggest a possible risk of autism from getting MMR and chickenpox shots too close together in a susceptible subset of children.
One of the children diagnosed with autism was in a clinical trial of a new vaccine combining all four of those live-virus vaccines, including 10 times as much chickenpox component as the standalone chickenpox vaccine. The manufacturer, Merck & Co., acknowledged that case -- and another from a similar trial in Olympia involving an experimental chickenpox vaccine given at the same time as the MMR -- was not reported to the FDA until March.
That was the same month we first inquired about the cases -- and six months after the new vaccine, called ProQuad, was approved by the FDA for all children 12 months to 12 years old.
Merck, like other vaccine manufacturers, mainstream medical groups and public health authorities, says there is no association between vaccines and autism. Weldon's bill would put that assertion to the test -- without the conflicts he says make such assurances suspect.
Beyond autism, a range of concerns are "out there" about the childhood immunization schedule, which has expanded greatly over the past two decades and now includes a Hepatitis B shot on the day of birth and the prospect of more combinations and components in coming years.
Few argue against the basic premise of mass vaccination against deadly diseases. The legitimate public-policy question is whether the authorities have gotten the details wrong -- vaccinating too soon against too many illnesses, not all of them life-threatening or likely to afflict children, and undertaking too little independent surveillance of possible unintended consequences.
From that perspective, it was hard to ignore the convergence of events at the Capitol Wednesday morning -- as Weldon spoke, members were awaiting the arrival of the Iraqi prime minister, Nouri al-Maliki, to address a joint session.
In the new book "Fiasco" about the Iraq war by Washington Post Pentagon Correspondent Thomas E. Ricks, the failure of public officials to properly gauge the real risks and potential rewards of the invasion are laid out in devastating detail.
"None of this was inevitable," Ricks writes. "It was made possible only through the intellectual acrobatics of simultaneously 'worst-casing' the threat presented by Iraq and 'best-casing' the subsequent cost and difficulty of occupying the country."
That made me go back and dig out a paper titled "From Safety Last To Children First," by Mark Blaxill of the group SafeMinds and Barbara Loe Fisher, president of the National Vaccine Information Center. It was submitted to a CDC panel on vaccine safety in 2004.
"The obvious concern is that benefits may be overstated and that risks will be suppressed," they wrote in terms that eerily echo Ricks'. And they made the war analogy explicit, citing "a mission of fighting a 'war on disease' that disregards the secondary and tertiary consequences of war and views innocent children as inevitable consequences."
"The language of conflict -- the 'war on disease,' 'combating the causes of epidemics,' 'fighting emerging infections' -- is closely connected to the language of military power and, of course, 'Disease Control.' History teaches us that when government officials are determined to fight a war, any war, truth can be the first casualty."
It would be ironic if the same patterns that led to a foreign policy "fiasco" were at work in domestic health policy. Weldon's bill is a first step toward finding out -- and making sure, if that did happen, it gets fixed before more casualties pile up.
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Re: Study rules out vaccines as causes of autism (Score: 1)
by egghead Tuesday, August 22 @ 16:59:06 EDT
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Sorry I came late to the fray.
AS, HFA, and autism are being diagnosed more and more. Because of the fears of thimerosol, many parents are refusing childhood vaccines altogether, not just thimerosol laden vaccines.
The jury is still out on late onset cases of AS and HFA, but in terms of diagnosis of classic childhood onset of autism, there is no difference between the rate of diagnosis of autism between any kids getting any vaccine and kids getting no vaccine. Therefore it is not the vaccine that causes autism.
It could be that a genetic predisposition to autism is triggered by some environmental issue that was not present 100 years ago, but the environmental insult theory has yet to find the culprit. |
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Re: Study rules out vaccines as causes of autism (Score: 1)
by myeyesseekreality Wednesday, January 10 @ 02:52:37 EST
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Yes finally research that reinforces what I tell everyone about this vaccine thing. People in my family have been showing the symptoms for autism for centuries.
If I hear another person say autism epidemic I will kick the tar out of them. |
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Re: Study rules out vaccines as causes of autism (Score: 1)
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Re: Govt. Study rules out vaccines as causes of autism (Score: 1)
by TimT Saturday, March 03 @ 12:20:22 EST
(User Info | Send a Message | Journal) http://christheals.org | | Can there be two or more causes for autism spectrum? Can there be a gene that the race has found useful to perpetuate? Can there also be poisons in our environment that induce something similar and more serious?
As for the MMR shots, is there nothing else they can use for a preservative than a mercury compound? Why is there no other option for the MMR shots? Why not a refrigerated MMR shot for those who have concerns?
Why is mercury treated as a dangerous environmental contamination like asbestos, but not in MMR shots or dentistry fillings?
Is the government concerned about a gigabuck lawsuit if they are wrong about "medical"" use of mercury? Could they buy or force respectable organizations to defend them with bogus research? Is the government noted for its honesty or dishonesty? |
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Re: Study rules out vaccines as causes of autism (Score: 1)
by cerasela Tuesday, September 18 @ 19:13:41 EDT
(User Info | Send a Message | Journal) | | Isn't it kind of funny(in a sarcastic way) how a poison like a vaccine can actually create smarter/nicer/kinder human beings? |
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