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[quote="The_Cucumber"]My advice would be to have your parents or a neurotypical relative who understands your point of view explain the situation to them. They have begun to define you purely based on your diagnosis of autism, so nothing you say to them will have any real impact. They need to start viewing you as a human being, and the easiest way to do that is have someone they view as fully human to do it.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>makuranososhi</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:46 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: DISCRIMINATION in my school</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Kris94 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">alright... let me put this lightly... <br /> <br /><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">I</span></span> am not allowed to make decisions for myself. <br /> <br />The teachers choose my dinner for me, tell everyone that i am autistic, and so all the kids say im a 'spazz' or a 'retard' <br />Ask me if i help <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">EVERY TIME</span></span> i do work, and they dont let me be independent at all. <br /> <br />Every morning im faced with <br /> <br />'HELLO KRISTIAN!' in a voice that says 'you dont understand anything' <br /> <br />and whenever something goes wrong, I am blamed because <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">im autistic</span></span> and i probally did it! <br /> <br />I AM NOT AN IDIOT GOD DAMN IT! <br /> <br />i get higher levels/grades then everyone in my class (im in the high class) and they say i need to go to the lower class. <br /> <br />They are making my life hell! please help me!</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />My suggestion would be to write down your frustrations in a calm manner - write it several times if necessary to get the anger out. Then go to your support, the one who will help you, and take it to your teachers. It is not improper for you to make requests, or to explain your situation and the problems it creates. You're very aware and strong to bring it up to begin with; with perseverance, things will change. <br /> <br /> <br />M.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>br0wser</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:29 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I agree with the conference idea, but make SURE it's someone you can trust. <br /> <br />For some unfathomable reason, I went through the early grades at school thinking I was stupid, despite all evidence to the contrary. I was a grade ahead in reading and math, but because I didn't understand the social thing all the time, I thought I had to be stupid. My mother was my biggest advocate for me; maybe you can trust your parents well enough to help you deal with it, because if you are ASD, you're NOT stupid. <br /> <br />Hang in there.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>rmctagg09</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:02 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: DISCRIMINATION in my school</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Kris94 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">alright... let me put this lightly... <br /> <br /><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">I</span></span> am not allowed to make decisions for myself. <br /> <br />The teachers choose my dinner for me, tell everyone that i am autistic, and so all the kids say im a 'spazz' or a 'retard' <br />Ask me if i help <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">EVERY TIME</span></span> i do work, and they dont let me be independent at all. <br /> <br />Every morning im faced with <br /> <br />'HELLO KRISTIAN!' in a voice that says 'you dont understand anything' <br /> <br />and whenever something goes wrong, I am blamed because <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">im autistic</span></span> and i probally did it! <br /> <br />I AM NOT AN IDIOT GOD DAMN IT! <br /> <br />i get higher levels/grades then everyone in my class (im in the high class) and they say i need to go to the lower class. <br /> <br />They are making my life hell! please help me!</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I didn't get diagnosed until I was 15, but I always felt kind of different. For most of my childhood, I've been called retarded or mocked. That's why when I found out I didn't tell a lot of people because the NY Board of Ed loves to label people, especially minorities, and I don't want them telling me what I can and cannot do.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Gifted-Monster</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:22 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Here's a very good tip. <br /> <br />Napalm <br /> <br />AND LOTS OF IT! <br /> <br />But on a serious note, that's bullshit. It's your buisness, not theirs. Give them a "warning" shot, like a Parent-Teacher conference and then move towards legal grounds. <br /> <br />Force is the only thing many NT's appreciate so if you bring a hammer upon them, they'll scurry like roaches.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>preludeman</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:32 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: I am sorry.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I am sorry that this has happened to you. I hope you can go to your parents and sit down <br />with this teacher.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>SDFarsight</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:56 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Well that's simply unacceptable. <br /> <br />If someone speaks to you in a patronising way, you should politely yet firmly tell them something along the lines that you're not a 4-your-old and it's wrong to treat you as one. Or prehaps some writty remark, and asking "have you just walked out of the Junoir school? As you sound like a teacher from there" (or whatever the school/pre-school that is several years below you is called in your area). However, be careful not to get into a state where you're near-paranoid of people patronising you, as then you might react badly to people when they're just being genuinely nice and respectful to you <br /> <br />As for the other things, that's discrimination and simply shouldn't happen. If you feel that it is <span style="font-weight: bold">seriously effecting</span> your education and/or emotions, then you should write to or book a meeting with the Headmaster or some other important staff member that would (or should) listen to you. But don't simply walk up to them and talk about it, as it might look as if you're just moaning about something rather trivial, when infact it's quite serious; plus that staff member could be busy at the time. Though that's just my opinion.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Lil_Miss_Gloo</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:04 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">That truly is awful! Don't let them get away with it. <br />There was an Aspergers' boy at my school who received this sort of treatment. Not to the same degree, though. <br /> <br />Have you tried telling them to P*** off? I strongly recommend it. <br />But seriously, you should definately tell your parents and headteacher <br /> <br />Even telling you what to eat? Trying to force you into lower classes? That's some serious discrimination.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ihitterdal</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:57 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: DISCRIMINATION in my school</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>JerryHatake wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Bopkasen wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Kris94 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">alright... let me put this lightly... <br /> <br /><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">I</span></span> am not allowed to make decisions for myself. <br /> <br />The teachers choose my dinner for me, tell everyone that i am autistic, and so all the kids say im a 'spazz' or a 'retard' <br />Ask me if i help <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">EVERY TIME</span></span> i do work, and they dont let me be independent at all. <br /> <br />Every morning im faced with <br /> <br />'HELLO KRISTIAN!' in a voice that says 'you dont understand anything' <br /> <br />and whenever something goes wrong, I am blamed because <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">im autistic</span></span> and i probally did it! <br /> <br />I AM NOT AN IDIOT GOD DAMN IT! <br /> <br />i get higher levels/grades then everyone in my class (im in the high class) and they say i need to go to the lower class. <br /> <br />They are making my life hell! please help me!</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /> <br />Sux the Nazi NTs! Call your local ACLU and report it to them! You can sued them for that,</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Sometimes not the smartest and rational action to take.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />We wish... Then I'd have Ableton in my lap right now.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>kraken</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:59 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">A lawsuit isn't necessarily what you want, though. The main goal should be to change the behavior directed at you, Kristian. Unfortunately, the faculty at your school appear to discredit you to a large extent because of your autism. That means you need an advocate, who is both sensitive to your needs and concerns and capable of articulating these to the staff at your school. Ideally, this would include your parents. If that's not an option, you may want to investigate whether an autism advocacy organization is active where you live. Regardless, your advocate must accept your competence before he/she can effectively advocate for you.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>kleodimus</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:41 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>deep-techno wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">That's ridiculous - nobody should be allowed to be treated like that. <br /> <br />Have you told your parents? Perhaps if you collect some evidence, you could take them to court.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /> <br />listen to this guy because thats taking the ****</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Sora</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:08 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Do you have a teacher that you trust and that you know is nice? <br /> <br />Maybe you could write down what is annoying you and what you do not want teachers to do, give the letter to said teacher and later discuss it with him. The teacher may help and inform the others then. <br /> <br />Or maybe have your parents or something else talk to them about what you think of the situation at school.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Kezzstar</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:43 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">If I were you, I'd be using extreme violence. <br /> <br />But violence doesn't solve anything. <br /> <br />Talk to your parents or an NT who will help you.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Mikey-16</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:33 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: What School do you go to?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">What school do you go to? Because I go to a public school and they'd never treat me like that.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>everyxthing</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:48 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Can't you like go to a higher up person of the school this is crazy you have every right to do things on your own or try and be like stop I am not going to let you do this any more.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>The_Cucumber</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:35 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">My advice would be to have your parents or a neurotypical relative who understands your point of view explain the situation to them. They have begun to define you purely based on your diagnosis of autism, so nothing you say to them will have any real impact. They need to start viewing you as a human being, and the easiest way to do that is have someone they view as fully human to do it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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