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[quote="Mikomi"]Cardiologists, pulmonologists, rheumatologists...etc...don't need to know about autism. That said, I actually had a young Early Intervention teacher tell me my daughter and son could not possibly have autism because "they don't act like it".[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Sophist</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:30 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Autism Unawareness</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Knaidle wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Last night I gave my students an exam. It was a Physiology exam and one of the topics covered was mirror neurons which had a reference to autism. Several students raised their hand and asked me what autism was. I couldn't believe it! Aside from the fact that it was mentioned in lecture, how could these students not know what autism is?! These are 3rd year undergraduates in one of the top universities in the country and most of them will be applying to medical school. What was even more shocking though, was when I went and told the other TA that I couldn't believe the students didn't know what autism is and he replied 'just tell them that it is a form of mental retardation'. <br /> <br />WHAT??!!?? <br /> <br />Is this representative of the general population? Are people really that ignorant about the subject? <br /> <br />I guess it is hard for me to believe that a lot of people know nearly nothing about a subject that I am obsessed with.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />That's surprising. I did a presentation on ASCs in my German I class (was able to do it because Kanner and Asperger were both Austrian), and I took a quick poll before I started as to who had heard of "autism". Despite that it was a small class, everyone had heard of it. Nobody of course had heard of AS, but hey, that wasn't too surprising.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Stevopedia</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:19 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>srriv345 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Jay Gatsby? Really? On what basis? <br /> <br /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />There's a bit somewhere about how he was restless and "there was always a foot tapping" or something to that affect (I'm too lazy to look it up.) He's socially awkward; he's petrified when he comes to Nick's place and sees Daisy for the first time in years. He obsesses over Daisy, and knows how long it's been (to the day) that it's been since he's seen her. In the end of the book one of the characters digs up one of Gatsby's childhood books, which has a long and detailed schedule for all his activities of the day. He makes a <span style="font-style: italic">massive</span> social blunder/faux pas with regards to Daisy (to say more would make spoilers.) His tastes tend to be eccentric. No one knows who Gatsby really is, as a person. <br /> <br />There's no doubt in my mind that Gatsby is an aspie.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>zen_mistress</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:08 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I remember when I first heard about autism, I was a teenager. <br /> <br />I read that they are people who cant perceive people's emotions and I thought it was interesting though I didnt think it was me because i could read emotions in people's voices and recognise facial expressions a reasonable amount. (though I didnt really give either my full attention, I was always tuned into my own head and I would forget to look at these things). <br /> <br />I just couldnt process the non verbal stuff and I didnt have a good theory of mind, but I didnt have enough of a theory of mind to realise I didnt have a good theory of mind! <br /> <br />So I never considered that I might have autistic traits. It wasnt till I read about Aspergers that I started to get suspicious. <br /> <br />So yes there are many misconceptions about the topic out there.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>srriv345</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:05 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Jay Gatsby? Really? On what basis? <br /> <br />On the subject of this thread, there really are a lot of misconceptions about autism out there. I can never explain it to people all that well. Even today I was talking to a relatively well-informed college administrator who kept referring to AS as an "illness." Ack, no.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Knaidle</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:37 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Ok, I read all of your replies and I realize that I was not justified in being shocked especially since I myself did not know much about autism several years ago. I am likely equally ignorant about other issues that mean a lot to someone else.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Stevopedia</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:52 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>CockneyRebel wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I've already typed my opinion about this in Autism Is a Dirty Word. I hate how people only think about Rain Man. They don't think about Bill Gates, or Sue Ruben. They don't think about Temple Gradin. They don't think about the fictional characters, who are in other movies, such as Austin Powers, who is clearly an aspie, or Sid, who's quite a bit more affected by AS, than Austin. They don't think about that woman in the movie, 'Under The Piano'.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Or Jay Gatsby (from The Great Gatsby) or Sherlock Holmes, to add to the fictional list. And historically, there's Lewis Carroll, Thomas Jefferson, Newton, Einstein... the list goes on and on.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Odin</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:46 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">A typical comment I get is that I can't be autistic because "your nothing like Bobbie (a non-verbal LFA woman I went to school with)" <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>CockneyRebel</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:07 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I've already typed my opinion about this in Autism Is a Dirty Word. I hate how people only think about Rain Man. They don't think about Bill Gates, or Sue Ruben. They don't think about Temple Gradin. They don't think about the fictional characters, who are in other movies, such as Austin Powers, who is clearly an aspie, or Sid, who's quite a bit more affected by AS, than Austin. They don't think about that woman in the movie, 'Under The Piano'.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>sarahstilettos</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:23 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">To be honest I feel quite embarrassed about how little I knew about Autism in a general sense before I started reading about Aspergers. The trouble is that there's just no point at which someone would find out. What would it be covered under at school? It could just about slip into Biology or Psychology, but I've not heard of it being taught under either. Almost all media coverage is useless. <br /> <br />What I would do is find a nice information sheet about autism - the one on the national autistic society's website is good - and make a copy for all your students, telling them you think it would clear up their misconceptions. Sorted.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Orwell</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:41 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>pakled wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I didn't know about it for 48 years, and I <span style="font-style: italic">are</span> one...<img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Same here (well, not quite as long). I thought autism was just mental retardation until I read enough about it to realize that I'm autistic.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>pakled</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:26 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I didn't know about it for 48 years, and I <span style="font-style: italic">are</span> one...<img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Mikomi</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:45 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Cardiologists, pulmonologists, rheumatologists...etc...don't need to know about autism. <br /> <br />That said, I actually had a young Early Intervention teacher tell me my daughter and son could not possibly have autism because "they don't act like it".</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>SilverProteus</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:41 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Unfortunately this ignorance stretches itself to <span style="font-style: italic">after</span> med school. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>sartresue</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:33 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Autism Unawareness</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Ignorance is piss topic <br /> <br />For someone of his educational level (TA) this person is the backward one. he should not be in such as position, influencing the learning of others. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif" alt="Mad" border="0" /> <br /> <br />A 'friend' of my son once referred to me as a 'retard', a 'sped' (slang for special ed) and my son no longer has any contact with him. Way to go, Mark! Thanks for the support. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>richie</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:51 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Gets worse, those who do know something about autism are grossly misinformed by the scare tactics of Autism Speaks <br />and exaggerated portrayals of autism in movies such as "Rain-Man".</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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