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[quote="MathThinkerSpain"]Hi, I disagree with this lady who wrote those feelings and infos. It is like she was looking for pity for herself. In my family I got 2 sisters one NT one AS. The NT girl is living of social help with little small money, trying to survive. 8O The AS girl is living with lots of thousands € per month. :evil: Well the NT girl helped her, as child to grow in a agressive enviroment. AS girl grew quickly in a top nuclear physic scientist, not in Spain of course, as she got some International Grants. :idea: Now, she has a top job in a University and also teaches Maths. She lives in luxury Apartment, luxury life, lots of properties, and she has a friendly top model NTs male who stand her. She lives in his happy-yellow-sunshine world. I am not sure if its good for next steps of life for her, but at short-time, she is today having great time. :idea: I do not find serious but it is her choice. I disagree with krex also, we come fron a medium-low family and got Grants for studiying. :roll: I disagree also with lot of people here. Aspie girls have more chances of everything because they "closed" mind is not so closed they retain something of NTs, more than boys, and keep AS thing. It depends of environment, helps, and IQ/Intelligence/Skills. By the way I am looking for an AS girl to match, because "extreme lovely and helpful" NTs girl have already been tested, I wanted to match/test real AS girl, as I got some extra Psicological-Managing Skills, nowadays, I had not before. 1+1=:) CIAO [quote="krex"] There are women scientist and writers from 100 years ago, but I think the majority came from wealthy families that allowed them to be "excentric". Aspie females who cam from poverty were most likely going to end up doing drudge work or prostitution if they didn't have the "social graces" or dowery to attract a mate.[/quote][/quote]
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Jellybean
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:24 am
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My shrink, a balding git, told me that I couldn't have AS because I was a girl. Three years on, a professor told me that was a load of crap and diagnosed me!
BPalmer
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:42 pm
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CanyonWind
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:06 pm
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anbuend wrote:
Limitations like all-or-nothing thinking?
Nice one anbuend.
There's moments when you definitely kick ass...
...even when you're kicking mine.
br0wser
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:12 pm
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What's so sad about society today is that I can look at a woman's behavior and determine she has PTSD without being told... and knowing why she has it based on statistics.
I see it all the time.
SIXLUCY
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:20 am
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Yes true.
It is also apart of the abuse cycle. My stepdad was seriously abused by a staff member in a boys detention centre when he was a kid and while I would like to have WORLD DOMINATION and the ultimate control over people > I choose not to in that I know it is not the right thing to do.
So even though there are reasons for everything > We all have a choice.
intense
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:12 am
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SIXLUCY wrote:
I would have to agree with that. I have three sisters and I am the only one with autistic disorder and I was the only one that was seriously abused by my Mum and stepdad both physically and sexually.
I beleive I was picked on not so much becuase I was a girl but because I more was vunerable to being abused because I was different.
Yes that's allways the way with bad people, they have this knack for spotting vunerable people knowing they are less able to fight back.
SIXLUCY
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:44 am
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I would have to agree with that. I have three sisters and I am the only one with autistic disorder and I was the only one that was seriously abused by my Mum and stepdad both physically and sexually.
I beleive I was picked on not so much becuase I was a girl but because I more was vunerable to being abused because I was different.
intense
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:37 am
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In my opinion it is never a good thing to generalise about who get's an easier life, every case is different and society at large will of course influence these differences in many different ways, but I think which sex you are has very little to do with how poorly you are treated, abuse is abuse injustice is injustice and feelings are feelings.
I have met women who have had the most appalling experiences just as I've met men who have suffered just as badly no need to compare.
SIXLUCY
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:25 pm
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It depends on the indivdual but I donot beleive aspie women do it harder. Men are already more emotionally disadvantged in society irrespective of having Aspergers.
I know this for a fact because I am female on the autism spectrum > my son is male on the autism spectrum and people are alot less affectionate and more emotionally cold to him than they are me and this is not fair!
anbuend
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:04 pm
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Limitations like all-or-nothing thinking?
CanyonWind
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:33 am
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I guess I got things totally wrong here.
Somewhere or other, I got the impression that a lot of aspies, both male and female, have a lot of problems with the educational environment at all levels, problems with careers, and problems with relationships.
I sorta figured it had something to do with being an aspie, but now I know different.
If an aspie woman has problems with education, career, or relationships, it's because she's a woman.
If an aspie man has problems with education, career, or relationships, it's because he's either dumb or lazy.
I'm glad they cleared up that misunderstanding, but now that I'm enlightened I don't see any need for an aspie forum website, since nothing matters except gender and aspie men don't experience any limitations.
LadyMacbeth
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:27 pm
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Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
The part about a supportive wife magically materializing also strikes me as someone talking about competing in a system they don't know anything about.
Erm.. did you even READ the article?! She's an aspie woman; OF COURSE she doesn't know anything about the male hierarchy in the social world. All she was saying was that she often daydreamed about it.. is it wrong to dream of a better life?
MathThinkerSpain
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:11 am
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Hi,
I disagree with this lady who wrote those feelings and infos. It is like she was looking for pity for herself.
In my family I got 2 sisters one NT one AS.
The NT girl is living of social help with little small money, trying to survive.
The AS girl is living with lots of thousands € per month.
Well the NT girl helped her, as child to grow in a agressive enviroment.
AS girl grew quickly in a top nuclear physic scientist, not in Spain of course, as she got some International Grants.
Now, she has a top job in a University and also teaches Maths. She lives in luxury Apartment, luxury life, lots of properties, and she has a friendly top model NTs male who stand her. She lives in his happy-yellow-sunshine world. I am not sure if its good for next steps of life for her, but at short-time, she is today having great time.
I do not find serious but it is her choice.
I disagree with krex also, we come fron a medium-low family and got Grants for studiying.
I disagree also with lot of people here.
Aspie girls have more chances of everything because they "closed" mind is not so closed they retain something of NTs, more than boys, and keep AS thing.
It depends of environment, helps, and IQ/Intelligence/Skills.
By the way I am looking for an AS girl to match, because "extreme lovely and helpful" NTs girl have already been tested, I wanted to match/test real AS girl, as I got some extra Psicological-Managing Skills, nowadays, I had not before.
1+1=
CIAO
krex wrote:
There are women scientist and writers from 100 years ago, but I think the majority came from wealthy families that allowed them to be "excentric". Aspie females who cam from poverty were most likely going to end up doing drudge work or prostitution if they didn't have the "social graces" or dowery to attract a mate.
dongiovanni
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:04 am
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Just putting this out there:
Aspie women probably do have it harder. Now I wonder why that could be. Could it be because
all women
have it harder? Seriously, we talk about aspie male vs. aspie female, but we never incorporate any male vs. any female. How many aspie women do you think are in abusive relationships? How about the fact that women generally get paid less. I'd hate to just point out the pink elephant in the living room, but don't you guys think that patriarchy might play into this to some extent?
pbcoll
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:25 pm
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Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
pbcoll wrote:
-In some fields of academia, competition is so tough that even exceptionally intelligent men with good social skills have trouble getting a long-term position. In these fields, for an aspie to succeed you'd need intelligence in the genius range.
Yeah, I just read another APS prediction about another upcoming shortage of Physicists.
I don't know what such predictions are based on, but in particle physics only the top 2% or so of people even get jobs in the field. In other fields it's not as bad but there's no shortage - the postdoc position was largely invented as a plaster for the problem of a lack of permanent positions in science. There's the joke that the competition for a post in the Max Planck Institutes is so fierce that to get a job as a postdoc you have to be a genius, to become a professor you have to be able to walk on water, and to become a director of one of the institutes, only God and Jesus Christ are qualified. In the US it's easier to get a physics job than anywhere else in the world, but it's getting harder, not easier. Most people in the developed world that study physics end up doing things that are really engineering, or work in unrelated things like the financial sector. In the Third World, most either emigrate, become schoolteachers or end up driving taxis or selling books on the streets (contrary to popular belief in the First World, much of the Third World has a surplus of skilled labour).
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