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[quote="oscuria"]For all my opinion is worth, I won't take medications unless I can trust them. Currently, I only trust Nyquil and Advil. I've been referred to a psychiatrist by doctors, parents, and psychologists. I don't look forward to it. :( Whenever I exercised, I didn't really feel that much different. I might not be paying attention though. Yesterday I was pretty down but I snapped myself out of it and actually exercised. So it wasn't the exercise that did it, just some drive inside me. It's weird. I can only snap myself out of whatever ails me. I can't use other methods other than my mind as it rarely helps in the (long term). And I heard about that on the Radio (iceb's link).[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>beef_bourito</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:45 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">this year exercise has been extremely helpful in fighting off depression. i was severely depressed in late '07 (starting in october, ended in late december) then it came back in late jan and lasted a few weeks. the problem is that when i start to get depressed i start to lose motivation so i don't do as much cardio. when i got depressed in late jan i realized this and went back and started training consistently and it went away. i also notice that if i stop doing cardio (when i have a lot of tests, like this last week) i start getting depressed again (this year). <br /> <br />That being said, not everyone wants to push themselves for that long (i generally do about an hour a day, sometimes more, lately i'm doing more high intensity work so it's shorter) so they might not be able to exercise long enough or intensely enough to reap the benefits. exercise might also have lesser effects on others so it might not be completely effective. I'm using it because i don't want to go on more drugs (school day doses of stimulants for adhd are enough for me) if i don't have to, even though Prozac worked very well for me 6 years ago (grade <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" border="0" /> with no noticeable side-effects or mood altering effects (just noticed that i had a good few months after a while).</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>merrymadscientist</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 1:43 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">In theory, exercise would be great if it worked. But I already exercise regularly and eat healthily and that didnt stop me from getting depressed again. I think it works maybe for low level depression, but not for severe clinical depression. I did find that walking helped when I was feeling really bad, but only to the extent that staying still was unbearable. And I kept on with my swimming, but often found myself crying in the changing rooms afterwards (or even in the pool whilst swimming), so it didnt really have much effect. <br /> <br />Effexor and antipsychotics together however did have an effect and I think without it I would still be in the same hole as before, or too tired of depression and life in general so would have ended it. I have found though that antidepressants alone (without antipsychotics) dont do anything for me much, so perhaps these studies comparing antidepressants alone and exercise have something to them - perhaps antipsychotics are more effective as antidepressants (after all I was told I was taking them for mood stabilisation not for psychosis).</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ADoyle</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:29 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">For me, exercise is far better than antidepressants as I gained weight and had other negative effects from taking Paxil. I'd rather go to the gym or even take a walk than even consider medication. I would see a counselor if for some reason the exercise stops working, only because they aren't going to prescribe medication.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Obres</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:16 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I find a short, vigorous workout lifts my mood immediately.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>lilyspetal</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:50 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Say No to Medications!</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Don't take medications! Seriously, so many people have horrible side effects: increased anxiety, depression, brain fog, suicidal thoughts. Pursue exercising- I have a new theory on depression which suggests that toxins (chemicals are body labels poisonous) is the main culprit for depression and anxiety like symptoms- somewhere along the line, you probably have an undiagnosed food allergy- what is your diet like and have you been seen by a registered dietitian? Try exercising, yoga, omega 3 oils (available through fish capsules) and a de-tox system and see if your depression has alleviated. I heard ecotherapy works for depression really well- it has a calming effect, maybe it has something to do with the plant's respiration of oxygen. So maybe if you pursue a run try running through a park or an area with a lot of plants, flowers, greenery (with company of course for safety if you can). Good luck. I would really try to hold off on medications, they are so tentative in treatment, it should be experimental medicine because that is essentially what it does, experiment.. I was depressed for a year and since trying the above (especially fish oils) I've noticed a huge improvement in mood. I work as a medical receptionist and it seems like a lot of our patients end up not treating their depression but exacerbating it and becoming dependent/addicted to the medications with severe withdrawals should they not take the medication. Good luck.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>oscuria</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:42 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>ignisfatuus wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I think people dismiss the power of exercise to regulate mood as New Age tripe. It is incredibly effective, and as a person who has been subjected to a number of drugs, I would say it is easily on par in terms of importance. The problem for me, however, is that I find it incredibly difficult to exercise in front of people. <br /> <br />I used to run early in the morning to avoid the crowds and noise of the day but the meds I was put on were causing me to sleep 12+ hours a day so I gave this routine up. I then started trying to run at night, but was harassed by roving gangs of youth and cars honking as they drove by. For someone hypersensitive to noise, people randomly honking at you is like a physical assault. <br /> <br />It's sad that someone who really enjoys being fit is kept from doing so by fear of people.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I exercise in my home. I never understood the reason for a gymnasium. My house is long enough for me to run around in. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /> <br /> <br />I'm just too lazy (unmotivated?) to exercise. I do consider myself overweight, but that is because I'm not "in shape". Other than that, I'm about or below average...I think.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Zonder</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:18 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Exercise vrs. Antidepressants</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Bluesummers wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I miss the times in my youth where I'd work out and push my body to it's absolute limit...and the high of accomplishment that would come thereafter. <br /> <br />I'd really like to get into the habit again, for it was relieving, but...booze is just so much easier <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Bluesummers - I hear you, I keep fighting that slippery slope. Had a couple at my favorite watering hole last evening. <br /> <br />If I am having a bad stress reaction I have great difficulty exercising, especially in the winter. It's like I get more sensitive to the cold, and I can't drag myself out of bed to run, or to jump in the cold water of the pool. If stress is really bad, I swim a few laps, and get dizzy, or ITBand (knee) pain prevents me from running. I was off of exercise for over a year and I'm trying to get back into it. Dang! It's so cold where I live.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>regularguy</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:09 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>ignisfatuus wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I think people dismiss the power of exercise to regulate mood as New Age tripe. It is incredibly effective, and as a person who has been subjected to a number of drugs, I would say it is easily on par in terms of importance.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />It's a shame that anyone would dismiss the power of exercise for promoting wellness. It definitely can have a positive effect on mood. <br /> <br />Having said that, I would not necessarily agree that exercise and medications are interchangeable. Depression seems like a very complex condition, so I am cautious about any medication, psychotherapy, or other treatment that seems like a complete way of fixing it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Bluesummers</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:18 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Exercise vrs. Antidepressants</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Zonder wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Is any one able to manage anxiety and depression with regular exercise instead of medications? I've been running and swimming for years and it seems to help a lot, most of the time. <br /> <br />Z</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I miss the times in my youth where I'd work out and push my body to it's absolute limit...and the high of accomplishment that would come thereafter. <br /> <br />I'd really like to get into the habit again, for it was relieving, but...booze is just so much easier <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ignisfatuus</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:12 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I think people dismiss the power of exercise to regulate mood as New Age tripe. It is incredibly effective, and as a person who has been subjected to a number of drugs, I would say it is easily on par in terms of importance. The problem for me, however, is that I find it incredibly difficult to exercise in front of people. <br /> <br />I used to run early in the morning to avoid the crowds and noise of the day but the meds I was put on were causing me to sleep 12+ hours a day so I gave this routine up. I then started trying to run at night, but was harassed by roving gangs of youth and cars honking as they drove by. For someone hypersensitive to noise, people randomly honking at you is like a physical assault. <br /> <br />It's sad that someone who really enjoys being fit is kept from doing so by fear of people.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>oscuria</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:05 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>regularguy wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>oscuria wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">For all my opinion is worth, I won't take medications unless I can trust them. Currently, I only trust Nyquil and Advil.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Hi, I think you're opinion's worth plenty. I'm curious, though: what is it about Nyquil and Advil that have earned your trust? <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I've been referred to a psychiatrist by doctors, parents, and psychologists. I don't look forward to it. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />I hope it will be helpful for you. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Whenever I exercised, I didn't really feel that much different. I might not be paying attention though. Yesterday I was pretty down but I snapped myself out of it and actually exercised. So it wasn't the exercise that did it, just some drive inside me. It's weird. I can only snap myself out of whatever ails me. I can't use other methods other than my mind as it rarely helps in the (long term).</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Is snapping yourself out of it the same thing as using willpower?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />1) I trust nyquil and advil because they work and don't change my personality. Besides, Nyquil tastes very close to jager. A+++++<img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /> <br /> <br />2) I don't like being recommended pills, shots, whatever. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" border="0" /> <br /> <br />3) Not really. I usually lack motivation, but sometimes there is a "switch" that is flipped on no matter how terrible a day has been. It brings me to a higher state. I become more energetic. Willpower, I lack. I can tell myself "do this, do that" and my body will not react.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>regularguy</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:53 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>oscuria wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">For all my opinion is worth, I won't take medications unless I can trust them. Currently, I only trust Nyquil and Advil.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Hi, I think you're opinion's worth plenty. I'm curious, though: what is it about Nyquil and Advil that have earned your trust? <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I've been referred to a psychiatrist by doctors, parents, and psychologists. I don't look forward to it. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />I hope it will be helpful for you. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Whenever I exercised, I didn't really feel that much different. I might not be paying attention though. Yesterday I was pretty down but I snapped myself out of it and actually exercised. So it wasn't the exercise that did it, just some drive inside me. It's weird. I can only snap myself out of whatever ails me. I can't use other methods other than my mind as it rarely helps in the (long term).</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Is snapping yourself out of it the same thing as using willpower?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>regularguy</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:48 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>iceb wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Article in news today: <br /><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7263494.stm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="postlink" >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7263494.stm</a></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Here's a link to the original paper: <br /> <br /><a href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pmed.0050045" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pmed.0050045</a></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Space</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:07 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">If you really need the meds, then exercise alone won't do it. If you don't need meds, then exercise will really make a difference in your mood.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>MsJ</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:19 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I love exercise and it helped me get over some low-level depression I had about 10 years ago (I didn't even know I was depressed until I began exercising regularly and my mood improved significantly), but all that said, I honestly don't think exercise is going to help someone with clinical depression - or it might, but only to a certain extent. I had a case of the blues, nothing really serious. <br /> <br />The thing with exercise, you have to be doing it intensely enough to raise your endorphin level for the "good feeling" part to really kick in. Perhaps I shouldn't admit this but I will anyway - I learned about the endorphin thing because before I started exercising regularly, I had a rather tight off-and-on-again relationship with certain opiates. Well, one day I was exercising and I got EXACTLY the same feeling I got when I got high. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif" alt="Shocked" border="0" /> So you KNOW I went chasing after that! No wonder I felt better! <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /> In any case, that's part of what makes you feel good after exercise, and if you get in the habit of exercising 4 or more times a week, it will definitely do wonders for your mood. I MADE it part of my life because I felt - and looked! - so much better. <br /> <br />But if someone is depressed enough to seek help and possibly need medication, I don't think I would consider doing exercise in its place. It's always possible to do both. <br /> <br />-J.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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