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[quote="MartyMoose"][quote="morning_after"][quote="MartyMoose"][quote="morning_after"]She was convinced that vaccines caused autism, saying that the CDC could eat their words when they said otherwise. She was supposed to be talking about that, but I felt she was intolerant of anyone who didn't believe what she did. Among other things she said that her child died when he developed autism. Is it me, or does this woman come off as rude and disrespectful? I also wondered if she could secretly be convinced she was responsible for her child's autism. Seriously, I wanted to yell at her.[/quote] She's not very smart. She grew up near me. My sister went to the same high school she went to. They've pretty much disowned her over there.[/quote] Really? Just because she wasn't smart?[/quote] No because she's a bimbo[/quote]
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roguetech
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:19 pm
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Those wondering about her and Drew Carry's stance, can go to
http://www.generationrescue.org/
.
I do find it interesting that under "treatment", she sums it up herself:
Quote:
1. Bring the toxin load down
2. Help the gut heal
3. Get the nutrients up
4. Get the metals and other toxins out
Couldn't sum it up better myself, short of jumping on Oprah's couch.
roguetech
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:07 pm
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I going to skip the question of why Larry King had Jenny McCarthy, a Playboy model, and David Kirby, a journalist, squaring off with three medical doctors, and focus on McCarthy, though I'm really not sure why! ...
Horrible smoke screen. She presents a very garbled message to her "followers". Most people will hear "vaccines are bad," "vaccines cause Autism," and "Autism is bad." Some people might hear "Autism is cureable."
Part of the problem with McCarthy is that she's all over the map. Pick something!
Don't like the ingredients in vaccines? Okay. Tell us why.
Don't like the schedule and number of vaccines? If I had to give my kids
36
vaccines, I'd be pissed too! [edit: BTW, I think the transcript is inaccurate. I -think- she says "then give me some measles", not "then give me mumps and measles". It's hard to make out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSSS2BIthcg
1:11. But personally, I would be more than willing to give her mumps and/or measles, so long as she's quaranteened.]
Think diet helped your kid, and think it will work for everyone else's kid? Preach on! (Not that I can afford health food like she can!)
Think behavioral therapy helped your kid, and think it will work for everyone else's kid? Whatever! (Not that I can afford intensive behavioral therapy like she can!)
The other part of the problem is that she's a close-minded, unreasonable, loud mouthed, hipocritical, dumbass bitch. Who knows, one day, maybe we'll find a cure.
beau99
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:26 pm
Post subject:
Pepperfire wrote:
morning_after wrote:
Pepperfire wrote:
morning_after wrote:
Maxrebo wrote:
Oh sure,what I was saying was that I can't stand the those who are intorerlant because of someones race,religion,ethnic background,gender,sexual preference and now whether or not some has autism or aspergers. I am afraid that in the future that you would go to a resturant and I would have to leave because it was a no aspies establishment. Is it just me but do you think its becoming a trend to say your kid as a form of autism and using bizare methods to try fix them like a diet but thats not gonna fix a brain problem. Its the modern age version of snake oil. I hope this helps ungarble my old post.
Thank you.
I think Autism is what ADD was about ten years ago. ADD was supposed to be an epidemic that needed to be stopped and it seemed like everyone was afraid their child was ADD.
I think a lot of it will pass.
I too think a lot of it will pass... maybe ... only not if those of us who have a voice don't say something. Of that eventuality, I am not convinced.
The number of kids being given ritalin although they are NOT ADD is sad.
It's stuff like that which scares me. Not for me, but for all those kids who will be diagnosed as aspies but who don't NEED chelation therapies and GFCF diets.
you know?
How would you describe chelation therapies?
I would describe them as overkill, not to mention exceedingly dangerous UNLESS the patient was actually diagnosed with heavy metal poisoning.
And even then, it's dangerous and that's why no licensed toxicologist will allow it except in very extreme cases.
Chibi_Neko
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:50 am
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Has Jenny ever considered the fact things happen in the womb too? It's not always a perfect place.
What about the women that do things to themselves during pregnancy? Drink, smoke, don't eat some foods that they should (Not saying this causes autism, but it does cause health issues to the fetus that effects its life outside the womb)
Jenny reminds me of a 'soccer mom' and I really don't like soccer moms. Their kid is perfect in everyway. If their kid is in trouble, it's NEVER their fault. My sister-in-law is a soccer mom and reminds me of Jenny. My niece has ADD, and my sister-in-law says she's disabled. I told her that 'what kid dosn't have a lot of energy? I'd be worried if she didn't like to play a lot'
My niece is on drugs now.... she's really not herself while she's on them.
Gremlin
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:50 am
Post subject: Re: Jenna McCarthy was on CNN last night.
morning_after wrote:
She was convinced that vaccines caused autism, saying that the CDC could eat their words when they said otherwise.
Erm...my parents went through a phase with christianscience and I wasn't vaccinated. Can we pretend there's some other stupid cause, like fluoridated water? I've had fluoridated water. Have you? There you go. Enact Plan R. For the children.
As much as I dig the first amendment, I sometimes wonder whether I'd really mind an intellectually based Licence to Speak.
Pepperfire
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:55 pm
Post subject:
morning_after wrote:
Pepperfire wrote:
morning_after wrote:
Maxrebo wrote:
Oh sure,what I was saying was that I can't stand the those who are intorerlant because of someones race,religion,ethnic background,gender,sexual preference and now whether or not some has autism or aspergers. I am afraid that in the future that you would go to a resturant and I would have to leave because it was a no aspies establishment. Is it just me but do you think its becoming a trend to say your kid as a form of autism and using bizare methods to try fix them like a diet but thats not gonna fix a brain problem. Its the modern age version of snake oil. I hope this helps ungarble my old post.
Thank you.
I think Autism is what ADD was about ten years ago. ADD was supposed to be an epidemic that needed to be stopped and it seemed like everyone was afraid their child was ADD.
I think a lot of it will pass.
I too think a lot of it will pass... maybe ... only not if those of us who have a voice don't say something. Of that eventuality, I am not convinced.
The number of kids being given ritalin although they are NOT ADD is sad.
It's stuff like that which scares me. Not for me, but for all those kids who will be diagnosed as aspies but who don't NEED chelation therapies and GFCF diets.
you know?
How would you describe chelation therapies?
I would describe them as overkill, not to mention exceedingly dangerous UNLESS the patient was actually diagnosed with heavy metal poisoning.
To tell you the truth, aside from administering a treatment to someone to remove heavy metals from their system I wouldn't go there, I don't know much more than that, other than the fact that some people seem to think that it's a valid treatment to give to autistics and that people have died from it.
Do I have a misunderstanding of it that I'm not aware of??
Tetraquartz
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:40 pm
Post subject:
morning_after wrote:
I've had people like that tell me that if I had enough faith in Jesus, he would heal me of Asperger's.
I don't understand why you keep referring to Christian issues, here. Shouldn't that be in religious-philosophical discussion section?
Quote:
Now how do you heal someone of what is just a different way of thinking and interacting with the world? I wonder if they were shocked when it turned out that I didn't really want it. I don't think I spent much time with them after that.
Who was shocked?
morning_after
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:18 pm
Post subject:
Pepperfire wrote:
morning_after wrote:
Maxrebo wrote:
Oh sure,what I was saying was that I can't stand the those who are intorerlant because of someones race,religion,ethnic background,gender,sexual preference and now whether or not some has autism or aspergers. I am afraid that in the future that you would go to a resturant and I would have to leave because it was a no aspies establishment. Is it just me but do you think its becoming a trend to say your kid as a form of autism and using bizare methods to try fix them like a diet but thats not gonna fix a brain problem. Its the modern age version of snake oil. I hope this helps ungarble my old post.
Thank you.
I think Autism is what ADD was about ten years ago. ADD was supposed to be an epidemic that needed to be stopped and it seemed like everyone was afraid their child was ADD.
I think a lot of it will pass.
I too think a lot of it will pass... maybe ... only not if those of us who have a voice don't say something. Of that eventuality, I am not convinced.
The number of kids being given ritalin although they are NOT ADD is sad.
It's stuff like that which scares me. Not for me, but for all those kids who will be diagnosed as aspies but who don't NEED chelation therapies and GFCF diets.
you know?
How would you describe chelation therapies?
morning_after
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:17 pm
Post subject:
Tetraquartz wrote:
Yes! I have ADD too, and my son has moderate to severe ADHD. So, I had to listen to the lecturing on ADD on usenet, not to mention the flaming wars, and the talk shows with people saying it's all in the lifestyle, diet, etc. Rush Limbaugh once stated "There's no such thing as ADD" and I think that's rather damaging, because that means a number of parents everywhere may very well slap their kids harder and say, "Hear that? No such thing! You're just lazy!"
Then it turned into the autism discussion, flame wars, etc. and the same noises were made about diet, and other environmental triggers, only that's just a splinter off the main log.
Some people are convinced that everyone is wired the same, and if they do the same things they do, and did, then they will be like them, too.
And they call ACs self absorbed.. hmm.
I've had people like that tell me that if I had enough faith in Jesus, he would heal me of Asperger's.
Now how do you heal someone of what is just a different way of thinking and interacting with the world? I wonder if they were shocked when it turned out that I didn't really want it. I don't think I spent much time with them after that.
morning_after
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:12 pm
Post subject:
MartyMoose wrote:
morning_after wrote:
Maxrebo wrote:
Oh sure,what I was saying was that I can't stand the those who are intorerlant because of someones race,religion,ethnic background,gender,sexual preference and now whether or not some has autism or aspergers. I am afraid that in the future that you would go to a resturant and I would have to leave because it was a no aspies establishment. Is it just me but do you think its becoming a trend to say your kid as a form of autism and using bizare methods to try fix them like a diet but thats not gonna fix a brain problem. Its the modern age version of snake oil. I hope this helps ungarble my old post.
Thank you.
I think Autism is what ADD was about ten years ago. ADD was supposed to be an epidemic that needed to be stopped and it seemed like everyone was afraid their child was ADD.
I think a lot of it will pass.
I have Aspergers and ADHD
And I[m not doubting that you do, but I remember when ADD was as popular a diagnosis as Autism is now and people were just as scared of it.
Pepperfire
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:31 pm
Post subject:
morning_after wrote:
Maxrebo wrote:
Oh sure,what I was saying was that I can't stand the those who are intorerlant because of someones race,religion,ethnic background,gender,sexual preference and now whether or not some has autism or aspergers. I am afraid that in the future that you would go to a resturant and I would have to leave because it was a no aspies establishment. Is it just me but do you think its becoming a trend to say your kid as a form of autism and using bizare methods to try fix them like a diet but thats not gonna fix a brain problem. Its the modern age version of snake oil. I hope this helps ungarble my old post.
Thank you.
I think Autism is what ADD was about ten years ago. ADD was supposed to be an epidemic that needed to be stopped and it seemed like everyone was afraid their child was ADD.
I think a lot of it will pass.
I too think a lot of it will pass... maybe ... only not if those of us who have a voice don't say something. Of that eventuality, I am not convinced.
The number of kids being given ritalin although they are NOT ADD is sad.
It's stuff like that which scares me. Not for me, but for all those kids who will be diagnosed as aspies but who don't NEED chelation therapies and GFCF diets.
you know?
Tetraquartz
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:45 pm
Post subject:
Yes! I have ADD too, and my son has moderate to severe ADHD. So, I had to listen to the lecturing on ADD on usenet, not to mention the flaming wars, and the talk shows with people saying it's all in the lifestyle, diet, etc. Rush Limbaugh once stated "There's no such thing as ADD" and I think that's rather damaging, because that means a number of parents everywhere may very well slap their kids harder and say, "Hear that? No such thing! You're just lazy!"
Then it turned into the autism discussion, flame wars, etc. and the same noises were made about diet, and other environmental triggers, only that's just a splinter off the main log.
Some people are convinced that everyone is wired the same, and if they do the same things they do, and did, then they will be like them, too.
And they call ACs self absorbed.. hmm.
MartyMoose
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:23 pm
Post subject:
morning_after wrote:
Maxrebo wrote:
Oh sure,what I was saying was that I can't stand the those who are intorerlant because of someones race,religion,ethnic background,gender,sexual preference and now whether or not some has autism or aspergers. I am afraid that in the future that you would go to a resturant and I would have to leave because it was a no aspies establishment. Is it just me but do you think its becoming a trend to say your kid as a form of autism and using bizare methods to try fix them like a diet but thats not gonna fix a brain problem. Its the modern age version of snake oil. I hope this helps ungarble my old post.
Thank you.
I think Autism is what ADD was about ten years ago. ADD was supposed to be an epidemic that needed to be stopped and it seemed like everyone was afraid their child was ADD.
I think a lot of it will pass.
I have Aspergers and ADHD
JohnnyCarcinogen
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:08 pm
Post subject: Re: Jenna McCarthy was on CNN last night.
TLPG wrote:
JohnnyCarcinogen wrote:
morning_after wrote:
She was convinced that vaccines caused autism, saying that the CDC could eat their words when they said otherwise.
She was supposed to be talking about that, but I felt she was intolerant of anyone who didn't believe what she did. Among other things she said that her child died when he developed autism.
Is it me, or does this woman come off as rude and disrespectful? I also wondered if she could secretly be convinced she was responsible for her child's autism.
Seriously, I wanted to yell at her.
Jenny McCarthy is to autism what KFC is to chicken.
Tangent: Ohhhh I don't agree with that analogy. I love KFC!
On topic: I'm hearing that a lot of parents wanted to yell at the bitch, Morning. Jenny McCarthy is being nominated for Idiot of the Month on my website Wiki.
Sorry - I didn't mean to bag on KFC.
morning_after
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:56 pm
Post subject:
Maxrebo wrote:
Oh sure,what I was saying was that I can't stand the those who are intorerlant because of someones race,religion,ethnic background,gender,sexual preference and now whether or not some has autism or aspergers. I am afraid that in the future that you would go to a resturant and I would have to leave because it was a no aspies establishment. Is it just me but do you think its becoming a trend to say your kid as a form of autism and using bizare methods to try fix them like a diet but thats not gonna fix a brain problem. Its the modern age version of snake oil. I hope this helps ungarble my old post.
Thank you.
I think Autism is what ADD was about ten years ago. ADD was supposed to be an epidemic that needed to be stopped and it seemed like everyone was afraid their child was ADD.
I think a lot of it will pass.
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