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[quote="Roxas_XIII"]Thank (insert deity here) that these ads are not in my city. Otherwise I'd be in jail for arson. Just hearing about these makes me want to grab a match, some gasoline, and a bus ride to New York. These bastards better hope they dont meet me in a dark alley.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>CockneyRebel</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:55 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>greendeltatke wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">The NYU Child Study Center hosted an online town hall yesterday about the ads. I read the whole transcript. Basically they were unapologetic. Apparently the increased "awareness" justified the fear-mongering to them. Their position is that if the world doesn't see autism as a scary, horrible disease, then people won't want to help autistic people.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I'm not diseased, and I don't need no bloody help.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>greendeltatke</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:15 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The NYU Child Study Center hosted an online town hall yesterday about the ads. I read the whole transcript. Basically they were unapologetic. Apparently the increased "awareness" justified the fear-mongering to them. Their position is that if the world doesn't see autism as a scary, horrible disease, then people won't want to help autistic people.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>CockneyRebel</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:12 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I am not held random, and I am not a disease. That's very old-school thinking, and I don't like that. I think that the people who made that stupid ad up, are held ransom, by stupidity. I also do not wish to be cured, because I'm not a shell. Those people like to make us out, to be handicapped weaklings. I hope that those ads are all torn down, and burned. That makes me very angry.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>sartresue</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:31 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Psych groups fury over 'ransom' ads.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Ransom a post topic <br /> <br />Asperger's and I are old friends. I live on the Spectrum. It is a comfort zone to me. Those notes were written by Neuro Tyrants ranting about that wich they do not understand. <br /> <br />I just noticed this topic, so I guess I have come in at the tail end, and the problem has been, to all intents and purposes, rectified. <br /> <br />I had better go for now. My skin feels as though it is crawling. NTicks, no doubt!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>DW_a_mom</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:06 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The amount of ignorance in the world is amazing. No one has kidnapped my son. He is who he is and I consider his condition to be a gift. One with some burdens attached, yes, but still a gift.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Tensho</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:56 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I just realised this post is brought back from in December and I hadnt heard abotu this campaign till now!!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>MrMark</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:41 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>alex wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">=================== <br />WrongPlanet Rules <br />=================== <br /> <br /> <br />* Mentioning your own site is only permitted once you've contributed substantial useful content to the forums.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>fritzflohr</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:19 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Is Autism a Mental Illness? Or is this the right question?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The NYU Child Study Center is an tremendously harmful organization that tricks parents using deceptive, emotionally manipulative ad campaigns, and then uses their children as guinea pigs in human experiments, often involving toxic, addictive, brain damaging psychiatric drugs. <br /> <br />Last summer, while I was in NY, me and a small group of other homeless youth, all survivors of psychiatric child abuse, engaged in a form of direct action protest of the NYU Child Study Center on the upper east side of Manhattan by raiding their entry way for their propaganda literature, which we tossed into the nearby river. It is good to see that other people are recognizing them as a force of harm. <br /> <br />It makes me really happy to hear folks decry the psychiatric industry for portraying kids on the the Autism spectrum as diseases in need of cures, but it makes me sad to see some of those same folks insist that, although it shouldn't be applied to Autistics, the disease concept, and all of the associated discrimination and abuse, is still suitable for certain other kids, kids who are labeled with what you would consider to be "legitimate" mental illnesses (which Autism's apparently not). <br /> <br />It reminds me of similar stances taken by the transgender community. The drive to free oneself from the tyranny of psychiatric abuse, while still making it clear that no larger challenge of the psychiatric industry is in store. After all, the "real" crazy people need to stay where they belong, so as to better illustrate the difference between "us" and "them", right? <br /> <br />I disagree with that logic, and I want to believe that more people in the Autistic spectrum community would likewise reject that claim, if they only had more access to data about the abusive practices of the psychiatric industry, the harm caused by psychiatric drugs, and the fabricated nature of all "mental illness". <br /> <br />Children receiving the increasingly popular label of Autism face much of the same abuse as children labeled with another increasing popular "disease" Bipolar Disorder. Kids who get put on neuroleptic antipsychotic drugs to control their behavior develop brain damage, interfering with learning, lowering IQs, and bringing about a syndrome of neurological damage called Tardive Dyskinesia, which results in abnormal, uncontrollable movements. Psychiatrists blame the deteriorating condition of these poor kids on their "mental illness" and drug them more and more in an endless cycle that few escape. I escaped. <br /> <br />I am 24 years old, and I am a survivor of psychiatric child abuse. My drug induced mental illness received many labels along the way, although, before I was put on any drugs it was first suggested that I might be Autistic, (this premise was rejected largely because my language skills were so extensive and this was before the popularization of the Asperger's label). I believe that a successful movement to affirm the value of, and prevent the psychiatric industry abuse and exploitation of, kids who are labeled with any kind of difference, must be unified, regardless of diagnostic label. <br /> <br />Anyone who is interested in learning more about psychiatric abuse, the fabrication of mental illness, and the harm caused by psychiatric drugs, should visit my website <br /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_arrow.gif" alt="Arrow" border="0" /> again**********ry dot com I am new on Wrong Planet. This is my first post, so they wont let me put a hyperlink to my website because apparently they think that wanting to post a hyperlink right away means that you are a spammer (I just got an error message saying that) but it's pretty simple to just type in again**********ry then . then com and that will get you to the site just as well as a hyperlink. I would appreciate it if folks would take the time to check it out, to read the articles, watch the videos, etc. I am very interested in getting feedback from more folks on the Autism spectrum about the ideas presented on Again**********ry!, a project that that was partially inspired by conversations I had in 2003 with a fellow psychiatric abuse survivor who identifies as Autistic. In 2005 I cofounded Again**********ry! with another young psychiatric abuse survivor who was recently happy to be re-labeled as having Asperger Syndrome. <br /> best, <br /> -Fritz.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LostInEmulation</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:24 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Similar here, Roxas, fortunately, it's a bit a journey to NYC for me. <br /> <br />I'm not in complete isolation even though I am less involved in society than others...</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Roxas_XIII</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:28 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Thank (insert deity here) that these ads are not in my city. Otherwise I'd be in jail for arson. Just hearing about these makes me want to grab a match, some gasoline, and a bus ride to New York. These bastards better hope they dont meet me in a dark alley.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jellybean</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:41 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">That is sick. I can't stand it when the NTs think this way. So just because we are different, we are being 'held ransom'? what a load of poop...</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AutisticAdvocacy</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:24 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><a href="http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt57870.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt57870.html</a></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Weirdobird</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:43 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>YowlingCat wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Most offensive of all to me was this characterization: <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">It's harsh and edgy and shocking but I don't think it's nearly as shocking as the diseases themselves, and the lack of treatment," he (Koplewicz) said. "It's time for psychotic disorders to be equal to physical disorders."</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">Psychotic?</span></span></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />This is horrific. I treat aspies, ADHDers and HFAs and approach it from a completely non-mind-therapy angle. Our conditions just have some symptoms that manifest as emotional or behavioral. That is all. How awful that someone is using the skewed viewpoint of mind disorders to get money to hammer the point of the mind disorder nonsense.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>violet_yoshi</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:34 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I was thinking about a ransom note, about their ransom note ads. So I guess it'd go something like this: <br /> <br />We have your dreams and your hopes for the future of your children. We will destroy these dreams, and replace them with nightmares. Nightmares that your children will suffer some form of perceived disorder. Once we have decided what to call that disorder, we will then plague you with guilt and fear for your children. We will convince you that your child needs to be cured, by us, even though there isn't anything all that wrong with them. Once we have control over you, and your children, we will proceed to assimilate you to our idea of what a person should be. We will make you more social, more willing to take orders without question. We will make you malleable, and without resistance. Then we will proceed to pronounce you as cured. <br /> <br /> NYC Child Study Center - <a href="http://www.aboutourkids.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.aboutourkids.org</a> <br /> <br /> <br /> *Praise Ford! <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />*If you don't get it, it's a reference to the book Brave New World. Yeah, cause this whole thing kind of ended up sounding a bit totalitarian, like 1984 and all that.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Douglas_MacNeill</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:25 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hey, guys and gals: <br /> <br />I sent a cheerful little reply of my own <br />to the good people at the Child Study Centre <br />over the Web. In it, I made a discreet <br />little suggestion to the effect that the <br />Health Research Ethics panel at NYU was... <br />asleep at the switch? absent and accounted for? <br />unjustly overruled by a third party? too <br />scared to stand up for the panel's rightful authority? <br />No matter; if NYU wants to try another advertising stunt <br />like that, I'm ready to take them on if their HRE panel <br />bails out again.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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