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[quote="Smelena"][quote]Good news guys. I spent about an hour talking with the reporter from the Chicago Tribune who wrote that blog post. She's going to be doing another blog post from the autistic perspective. And she also wants to do a news article in the Trbune about neurodiversity! [/quote] Congratulations Alex! This is wonderful news! [quote]The voices of people with autism seem to be drowned out by an overwhelming perspective of parents who refuse to accept their children for who they are. The life of an autistic person is just as valuable as any other life and has just as much a right to be represented by the media. [/quote] I am a NT Mum of 3 sons (2 diagnosed with Asperger's, 3rd I think is Aspie and will seek diagnosis before he starts school) and I accept and cherish my sons. I don't understand parents who refuse to accept their children. Perhaps they are suffering depression and when they were most vulnerable got brainwashed by Autism Speaks? When I was depressed and vulnerable I joined WrongPlanet! With support from WrongPlanet and my psychologist, my depression is gone. If you tell a child from birth that they are diseased, they are not going to reach their full potential. Helen[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LeKiwi</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:23 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Do a search for what aspartame is made up of, what the body breaks those things down into, and how it utilises them and they affect cell structure etc.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>beau99</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:20 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>LeKiwi wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Beau, I'm sorry but in this case you're arguing with chemistry. There is no debate to be had - the scientific fact is indisputable.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />How am I?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LeKiwi</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:17 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Satellite wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>LeKiwi wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Everyone's allergic because it's a noxious, toxic substance. But that's just chemistry and not worth getting into... a different thread, perhaps.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />"Allergic" as in "causes immediate physical reaction" is quite different from "may cause something with years of exposure", so I wouldn't say "everyone's allergic".</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />True, and I doubt most people have an immediate immune response as is required in true allergies. But considering how toxic it is and that a single exposure is enough to cause problems or start them off in every person - noticeable or not - it's something to be avoided. I take it you're phenylketonuric?? <br /> <br />Anyway, another thread. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Satellite</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:14 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>LeKiwi wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Everyone's allergic because it's a noxious, toxic substance. But that's just chemistry and not worth getting into... a different thread, perhaps.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />"Allergic" as in "causes immediate physical reaction" is quite different from "may cause something with years of exposure", so I wouldn't say "everyone's allergic".</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LeKiwi</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:10 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Everyone's allergic because it's a noxious, toxic substance. But that's just chemistry and not worth getting into... a different thread, perhaps.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Satellite</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:59 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>beau99 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>LeKiwi wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>beau99 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>zendell wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>beau99 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>LeKiwi wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">That chemical sweetener aspartame (yeah, the noxious carcinogen)... that was never developed as a sweetener, it was developed as an animal poison. People eat it.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Uh. Nobody's gotten cancer from it.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />idk about cancer but it put some holes in the brains of rats they tested it on</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Yeah, but rats aren't human beings. <br /> <br />What's toxic to one organism may or may not be toxic to another.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /> <br />So the fact that its components are phenylalanine, methanol and aspartic acid, and it breaks down into formeldehyde and formic acid, alongside other components</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Which are then expelled from the body as waste products. <br /> <br />Not to mention that aspartic acid is found naturally in most meat and some vegetable sources.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Not commenting on whether aspartame is toxic or not, but I just have to add that some people (myself and half my family included) are allergic to aspartame and/or acesulfame K. It's frustrating that it sometimes feels like they're everywhere these days. <br /> <br />Though, I don't think aspartame has much to do with the topic of this thread...</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LeKiwi</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:51 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Beau, I'm sorry but in this case you're arguing with chemistry. There is no debate to be had - the scientific fact is indisputable.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>beau99</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:49 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>LeKiwi wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>beau99 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>zendell wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>beau99 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>LeKiwi wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">That chemical sweetener aspartame (yeah, the noxious carcinogen)... that was never developed as a sweetener, it was developed as an animal poison. People eat it.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Uh. Nobody's gotten cancer from it.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />idk about cancer but it put some holes in the brains of rats they tested it on</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Yeah, but rats aren't human beings. <br /> <br />What's toxic to one organism may or may not be toxic to another.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /> <br />So the fact that its components are phenylalanine, methanol and aspartic acid, and it breaks down into formeldehyde and formic acid, alongside other components</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Which are then expelled from the body as waste products. <br /> <br />Not to mention that aspartic acid is found naturally in most meat and some vegetable sources.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pepperfire</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:46 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>LeKiwi wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Pepperfire wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>LeKiwi wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I think there could well be some merit to the chelation thing for some people, but you would have to be extremely careful about who you chose to carry out the treatment, and that you weren't going to end up depleting the child of too many other metals the body DOES need... constant tests etc (which could be traumatic too). I dunno - I'm sure it's well-intentioned but I certainly wouldn't think it would be for everyone.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Oh now, you're not serious... vaccination is not ok, but chelation is???</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I don't know enough about the drugs/substances involved to comment to be honest; I was more commenting that from what I understand of it (one of several substances is given to the child, that forces the body to excrete metals lodged in the body, but it does carry risks, and that it's usually used in cases of lead or mercury poisoning - please please please correct me I'm wrong!) it could be feasible for a few children where heavy metal poisoning could be implicated as a possibility alongside.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />The problem is not in using chelation therapy to treat children who are suffering from heavy metal poisoning, the problem is in using it willy nilly on autistic children. It has a bad habit of killing them! <br /> <br />I gotta kick out of this study. It counters the use of chelation on children as dangerous and RECOMMENDS vaccinating children, especially autistic ones. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /> <br /> <br /><a href="http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/118/1/e139" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/118/1/e139</a> <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"><span style="font-weight: bold">Implications</span> <br />There are several important implications of this study. First, our study adds additional evidence deriving from a large, population-based survey that PDDs are one of the most common developmental disorders in young children. With a prevalence of 0.6% to 0.7%, the service implications are straightforward. Second, as in other recent studies, factors such as broadening of diagnostic criteria, improved awareness about the disorder, changes in official social and educational policies, and improved access to services are certainly the primary driving force underlying the increasing prevalence figures.7 Yet, the possibility that a real change in the incidence could have occurred as well cannot be definitely ruled out from existing data. Third, our findings clearly failed to detect any relationship between thimerosal exposure and rates of PDDs. These findings concur with those from other similar ecological investigations34, 35 and of more controlled epidemiological studies.25, 38 Previous negative studies, especially those conducted in European countries, have sometimes been criticized on the account that either the rates of PDDs were not as high as those in North America, that the cumulative exposure to thimerosal was much lower than that attained in the United States in the 1990s, or both. This study avoids both pitfalls and is, therefore, very informative for the North American public. In addition, the rate of exposure varied from nil to very high levels of vaccine-derived ethylmercury, allowing us to test for effects along the full range of exposure and to detect possible threshold effects as well. All of the results were negative. Fourth, as in previous studies,25 no effect of MMR vaccine could be detected on the risk of PDD. The trends went in opposite directions, making it unlikely that even small effects applying to a small subset of children would exist. Furthermore, this study added new evidence suggesting that the 2-MMR dose schedule before age 2 years also had no impact on rates of PDD. Fifth, parents of children with PDD and the general public should be made aware of the consistency of negative studies on the 2 hypotheses linking risk of autism and immunizations. <span style="font-weight: bold">Children with autism and their younger unaffected siblings should be vaccinated. Unvaccinated children are at much higher risk of contracting measles and suffering from its sometimes severe or lethal complications.71 There is no evidence for an epidemiological association between ethylmercury and autism and no scientific basis for using chelation therapies, which can be dangerous. Decreasing MMR uptake in the British isles has led to more frequent measles outbreaks of greater magnitude27 and to children's deaths.72 Findings of negative studies are, indeed, more difficult to convey, but, here, the evidence lies in the striking convergence of studies accumulated by different groups, with different designs and in different places.</span></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LeKiwi</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:14 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Pepperfire wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>LeKiwi wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I think there could well be some merit to the chelation thing for some people, but you would have to be extremely careful about who you chose to carry out the treatment, and that you weren't going to end up depleting the child of too many other metals the body DOES need... constant tests etc (which could be traumatic too). I dunno - I'm sure it's well-intentioned but I certainly wouldn't think it would be for everyone.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Oh now, you're not serious... vaccination is not ok, but chelation is???</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I don't know enough about the drugs/substances involved to comment to be honest; I was more commenting that from what I understand of it (one of several substances is given to the child, that forces the body to excrete metals lodged in the body, but it does carry risks, and that it's usually used in cases of lead or mercury poisoning - please please please correct me I'm wrong!) it could be feasible for a few children where heavy metal poisoning could be implicated as a possibility alongside.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pepperfire</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:00 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>LeKiwi wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I think there could well be some merit to the chelation thing for some people, but you would have to be extremely careful about who you chose to carry out the treatment, and that you weren't going to end up depleting the child of too many other metals the body DOES need... constant tests etc (which could be traumatic too). I dunno - I'm sure it's well-intentioned but I certainly wouldn't think it would be for everyone.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Oh now, you're not serious... vaccination is not ok, but chelation is???</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LeKiwi</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:37 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I think there could well be some merit to the chelation thing for some people, but you would have to be extremely careful about who you chose to carry out the treatment, and that you weren't going to end up depleting the child of too many other metals the body DOES need... constant tests etc (which could be traumatic too). I dunno - I'm sure it's well-intentioned but I certainly wouldn't think it would be for everyone.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pepperfire</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:01 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>CockneyRebel wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I think that the parents who use that treatment on their autistic children might be deliberately trying to kill them. I don't think that they want them to live, anymore.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Now there is an interesting insight, Sid. How does one simply turn a blind eye to the fact that chelations have indeed killed children and then put them onto their children... it doesn't make sense to me. <br /> <br />Course, I know only what I've learned the last couple of days about it, but it's creepy.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>CockneyRebel</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:54 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I think that the parents who use that treatment on their autistic children might be deliberately trying to kill them. I don't think that they want them to live, anymore.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LeKiwi</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:42 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>beau99 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>zendell wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>beau99 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>LeKiwi wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">That chemical sweetener aspartame (yeah, the noxious carcinogen)... that was never developed as a sweetener, it was developed as an animal poison. People eat it.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Uh. Nobody's gotten cancer from it.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />idk about cancer but it put some holes in the brains of rats they tested it on</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Yeah, but rats aren't human beings. <br /> <br />What's toxic to one organism may or may not be toxic to another.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /> <br />So the fact that its components are phenylalanine, methanol and aspartic acid, and it breaks down into formeldehyde and formic acid, alongside other components... it also has over 92 registered symptoms of its poisoning listed with the FDA. It's carcinogenic, noxious, and dangerous, and to deny it would be to deny basic chemistry.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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