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[quote="Alerion42"]:oops: I wasn't really sure where to put this but since this is the health and fitness section I figgured I'd put it here. I've had off and on bladder problems since I was about 14, and it's been progrressivly getting worse. I potty trained late (I was almost 5, just barely made it to Kindergarden) and my childhood is spattered with embarassing accidents. I was wondering if this could have anything at all to do with AS. From about 8 to 14 I was preaty much ok, until I started wetting the bed on a regular basis. Sometime in highschool, I started having daytime accidents and now at 30 I preaty much have to wear protection at all times. This is something I'm fairly embarassed about, and I was wondering if it might have to do with my AS, or if anyone else has had similar problems. :oops: Any help would be greatly appreciated.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>strapshoechris</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:28 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hey, is anybody here familiar with this device? I've never seen it offered for sale in the U.S. yet, but it looks like something that might work for me when I doing contact sports which is the most frequent cause for deficating in my pants... <br /><a href="http://www.surgicalhouse.com.au/Default.aspx?et=2&ei=47&mode=browse&catID=30163&prodID=1596" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="postlink" >http://www.surgicalhouse.com.au/Default.aspx?et=2&ei=47&mode=browse&catID=30163&prodID=1596</a></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>strapshoechris</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:27 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">My mother used to brag to pepole frequently that she had me compleatly toilet trained before I turned a year old. Ten years ago I had emergency gall bladder surgery and my situation did a "180". For one thing, the loss of this organ seemed to change the way my system processed the foods I eat. I now have rapid onset of urge to deficate and have been using pull up diapers when I'm out of the house for extended periods where I may not be close to a bathroom. This never really happened pryor to losing my gall bladder. I've met others that definatly don't have AS that experienced similar problems after their procedures. As for urinary issues, I was fitted with a Foley (indwelling) catheter for a very long time following that surgery. I'm not sure if it traumatised my uretha or sphincter, but now I have the "dribbles", even when I'm dead certain I've finished voiding. Fortunatly the residual volume is small enough that I can wear a condom to catch it, so that's how I've remedied that part of the situation. Even though I often wear pull ups for the other reason, I still don't like dribbling urine in them. I can get condoms free and carry a few in my pocket and just roll on a fresh one each time I urinate. Obviously this won't work if you're a female, but there are still appliance options and a medical supply place might have some good suggestions. However getting something "invasive" like an indwelling catheter might require a prescription. Males can get an external roll on catheter and bag that fits under pants without doctor's orders though, at least in the U.S. I buy these, tape them on and wear them on roadtrips or sometimes when I go out to the bar to "tie one on", as they can hold several hundred C.C's of urine, unlike the condom which will "pop" if it gets too full. I usually buy these appliances in bulk from eBay sellers.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Fidget</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:01 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I don't think it has anything to do with AS, but that is pretty horrible...</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>history_of_psychiatry</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:03 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Are there certain things that trigger wetting incidents??</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pandora</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:19 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">For the past few years, I've had trouble with leaking if I laugh or sneeze suddenly or have a panic attack. It seems to be related to having had children. I've learned to do some exercises but think I might still need to have a small operation later on.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Shrubbie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:44 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Incontinence</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Go see a urologist (preferably female) who can help you. I don't think this problem is an AS problem but a big problem that affects millions of women. I have an overactive bladder and IC (interstial cystitus) which makes living very challenging at times. I have tried Detrol and others meds which helped me for about one year. I'm now on Sanctura which cuts down on the frequency but does nothing for the incontinence. I finally switched to a female urologist and she did more for me in the first visit than my other urologist of 2 years did. If you have IC or not you can try a diet approach. They usually have handouts which tell you to avoid certain foods for a week then try another food (caffeine is my biggest problem, next was citrus fruits) If those don't work and meds don't help you can practice Kegal exercises or go for an hour long test which measures your bladder capacity and they can look inside to see if there are any irritated 'things' in your bladder. I 'm going for that test right after Memorial Day and will probably elect to have a 'sling' put in surgically since I've had 2 kids and she noticed my uterus dropped a bit. But definitely purpose it with your gyno or a urologist who is familiar with female anatomy. <br />Good luck!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>zghost</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:25 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">As a child, I had an intense fear of bathrooms. I would pee my pants rtather than go in one. <br /> <br />As for you, have you heard of Kegel exercises? If not look it up, it would help. <br />That, and making a point to regularly use the closest bathroom, wether you think you need to or not.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>CockneyRebel</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:16 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I have to wear protection, but for a different reason. I have the other type of incontinence, like Sid.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ouinon</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:32 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I just found an article/paper about "ataxia", and related conditions, including an "apraxic" gait, ( i loathe these ugly medical terms), and ... mentioned in connection with <span style="font-style: italic">frontal lobe</span> ( as implicated in so much of AS ) disorders/impairment/damage is <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">incontinence</span></span>. <br /> <br /><a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/~dons/part_2/chapter_15.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.dartmouth.edu/~dons/part_2/chapter_15.html</a> ( about 3/4 of the way down the page, it's a short piece) <br /> <br />Don't know if is useful, but might convince your doctor that is not psychological anyway. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_question.gif" alt="Question" border="0" /> <br /> <br />PS: I'm not suggesting that you have problems with gait/walk, just that a link is made here between the frontal lobe and incontinence, and the frontal lobe is prime mover in AS. <br /> <br /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_study.gif" alt="study" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ouinon</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:50 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Alerion42 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I've actually gone through all of those stages. In Highschool I just couldn't make it to the bathroom in time, later I just wouldn't feel it until it was too late. Now, my bladder muscles just won't do what I want them to do.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Have you tried the timed voidance approach? That sounds the best if have no control/sensation/signal at all? ( going every 3 hours or so, though it would be a serious pain to have to organise <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif" alt="Confused" border="0" /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" border="0" /> ) <br /> <br />I'm really sorry; the wiki page makes recovery sound easy, at least fairly certain. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" border="0" /> What about the feedback-training to get a handle on some kind of signal for it and learn control of the muscles? <br /> <br />I am not surprised you thought it might perhaps be an AS thing seeing as poor proprioceptive system development is often an AS thing. <br /> <br /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_study.gif" alt="study" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Alerion42</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:42 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>qgambit wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Have you seen a doctor about this?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />I've seen many doctors, and been put on many medications, none had any effect. My last doctor suggested that it may be psycological. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>ouinon wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Is it because you don't feel it coming at all, or because you can't get to the toilet fast enough, ie: you feel it too late? Is it because don't know how to use the muscles to hold it in? </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I've actualy gone through all of those stages. In Highschool I just couldn't make it to the bathroom in time, later I just wouldn't feel it until it was too late. Now, my bladder muscles just won't do what I want them to do.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ouinon</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:25 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I ( aspie) sometimes wet my bed until I was about 9, and also had some massively humiliating larger scale accidents in public/social situations until I was 11. But since then not really experienced a problem. <br /> <br />My 8 year old AS son only stopped daytime nappies aged 5, and night time ones at 6. <br /> <br />Is it because you don't feel it coming at all, or because you can't get to the toilet fast enough, ie: you feel it too late? Is it because don't know how to use the muscles to hold it in? <br /> <br />It sounds like a nightmare. Sorry can't help with advice. Have you googled the problem? <br /> <br />Wikipedia has: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinary_incontinence" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinary_incontinence</a> <br /> <br />It sounds quite optimistic about the chances of treatment ( timed voidance, biofeedback, muscular exercises etc) solving the problem. <br /> <br />Good luck. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif" alt="Confused" border="0" /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>qgambit</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:14 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Have you seen a doctor about this?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Alerion42</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:10 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Problems with incontinence</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif" alt="Embarassed" border="0" /> <br />I wasn't really sure where to put this but since this is the health and fitness section I figgured I'd put it here. I've had off and on bladder problems since I was about 14, and it's been progrressivly getting worse. I potty trained late (I was almost 5, just barely made it to Kindergarden) and my childhood is spattered with embarassing accidents. I was wondering if this could have anything at all to do with AS. <br /> <br />From about 8 to 14 I was preaty much ok, until I started wetting the bed on a regular basis. Sometime in highschool, I started having daytime accidents and now at 30 I preaty much have to wear protection at all times. This is something I'm fairly embarassed about, and I was wondering if it might have to do with my AS, or if anyone else has had similar problems. <br /><img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif" alt="Embarassed" border="0" /> <br />Any help would be greatly appreciated.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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