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[quote="nick007"][quote="Zen"][quote="Descartes"]Looking at pictures of naked women does nothing for me. Looking at pictures of naked men, however, does. I have no interest in f***ing women, only in f***ing other men. Taking all those things into consideration, I think I can be pretty certain that I am 100% gay.[/quote] Ditto. :lol: Anyway, is it important to have a label? I say just go with the flow. You don't have to feel any pressure to define anything.[/quote] I don't worry about my label much because I believe labels are used to help explain/define certain aspect of myself. I do NOT try to conform to any label. You need to focus on understanding yourself & the label part isn't required as long as you can explain it to yourself[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>just-lou</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:12 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I approached it from a very tried and tested method - research and experimentation. I tried it on with men, women, neutral, you name it. I don't see what the fuss is about, and prefer to skip it altogether. Hence asexual.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>PixieXW</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:45 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I only began to question this earlier this year. I had always presumed I was straight but out of nowhere really I began to think perhaps I was into girls rather than boys. I will watch adverts and films and stuff and find myself watching the girls and I never really say a boy is hot or whatever but I don't think it's that straight forward. The images of a boy and girl together kind of interest me but I think i generally watch the girl. Someone mentioned something about the way I draw, I find female bodies much easier to draw than male ones. But on the other hand from the obvious one of my friends thinks I had a crush on a boy related to one of my interests and when I was in a play I couldn't put this neck thingy on so one of the boys I'd been speaking to, he was a friend of the girl I was there with, put it on me and my heart sort of fluttered. <br />I also hate the idea of being in a relationship with a girl, I don't know if this is to do with my sexuality or just fear at being that person. I also relate better to the male characters in my stories than the female ones, whether this is because he is more like me or not I doń know. I was always very Girly when I was little but now I'm not sure. I dont like wearing make-up but I never have and I don't own very many dresses. When I started high school I desperatly tried to look pretty and I think my main point is that I've given up on that side of me. I am very self Concious. <br />If anyone has any explinations/help for me then I'd love to hear it !!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Thom_Fuleri</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:44 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>YippySkippy wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">In college, I looked at a PlayGirl with a bunch of other girls. We were all totally turned off by it, and I'm pretty sure most of us weren't lesbians. I think women just don't enjoy looking at guys' bits the same way guys enjoy looking at women's. <br />Sorry guys - your junk is gross. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />As a gay man, I actually agree. My favourite description of male genitalia is from Red Dwarf - "the last chicken in the shop look". I appreciate a nice body but prefer guys to keep their pants on unless something is actually going to happen.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>YippySkippy</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:32 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">In college, I looked at a PlayGirl with a bunch of other girls. We were all totally turned off by it, and I'm pretty sure most of us weren't lesbians. I think women just don't enjoy looking at guys' bits the same way guys enjoy looking at women's. <br />Sorry guys - your junk is gross. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Mayel</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:18 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>IdahoRose wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />My own fantasies are complicated. I sometimes have romantic fantasies about having a boyfriend or husband, or daydreams about my favorite fictional male characters being in romantic relationships with one another (known as "yaoi" or "slash"). But I dislike the thought of having sex with a man, and any daydreams about favorite fictional male characters always wind up fading to black. I used to think it was just because I was afraid of men either due to my religion or my own insecurities about my body, or even a fear of getting impregnated. <br /> <br />But there is evidence to suggest that I just don't find men sexually appealing. The adult stuff I look at online is centered around other women, either by themselves or with each other. Whenever I'm scrolling through a gallery and see a man's privates, my level of arousal gets knocked down a few pegs. One time a friend of mine bought me a penis-shaped vibrator as a gift, and at first I felt like gagging every time I looked at it. Sometimes I have daydreams about my favorite fictional female characters, and they tend to be much more sexual in nature than my daydreams about male characters. Sometimes I like to imagine myself as the object of affection for my favorite fictional female characters, something I never imagine with male characters. </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />My experience is very similar to the one above. <br />I sometimes do have romantic fantasies about having a boyfriend or husband but never in a sexual way. I've only fallen in love 2 times and both persons were guys but I didn't feel sexually or physically attracted to them in any way. One of them was aesthetically pleasing but that was that. I don't think I would like to be with a man in a sexual way. Romantically, emotionally and intellectually...very much so. <br /> <br />But, on the other hand,...if I ever look at adult stuff (which I rarely do) it's about women. They can be aesthetically and physically interesting to me. Much more so than men ;although I appreciate certain aesthetics in men, too...just not the genital parts whereas with women that's not a problem at all. I don't think I would like to be with a women either, though...sexually (but if I had to decide between men and women in this area, I'd choose women). And I know I've never fallen for a girl, I've never thought "what a beautiful mind, intresting person...", never thought of them romantically. <br /> <br />Further,...many people have thought of me as a lesbian or at least bi (straight, too but most people assume that about other people first, anyway). I've even had some women hit on me...I don't blame those people since I do like to look tomboyish a lot (sometimes I also wear a bit more femenine things, and if I wear a dress I always feel like I'm dressing up as someone else) and I'm a bit masculine in my mannerism at times. I'm kind of ambiguous gender-wise (there are times where I can and do want to look a bit femenine but most of the time I don't make that effort). <br />And... I know a thing or two about LGBT culture (more about the L though), more than the average person does...so I see why people would think of me like that. <br /> <br />I've come to the conclusion that I'm asexual and definitely (at least) romantically attracted to men. All the other things are very unclear and foggy to me. And as some people say "sexuality is fluid" so I would say, if I ever happen to actually turn out to be more like this or that.....it's okay. <br />But sometimes I wish I'd be more clear cut-on this like many other people seem to be.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>TheHouseholdCat</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:59 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>jcanico wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I dont try to find a label for myself. There isnt one that fits. <br /> <br />I'm happy with not haveing a sterotypical label but i know it causes problems for other people who want to fit me <br />into a sterotypical box about my sexuality. <br />I dont try to force my sexuality to conform to rules. <br />It would be nice if people could accept me as i am but then we'd be in a perfect world and the worlds not perfect.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />I know how you feel. <br /> <br />I never identified with a label, maybe that's my problem. ^^ <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>pinkbowtiepumps wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">This is all interesting, I love reading what people have to say. <br /> <br />Kittylover, your instance is a perfect example of how things can change. I do think sexuality is fluid and changes over time, which is why I'm hesitant to put a label on myself. But I feel like figuring out what I'm interested in will make things a lot easier. <br /> <br />I think I may be asexual because I feel indifferent to images of reproductive parts, both male and female, as in, not turned on at all. I'd rather cuddle and kiss than have sex - be silly, and be in good company. <br /> <br />The thing is, would this still make me asexual? Aaaah this is all so tricky. I wish people could just exist and live without feeling the need to classify everything. :/</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />This kind of confusion is the reason why I wouldn't label myself as "asexual", even though it's a lot about how I have spent the last 23 years of my life. Relationships to me mostly feel like an obligation (you know, like getting married, having children, buying a car and a house) rather than something I'd desire personally.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>CrazyCatLord</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:09 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: How do you feel certain about your sexuality?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>NoamEtedgy wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>CrazyCatLord wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>pinkbowtiepumps wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Just asking: is there a definite feeling, or are you always wondering despite finding a label for yourself?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">But I still call myself bisexual or polysexual, because the sexual attraction is undeniably there.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Just a question, what's polysexual? Never heard of that before.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Polysexuals are not only attracted to people who fall into the two binary gender categories, but also to people who are somewhere between the sexes or have traits of both sexes (such as transgenders or androgynes). <br /> <br />Many people use the term "omnisexual" instead, but omni literally means "all". I don't think anybody is sexually attracted to all people regardless of attractiveness or age. Poly means "many", which makes more sense in this case, imho. <br /> <br />PS: Polysexuality does not always include bisexuality. Some polysexuals are attracted to biological women, M2F transgenders and feminine male crossdressers, but not to men who look, dress and act according to the male gender stereotype.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>NoamEtedgy</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:39 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: How do you feel certain about your sexuality?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>CrazyCatLord wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>pinkbowtiepumps wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Just asking: is there a definite feeling, or are you always wondering despite finding a label for yourself?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">But I still call myself bisexual or polysexual, because the sexual attraction is undeniably there.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Just a question, what's polysexual? Never heard of that before.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>CrazyCatLord</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:09 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: How do you feel certain about your sexuality?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>pinkbowtiepumps wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Just asking: is there a definite feeling, or are you always wondering despite finding a label for yourself?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />As far as sexual attraction goes, it is a definite feeling for me. I'm absolutely sure that I feel attracted to many women (nobody feels attracted to <span style="font-style: italic">all</span> people of a particular sex, which makes statements like "I'm into women" a bit silly), some men, and many transgender and androgynous people. <br /> <br />But sexual attraction does not always translate well into practice. In my sexual encounters with other men, I've found that male scents and things like body hair are a huge turn-off for me. It was still exciting enough, but it was a very mixed experience. As far as scents, voices and body language are concerned, I'm far more attracted to women. I suppose that I was born heterosexual and developed a fetish for some male anatomical traits later on. But I still call myself bisexual or polysexual, because the sexual attraction is undeniably there.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>NoamEtedgy</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:32 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Well, I think I'm somewhat bisexual, but I'm pretty indecisive about it - like, I can sometimes really want to have sex with males, and at times really want to have sex with females. It varies greatly for me.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Catamount</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:20 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'm quite certain about my bisexuality and it dates back to when I was about 18. Through my adult life, I have gone through periods of trying to repress my gay side as well as times of feeling more gay than straight. It's not necessarily confusing, but it has always been a source of great inner turmoil. Even now, with a rewarding and successful long-term straight marriage to an amazing and highly attractive woman, I have to <span style="font-style: italic">deal</span> with my attraction to men on a daily basis. At the moment, my gay feelings are quite intense and yet I know pursuing those feelings aren't an acceptable option within the structure of my life. Over the last couple of years, I have gotten better at being honest with myself about my bisexuality and have found that talking or writing about it is very good for my overall mental health. So yeah, bi is what I am. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>UnLoser</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:07 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Oddly enough, I was pretty completely bisexual before I hit puberty, but after puberty, I started leaning towards girls more and more. I don't know if it was society that did it, or hormones, or what. Now I'm mostly straight, but I can appreciate the looks of some of the more feminine looking guys.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>UnLoser</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:03 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>pinkbowtiepumps wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I think I may be asexual because I feel indifferent to images of reproductive parts, both male and female, as in, not turned on at all. I'd rather cuddle and kiss than have sex - be silly, and be in good company.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I'm the same way. That doesn't make you asexual. People are innately attracted to people, not to their reproductive organs. If you were to show a straight person who had never seen the reproductive organs of the opposite sex before a picture showing just those said parts, and no other surrounding parts of the body, most would not be turned on. <br /> <br />What matters is whether or not you're physically attracted to people, not whether you want to have sex with them.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Joker</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:37 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I feel very certin about in fact you will find that Bigender men and women are a very small minority in the LGBT community and that most of us are viewed as being transgendered I have been bigender since I turned 21 that's when I knew that I was.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>puddingmouse</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:47 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>IdahoRose wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I <br />Everyone I know thinks I'm madly in love with the actor Johnny Depp due to my all-consuming obsession with the characters he portrays in certain movies, but the truth is, I have never really thought of him in a sexual way. I just really love the way he uses his skills as an actor to make his characters sympathetic and appealing. Sometimes I wonder if my adoration of Depp is like a gender-flipped equivalent of some gay men's adoration of women like Judy Garland or Madonna.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I've on and off had special interests in male rockstars, but not in a sexual way. I see it as a gender-flipped version of gay icons like Judy Garland and Madonna. One of the rockstars I liked for a while was Morrissey, and he already sort of is a lesbian icon. I also got obsessed with Ray Davies and Lou Reed, but it was more in a wanting to be like them way. I'm actually sort of embarrassed by it because people might think I fancy them. I can identify with that a lot. <br /> <br />The one I'm most embarrassed by is the Pete Townshend obsession I had a few years back (which was even after the kiddie porn scandal). <br /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif" alt="Embarassed" border="0" /> It was really about his intelligence and songwriting but people thought I liked perverted old men. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <br /> <br />I mean, I do like men sexually (but not as much as I like women). I don't have a thing for 60s rock stars. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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