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[quote="donkey"]some people say that it is of benefit, but the adult AS i know off arent on it an dhave never tried it. im throwing it in the "i will charge you money to help your son because your anxious and want to spend money on a solution " pile. everyone wants to cure As help you treat AS and charge you for it.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>DeaconBlues</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:01 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">You've "read somewhere" that GF/CF diets are "recommended" for autistics/aspies because that's another agenda being pushed - a significant minority of those of us on the spectrum also happen to have some degree of Celiac Disease, and will find some relief from those symptoms by removing gluten and casein from their diets. Since Celiac is notoriously hard to diagnose (positive diagnosis requires a biopsy of the intestines), and since so much of autism "research" is anecdotal, many of the parents of those finding such relief will a) attribute the negative reactions from Celiac to autism, and b) proclaim that the diet miraculously "cured" their child's autism. <br /> <br />If you have Celiac, by all means, pursue a GF/CF lifestyle. It's done wonders for my mother. My profoundly autistic sister, who lives with her and therefore shares the lifestyle, has experienced no such changes, however - <span style="font-style: italic">caveat emptor</span> and all that. <br /> <br />And good gluten-free bread can be made - potato bread, for instance, or rice-flour bread - you just need a good recipe.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LeKiwi</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:58 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Well, since I started doing that not a single cold, flu or any other bug has ever developed beyond the initial achiness (which is when I start to megadose), even when my entire office will be off for a week with it. Take from that what you will. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jan74</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:09 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>LeKiwi wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Mind you, if I'm coming down with something I'll take around 8g of Vitamin C a day and still don't overdose (the sign you're overdosing is you'll get uhm... loose stools). It takes a lot to overdose on VC!! So although you don't really need to unless you're fighting off a virus, megadosing won't hurt you if you decide to do it. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I don't think megadosing is necessarily risky, just more of a waste of money, with C. 1g is enough for an active person; of course if you work a physical job or are sick, you may need more than that, but I still doubt you are using that 8g and not peeing it out.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LeKiwi</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:14 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Mind you, if I'm coming down with something I'll take around 8g of Vitamin C a day and still don't overdose (the sign you're overdosing is you'll get uhm... loose stools). It takes a lot to overdose on VC!! So although you don't really need to unless you're fighting off a virus, megadosing won't hurt you if you decide to do it. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jan74</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:45 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>i_wanna_blue wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">My doc reckons that my allergy to gluten is the cause of my excessive anxiety and phobias. My adrenal glands need to restore themselves (they are worn out) being gluten free wont cause any further damage, but its overall restoration will require a reasonably lenghty duration. I read somewhere that gluten free and dairy free can be beneficial for kids with AS? Are aspies biologicaly prone to being allergic to gluten??????? Or is it for some other reason??? Only expertise can answer that.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I think people in general often are sensitive to one or both of these, and lots of people with AS have anxiety. You could postulate an even larger amount of people with anxiety have sensitivities like that. So it seems like it is worth a shot. <br /> <br />Anyway, while you heal your adrenal glands, make sure you are getting vitamin C and E and enough sleep. More than the RDA for vitamin C is good, like 500mg-1g a day, but there is no need to megadose either like those people who think we need 5g a day.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>i_wanna_blue</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:48 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">My doc reckons that my allergy to gluten is the cause of my excessive anxiety and phobias. My adrenal glands need to restore themselves (they are worn out) being gluten free wont cause any further damage, but its overall restoration will require a reasonably lenghty duration. I read somewhere that gluten free and dairy free can be beneficial for kids with AS? Are aspies biologicaly prone to being allergic to gluten??????? Or is it for some other reason??? Only expertise can answer that.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>marieclaire</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:13 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">You make a good point, one I never thought of before. It kind of helps me to understand why I still have to be so careful not to over expend my energy levels. <br /> <br />However, once an allergen is removed from someone's diet, an improvement should be noticed almost immediately (I would have thought) as the immune system stops responding to the allergen. <br /> <br />I am self taught (though necessity) my knowledge probably has huge gaps in it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jan74</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:49 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">There is actually a good physiological rationale: allergies put a strain on your adrenal glands, exactly like stress and anxiety do. So if you are in any way allergic/sensitive to gluten, the symptoms of that constant allergy would be very similar to anxiety.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>marieclaire</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:22 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>i_wanna_blue wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I've been on a g-f diet for over a month now. Unfortunately my doc says i need to be on it for at least six months. I suppose the length of time is that large because any positive effects will only occur gradually. I'm in my 20's so maybe the full positive effects will take longer, afterall according to my doc i've had the wrong (unsatisfactory) diet for two plus decades. <br /> <br />The positive changes thus far include: <br />reduced anxiety, better concentration and more energy. (BUT THE CHANGES HAVE BEEN SLIGHT, NOT MIRACULOUS)</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />I would be interested to know the physiological rational for his opinion and reasoning.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jan74</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:34 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I did it for 3 months and it made no difference to me. I didn't feel any better, or have better digestion.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LeKiwi</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:28 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I think also it tends to become more apparent around our age too. I'm almost 22 and I know a few people who found out when they were 20-24 because it started to affect them more, though they say they'd been allergic for years, if not their whole life. It's a strange thing!! <br /> <br />(But you're right, I wouldn't recommend it unless you really feel the need because it's a pain in the bum trying to find gluten-free things, at least where I'm living, and when you do they're all so expensive!! <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" border="0" /> )</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>alex</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:12 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>LeKiwi wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Alex, I've found it really interesting... I don't think I'm massively allergic in any way, but I've been trying it as an experiment and as much as it's a pain in the butt because there's so much gluten in the world, I feel absolutely amazing being off it so far! <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Perhaps you are somewhat allergic then. I think it's pretty common for people to be allergic without knowing it. My roomate in college found out he was allergic to gluten for the first time in his senior year.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LeKiwi</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:10 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Alex, I've found it really interesting... I don't think I'm massively allergic in any way, but I've been trying it as an experiment and as much as it's a pain in the butt because there's so much gluten in the world, I feel absolutely amazing being off it so far! <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>alex</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:08 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I've never been allergic to gluten so I don't see any reason to to get involved in a gluten free diet.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>LeKiwi</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:06 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Well, I accidentally had a bread stick last night and I've had some of the symptoms back really badly today. So I'm not sure if that's linked or if it was something else I ate, but it says to me perhaps I'm on the right track in avoiding the stuff. Problem is it's so bloody expensive!! <br /> <br />Kacy, to answer your question... when you think he's ready and can understand it. I was told when I was 14, though my parents had known for at least a year before that. It was a bit of a shock but it's good to be able to understand you aren't just weird and crazy!!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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