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[quote="Mockingbird"]I've never "got" sports either....or why people feel the need to compete all the time :roll: seems pretty meaningless to me[/quote]
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TheGreyBadger
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:19 pm
Post subject: "With a pencil and a pen, I figured it out...."
Sports is virtual warfare. Soap apera is virtual neighbors. We can't get out buddies together, sharpen our spears, and go raid the next village, so we use sports instead. Likewise we can't gossip about our neighbors because we don't know them, so we gossip about the people we do know --- celebrities, the cast of "Friends", and the soap opera characters.
cloverleaf
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:19 pm
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I don't get sports either like whats the point of running after a ball?
The only kind of sport I get is jumping and eventing, but that is just cause I like horses. I can't play sports either.
deep-techno
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:08 am
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It's just stupid. I agree with you.
A couple of quotes from 'Freaks, Geeks, and Asperger's Syndrome' (Written by Luke Jackson, age 13*):
"Q: When is an obsession not an obsession?
A: When it is about football.
How unfair is that?! It seems that our society fully accepts the fact that a lot of men and boys 'eat, sleep and breathe' football and people seem to think that if someone doesn't then they are not fully male. Stupid!"
"I am sure that if a parent went to a doctor and said tthat their teenage son wouldn't shut up about football, they would laugh and tell them that it was perfectly normal. It seems as if we all have to be the same. Why can no one see that the world just isn't like that? I would like everyone to talk about computers all day actually, but I don't expect them to and people soon tell me to shut up."
I completely agree with that. What the hell is the big deal with sport?!
*13 at the time he wrote it.
AegNuddel wrote:
I hardly understand them...I've tried to understand, but with no luck. Even after competing in a spelling bee (and making it to nationals... waaaaay back in 1997!) It was enough competition for a life time for me!
I was on a spelling bee too on TV last year!
AegNuddel
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:57 pm
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I hardly understand them...I've tried to understand, but with no luck. Even after competing in a spelling bee (and making it to nationals... waaaaay back in 1997!) It was enough competition for a life time for me!
Wergild
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:38 pm
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Swarthmore dropped football, badminton, and wrestling. :swoon:
DrizzleMan
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:29 pm
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Hmm, it seems the mirror neuron theory could explain this to an extent!
from
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Similarly, millions of fans who watch their favorite sports on television are hooked by mirror neuron activation. In someone who has never played a sport - say tennis - the mirror neurons involved in running, swaying and swinging the arms will be activated, Dr. Iacoboni said.
ilikedragons
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:47 pm
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Can you use shorter words lazlo? Its kind of boring.
Kiss_my_AS
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:07 pm
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Well, football ('soccer' for the Americans) is definitely embedded in some societies, to the extreme. Take the 'Superclasíco' (River Plate vs Boca Juniors) in Argentina, or a Galatasaray vs Fenerbahçe in Turkey for instance. Absolute warfare, which goes beyond sanity. I could name numerous examples, but then I'd busy all day. What I can say is that they're luckily, contrary to popular belief, not the majority but rather a gang of the most notorious ones stirring up stuff. But even if they're small in numbers, they remain a great pain in the butt for those who love the sport, but don't feel the need to act antisocial over it when things aren't happening the way they'd like it.
lazloholifeld
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:49 am
Post subject: sports fandom and sci-fi fandom
mikibacsi1124 wrote:
I have to agree that the attitude that some of you have about sports fans is ridiculous.
What's the difference between debating over whether one team is better than the other, and debating whether, say, Star Wars is better than Star Trek?
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And honestly, what's so wrong with being loyal to a particular team?
Yeah, maybe there's no real weight to it, but you know what? It's fun.
The difference is that the mass of people who are into Star Trek and Star Wars has not had the same effect on our society, particularly certain aspects of our society, as have the great mass of people that idolize sports. Let me give you an example. Colleges sometimes go overboard in pandering to their athletic teams, so much so that the athletic programs at those colleges have undue power over the university. For more on this, see this article:
http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/2001-03-20-game-of-life-interview.htm
Sometimes, because of this, athletes at colleges get away with things they shouldnt get away with... things ordinary students (including members of the college computer club, their drama department, or the college star trek fan club) would not get away with. For example, see this article (its a bit old, but I think what it describes goes on today as well):
http://wildcat.arizona.edu/papers/93/10/04_1_m.html
College professor Murray Sperber, who has written about the excessive power given to college sports, decribes the problem as follows:
"Every student I interviewed or who responded to my survey (over 1900) always had a story about corruption in college sports on their campus. Often they said that Joey Jock was in their chem class and he never came and a student manager took the test for him, or some similar story like that. So it seemed to me that rather than build school spirit, it built cynicism. However, when they met an actual athlete they would go gaga and often ask for an autograph. They held contrary ideas simoultaneously."
Heres the full article:
http://www.usatoday.com/community/chat/1018sperber.htm
Members of the college Star Trek or Star Wars fan club dont have this kind of power over a univesity... and the effect of Star Wars and Star Trek fandom isnt to create an unnecessary and excessive center of power on a college campus for people who do not represent the majority of the student body. College athletic programs do have this power, and unrestrained college sports fandom feeds that power.
I dont think some interest in sports is bad, if thats your thing. I dont have anything against people liking sports, if thats their interest, any more than I would have a problem with people being into Star Trek or Star Wars or anything else. But I think some consideration ought to be given that sports has embeeded itself into our society so deeply that it exerts excessive power over this society, and it makes people who play sports be "insiders" and those who dont "outsiders." In that regard, I strongly recommend this next article:
http://www.sportsjones.com/columbine.htm
mikibacsi1124
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:45 pm
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I have to agree that the attitude that some of you have about sports fans is ridiculous. What's the difference between debating over whether one team is better than the other, and debating whether, say, Star Wars is better than Star Trek? Certainly there are plenty of fans of both who stand by their favorite franchises no matter what kinds of arguments are tossed at them.
And someone said that you shouldn't be into sports if you don't play sports or something like that. Well, do you also think, say, that people shouldn't be interested in trains just because they don't work in the train industry? Same difference.
That said, I have never been that into sports, but I'm starting to wonder if it was partially just because of a preconceived notion that sports are boring. My college's football team (Rutgers) was in the Insight Bowl, and I was actually getting very into the game. Similarly, I went to a Devils hockey game, and really enjoyed myself. (I actually went with a fellow aspie, Scott, who is registered as BaseballFan on here, though he mostly lurks.) Now I'm actually probably going to be following the Devils for the rest of the season. Then again, I've always had a soft spot for hockey and for the Devils.
And honestly, what's so wrong with being loyal to a particular team? Yeah, maybe there's no real weight to it, but you know what? It's fun.
Young_fogey
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:05 pm
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I never have been interested in sports. Hated them when I was a kid when I realised I was being pressured to like them (especially because I'm male) and realised (without knowing why) I wasn't good at playing them. Now I don't hate them and sort of understand and enjoy them, as well as understand why normal people like them, but don't follow them at all.
One of the worst memories of my childhood was when I tried to play basketball to get friends and please my dad and after my team lost the championship I got blasted at home by my dad with what I now realise was an 'I hate you for having AS' speech. (I was refused help because my parents were ashamed of me - they 'didn't want the stigma'. That's a direct quote.) Got a lot of those growing up. I couldn't win! Retreat into fantasy - get in trouble for it. Try to do normal stuff - get in trouble for it. No wonder I had so many problems. It wasn't just the AS!
Normal people's obsession with sport seems ridiculous, even I dare say pathological - paying somebody millions of dollars because he can dunk a basketball.
But trying to meet the normals halfway I realise that's how they see my special interests.
My only sport now is occasionally bicycling in the city and suburbs, sometimes long distances (a marathon length over a day for example). As a former friend and mentor once pointed out to me, that is a sport!
P.S. Believe it or not basketball is a sport I now find easy to understand and can enjoy watching if I have to. Same with hockey and soccer. The one I like least is probably American football.
CockneyRebel
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:33 am
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I have a hard time, getting North American Sports. I was born in Canada, and I still have a hard time, getting Hockey, HFL/CFL Football and Baseball. I used to watch Hockey, because that's what everybody else was doing, but I don't even bother with it, anymore. A few years ago, somebody at my Clubhouse told me that a Vancouver Cannuck was sticked in the face. My response was, "Who's he?" It was embarrasing, because I live near Vancouver. I don't know what it is. I used to watch all the sports that I've mentioned, now it doesn't make sense to me.
ilikedragons
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:54 pm
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I dont mind sports.
Thagomizer
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:23 pm
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Now I'm all for physical exercise. I'd like fencing, bike riding, hiking, spelunking, and martial arts, but team sports are an enigma for me. I don't have an ounce of enthusiasm for them and absolutely do not relate to the hysteria everyone feels regarding whether or not their team wins. Who cares? Watching sports on TV or attending a game at a stadium is one of the most boring activities I can think of. Seeing people cheer loudly for their team is like watching animals hoot in a zoo. Between me and every sports lover there is an impenetrable chasm that cannot be crossed, at least during games or sports talk.
Obviously, like most of you guys, I was never good at sports during gym class, and was the target of ridicule, etc. I also think eyeenteepee also makes a good point about the connection between "social" people who relate to the group and sports fans, versus individualists aspies like us who don't understand what all the fuss is about. I wonder if an interest in sports is typically an NT or extrovert thing?
danlo
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:43 am
Post subject:
lazloholifeld wrote:
I have to respond to this comment, because its a response that is all too often what I find when someone tries to criticize sports. When somone tries to suggest that there is something negative about sports fanaticism, there is frequently not a rational response that gives respect to what the criticism was... but rather a response that just laughs in the face of the point that was intended to be made. I see this with sports much more often than with just about any other topic. One can criticize just about anything in our society: arts, music, politics, etc. etc. and thats all deemed legitimate. But criticize sports in any way, and its treated as not even to be taken seriously. I dont think thats fair.
Your response *might* have a ring of truth to it, but have you read the posts I was responding to? If they had made an objective criticism, then you might have an argument. As it is, they were all simply expressing their own made-up reasons why sport isn't worth following, as if THAT'S why they don't follow it. They weren't criticising sport at all, they were showing their inability to understand what everyone else gets out of it and pretending that the reason why is because they are superior people.
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