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[quote="westernwild"][quote="DW_a_mom"]To my eyes, and I admit I am not a lawyer, but Kathleen's response is EXCELLENT. Succint, to the point, researched, direct. I have no idea how to help with all this, but I really respect her professionalism in responding. Lol, given all the hateful rhetoric I often see when I follow links, that level of professionalism is really refreshing. I can't imagine her NOT winning on this one.[/quote] Agree totally, I'm very impressed. Don't ever be certain what will happen in court, though, when you're in the legal field, it doesn't take very long to learn that you never, ever know what judges and juries are ultimately going to do.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>MsTriste</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 1:55 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'm a huge fan of neurodiversity.com and its owner, Kathleen. I first discovered her site two years ago, and was so impressed with her incredibly well-researched and well-written articles, that I was motivated to write some political letters which I actually sent (executive dysfunction difficulties notwithstanding). <br /> <br />I'm sorry to hear she's being attacked by an idiot lawyer, but I have a feeling that some good may come of it. More press will come to her site and I have a feeling she will prevail.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>dkmnow</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:11 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: My e-mail to Cliff Shoemaker</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I still haven't gotten a reply, but here is my e-mail to Shoemaker concerning my "Open Letter." <br /> <br />--- <br /> <br />To: <a href="mailto:cliff@attorneyaccess.net">cliff@attorneyaccess.net</a> <br /> <br />Subject: "I'm not a lawyer..." <br /> <br />Message: <br /> <br />"...but I play one in Vaccine Injury Theater." <br /> <br />Oh, that was your line. Sorry. <br /> <br />Heh. Well, seeing as my first weblog entry regarding <br />your pathetic "subpoena" ambush against Kathleen <br />Seidel was styled as an "open letter" of sorts, it <br />seems only fitting that you be provided with the <br />opportunity to read it: <br /> <br /><a href="http://dkmnow.wordpress.com/2008/04/04/shoemakers-witch-hunt/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="postlink" >Shoemaker's Witch-Hunt: An Open Letter</a> <br /> <br />My own punditry aside, the writing on the <br />(blogosphere) wall seems to suggest that you've <br />arrogantly stumbled into something you just don't know <br />how to handle. But don't take my word for it. Have a <br />gander at the list of links following <a href="http://holfordwatch.info/2008/04/04/kathleen-seidel-has-received-a-sub-poena-streisand-spartacus-shoemaker-they-start-with-s-and-end-the-same-way/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="postlink" >this post at <br />Holford Watch</a>. <br /> <br />Now, I'd give anything to hear what <a href="http://www.harpers.org/subjects/NoComment" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="postlink" >Scott Horton</a> might <br />have to say about all of this, but alas, he's got much <br />bigger fish to fry. Still, personally, I can't help <br />but be fascinated by what other members of your own <br />profession are saying. And the deeper I dig into the <br />legal details involved, I find, the louder I laugh. <br /> <br />And now I see that decent Americans so universally <br />regard your "subpoena" as an abomination so cravenly <br />hostile to this country's founding principles and <br />enduring values that even David Kirby and Dan Olmsted <br />are now hedging their bets. Nice work. I can't help <br />but be reminded of when George W. Bush uttered the now <br />tragicomical words, "I'm a uniter, not a divider" -- <br />and then promptly set about uniting 90% of humanity <br />_against_ himself and his administration. <br /> <br />"Know thine enemy, and know thyself, and you shall be <br />victorious." <br /> <br />Ooops! Well, I guess it's too late for that <br />particular lesson. Oh, well. Tough luck, huh? <br /> <br />Enjoy your "retirement." <br /> <br /><img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /> <br /> <br />--DKM <br /> <br />--- <br /> <br /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>dkmnow</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:52 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: i gotz ur supeena riet heer, pal!</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/dkmnow/Autism/irkatleen.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br />It was inevitable. Like spilled milk in the lunchroom. Teh kat macroes iz be teh unstoppabel forss!!! <br /> <br />WE R ALL KATLEEN NAU! ALL UR SUPEENA IZ BELONG TO US! MUAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>dkmnow</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:06 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>TLPG wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I'm putting up a blog entry on my ASD blog (it's a member of the Autism Hub) tonight on this subject.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Thanks! <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /> I'll watch for it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>TLPG</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:28 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'm putting up a blog entry on my ASD blog (it's a member of the Autism Hub) tonight on this subject. <br /> <br />But to everyone who looks at Kathy's blog entry with the quash motion - also take a look at the previous entry; <br /> <br /><a href="http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/149/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/149/</a> <br /> <br />This supoena smacks of a bruised ego, I think!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Roxas_XIII</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:42 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>dkmnow wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Hi, Dave! Great to see you here. As an old Yes / Bruford fan, when KenG pointed out your LTIA cover art, I was more than a little embarrassed that I hadn't noticed it. <br /> <br />I hope Kathleen is doing well, and not stressing out, etc., as I would be if in her position. I think the best "defense" I could muster would be to appear for depo, and just answer every question by saying "I am not, nor have I ever been, a member of the Communist Party." Then, at the very worst, I could still laugh on my way to the gallows. :-p <br /> <br />I'ma give the netertoobs another day or so to work their magic, then I'll send Shoemaker the link to my "Open Letter," along with a few other choice links and observations. Meanwhile, I'm thinking of firing off an e-mail to the NH and VA chapters of the ACLU, among others -- given the extra-outlandish "religion" bidness in item #9 that's just begging to be lambasted from-sea-to-shining-sea -- and I think I'll take a look at the Americans United site and listservs as well. I keep almost e-mailing Scott Horton, but reminding myself that, with taking on DOJ corruption and all, he's got bigger fish to fry. <br /> <br />This is a rare case in which a whole host of my pet interests/peeves seem to have converged in an unusually concrete way, so even despite my being unable to organize three words on a blank page most of the time, I'm unusually motivated in this case. <br /> <br />Now, if GSK would just pay me what they owe me for "promoting" them (Paxil Study 329, anyone?), now THAT would be something! <br /> <br /><img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Go get em.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>dkmnow</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:58 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hi, Dave! Great to see you here. As an old Yes / Bruford fan, when KenG pointed out your LTIA cover art, I was more than a little embarrassed that I hadn't noticed it. <br /> <br />I hope Kathleen is doing well, and not stressing out, etc., as I would be if in her position. I think the best "defense" I could muster would be to appear for depo, and just answer every question by saying "I am not, nor have I ever been, a member of the Communist Party." Then, at the very worst, I could still laugh on my way to the gallows. :-p <br /> <br />I'ma give the netertoobs another day or so to work their magic, then I'll send Shoemaker the link to my "Open Letter," along with a few other choice links and observations. Meanwhile, I'm thinking of firing off an e-mail to the NH and VA chapters of the ACLU, among others -- given the extra-outlandish "religion" bidness in item #9 that's just begging to be lambasted from-sea-to-shining-sea -- and I think I'll take a look at the Americans United site and listservs as well. I keep almost e-mailing Scott Horton, but reminding myself that, with taking on DOJ corruption and all, he's got bigger fish to fry. <br /> <br />This is a rare case in which a whole host of my pet interests/peeves seem to have converged in an unusually concrete way, so even despite my being unable to organize three words on a blank page most of the time, I'm unusually motivated in this case. <br /> <br />Now, if GSK would just pay me what they owe me for "promoting" them (Paxil Study 329, anyone?), now THAT would be something! <br /> <br /><img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>westernwild</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:16 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>DW_a_mom wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>westernwild wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br /> <br />Don't ever be certain what will happen in court, though, when you're in the legal field, it doesn't take very long to learn that you never, ever know what judges and juries are ultimately going to do.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Sad, but true. <br /> <br />But I'll think it's unfair based on the facts, and not just emotion, or a poorly engaged fight <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Oh, absolutely it is. And here's hoping that the judge will see that!!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>DW_a_mom</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:03 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>westernwild wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br /> <br />Don't ever be certain what will happen in court, though, when you're in the legal field, it doesn't take very long to learn that you never, ever know what judges and juries are ultimately going to do.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Sad, but true. <br /> <br />But I'll think it's unfair based on the facts, and not just emotion, or a poorly engaged fight <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>westernwild</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:43 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>DW_a_mom wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">To my eyes, and I admit I am not a lawyer, but Kathleen's response is EXCELLENT. Succint, to the point, researched, direct. I have no idea how to help with all this, but I really respect her professionalism in responding. <br /> <br />Lol, given all the hateful rhetoric I often see when I follow links, that level of professionalism is really refreshing. I can't imagine her NOT winning on this one.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Agree totally, I'm very impressed. Don't ever be certain what will happen in court, though, when you're in the legal field, it doesn't take very long to learn that you never, ever know what judges and juries are ultimately going to do.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>DaveSeidel</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:28 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>KenG wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Dave, your avatar is the cover of King Crimson's "Larks' Tongues in Aspic"! I love it! <br />(but I would prefer the title "Larks' Tongues are Aspie")</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I'm glad you recognized it! And I like your variation, too.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>DW_a_mom</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:03 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">To my eyes, and I admit I am not a lawyer, but Kathleen's response is EXCELLENT. Succint, to the point, researched, direct. I have no idea how to help with all this, but I really respect her professionalism in responding. <br /> <br />Lol, given all the hateful rhetoric I often see when I follow links, that level of professionalism is really refreshing. I can't imagine her NOT winning on this one.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>KenG</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:31 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Dave, your avatar is the cover of King Crimson's "Larks' Tongues in Aspic"! I love it! <br />(but I would prefer the title "Larks' Tongues are Aspie")</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>westernwild</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:30 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>DaveSeidel wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>alex wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">What's ridiculous is that a judge actually went along with a subpoena of Kathleen due to some sort of crackpot conspiracy theory held by the plaintiffs.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Actually, a judge was not involved. As I understand it, there are two kinds of subpoenas: court-issued and attorney-issued. The former probably has to be approved by a judge, but the latter does not. This subpoena was attorney-issued. <br /> <br />Of course, now that Kathleen has filed her motion to quash, it will be seen by a judge.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />That is quite correct. This was attorney-issued. However, attorney-issued subpoenas can, indeed, be challenged and often are, since they're too often overbroad/overreaching in their scope or just plain illegal. I can't imagine any judge in their right mind allowing this to go forward. Then again, I'm in the legal field and know firsthand that just because you're a judge doesn't mean you're in your right mind. <br /> <br />The problem the courts are having nowadays is that the law has not yet caught up to technology. IOW, the technology of the web is giving rise to all kinds of legal problems and issues where there are no specific laws regarding them and where the courts have no prior case law to rely upon in judging them.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>DaveSeidel</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:52 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>alex wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">What's ridiculous is that a judge actually went along with a subpoena of Kathleen due to some sort of crackpot conspiracy theory held by the plaintiffs.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Actually, a judge was not involved. As I understand it, there are two kinds of subpoenas: court-issued and attorney-issued. The former probably has to be approved by a judge, but the latter does not. This subpoena was attorney-issued. <br /> <br />Of course, now that Kathleen has filed her motion to quash, it will be seen by a judge.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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