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[quote="Kaleido"][quote="sartresue"]D'Aut descriptions dictionary topic Dazzling Decisive Dedicated Deep Delightful Dependable Detailed Determined Devoted Dynamic decently depicted! :D[/quote] I like that list very much :D[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pandora</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:16 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I think he knows not to vote for it but I agree, disease is the worst and the most inaccurate of the D words in describing autism. I voted for difference but think it is often a disability to some degree.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>lau</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:13 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>DiabloDave363 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">is this lik a poll for a derogatory term for autism?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />No. It is unlike such a thing. <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>DiabloDave363 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">i think they all are. im more offended by disease though.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />In that case, don't vote for it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>DiabloDave363</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:58 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">is this lik a poll for a derogatory term for autism? i think they all are. im more offended by disease though.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>traveller011212</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:22 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I like disability because by using a more neutral terms it feels like we are cheapening what we have gone through by declaring some PC term. Also, I want others to see how they themselves view AS. <br /> <br />Until society realizes that those of us with AS have a different view of the world, which is born with us and doesn't simply 'make us stronger in the end,' only shows us how tender this subject is to us. One thing I notice on this site is that people often quote popular research on autism and even some more esoteric work on AS, but few actually try to figure it out on their own. <br /> <br />Until a few years ago the only research has been by people who just want their number of publications to rise with no concern for the content. At around 2005 is when a great deal of research the disproves the previous research was released. This research centers around 'why' (the 'how to treat' and 'how to assimilate' research has been pretty good, but could use better 'why' to be more focused). <br /> <br />My personal favorite is a book that I can't find the reference to at the moment. It is written by a female councelor about Asperger's in relationships. She got some of it right, but much of it was a bit off base. She actually went so far as to say that every relationship is physically abusive.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>cinderannie</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 12:38 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I picked Distinction. After all, it isn't necessarily a bragging term. Something can be distinctly bad. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /> And I liked it better than "difference" because that's so overused. <br /> <br />Although I appreciate the honesty of those who admit the disability part of it. Sometimes it's seriously frustrating.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>jamescampbell</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:49 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Vexcalibur wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">It is a dysfunction. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">A state of not functioning normally.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />That's the first result for define:dysfunction.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />but what is normal but a fiqment of our imagnation</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>earthmonkey</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:09 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I voted disability, but it is also a difference, so ideally I would've voted for both. There are those on the spectrum who don't consider themselves disabled based upon honest perception of themselves, so difference seems more widely applicable. But, disability is particularly descriptive of the kinds of issues we face in the society at large.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>hyper_alien</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:30 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">i call it a disability caus it is.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Hector</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:50 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">debility - too serious a word for the great majority of people with an AS diagnosis <br />deviance - makes me feel like such a rebel for something I had no control over. When people refer to homosexuals as "sexual deviants" I think there's a manipulative undercurrent at work that masks the real story. Similarly with people who are born with AS, which is everyone with AS <br />difference - doesn't serve to explain what makes me different <br />disease - misleading for a few obvious reasons <br />distinction - makes it seem like I should get some award for having AS. Flattering, but not terribly honest <br />disturbance - strikes me as being the consequence of a traumatic event, which is untrue <br />deficiency/disability/disorder/dysfunction - maybe</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Lene</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:59 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I chose 'deviant' (because I like the word). If I had to add my own label, I'd make it 'delightfully deranged'... <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>kraken</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:34 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>velodog wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Kris94 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">my teacher said i was 'defective' in front of the class once. <br /> <br />I got really upset and cried later. <br /> <br />i was only 7 at the time though.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />That is a very crass way to treat a young child. My first post in this thread was the day before my Diagnosis.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /> <br />Agreed there. There's no excuse for treating any child in this fashion. Ever.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>kraken</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:33 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The World Health Organization defined disability in 1976 as, <br /> <br />“an existing difficulty in performing one or more activities which, in accordance with a person’s age, sex, and normative social role, are generally accepted as essential components of daily living, such as self-care, social relations, and economic activity" <br /> <br />I think the key phrase here is 'normative social role'. Given that part of an Asperger's diagnosis is clinically significant social impairment, I suspect that disability is the best word to use here. Asperger's is also linked to higher risk for depression and anxiety, if I am recalling correctly, which is consistent with research findings for physical disability. <br /> <br />I think it's important to keep in mind that disability is not in this context suggesting an inability to function, but rather greater difficulty in doing so that would be normatively expected. These very difficulties constitute many of the topics for discussion on this board, do they not? <br /> <br /> <br />Oh, and three cheers for sociology! <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>deathchibi</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:22 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">disease is the most wrong one. <br /> <br />and i have to find books about asperger/autism in the <br />"<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">diseases</span></span>" section in my "<span style="font-style: italic">public</span> <span style="text-decoration: underline">library</span>" and that would <br />give people the wrong ideas on us. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_mad.gif" alt="Mad" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>normally_impaired</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:50 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I never liked the words "disability" and "disorder", although I could see how at times "disability" could be used to describe Asperger's, there aren't many things I am completely unable to do as a result of it. I also have Tourette's Syndrome, and there isn't one single thing that I am completely unable to do as a result of it, so I don't call that a disability at all. <br /> <br />As for Disorder, I can't stand that term. "Dis" meaning "without", disorder means essentially the same as "Out of order", like a broken vending machine. Does AS mean that my brain is broken since it is not in order? I don't think so. <br /> <br />I also have ADD, which stands for "Attention Deficit Disorder", Attention Deficit means "without attention", or more literally "can't pay attention", so it's out of order. Essentially, the way that sounds, I would almost say that a vending machine with a broken selection button has ADD since it can't pay attention to your input and is thus out of order.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Claradoon</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:07 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I would have said 'difference' but I like 'distinction' better. It conveys a truth about Asperger's - different and good, both.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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