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[quote="Zexion"]I had quite strong magical thinking as a child and still have it mildly these days.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Invader</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:47 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Almost every NT that I have ever met has had magical thinking. <br /> <br />They always believe that correlation is inextricably linked to causation. Even those who are supposed to be scientists and doctors. <br /> <br />A good example: Several years ago, in my early twenties, I was told by a couple of doctors that I could not have autism, because it is usually diagnosed in children. The reason that I was never diagnosed as a child was because I did not have a responsible parent or guardian who would recognise a problem and care enough to attempt to have it treated, and I was simply punished, neglected and abused for being a weird little bastard, instead. <br /> <br />It did not occur to these people that a child who was not <span style="font-style: italic">taken to a doctor</span> could not possibly be diagnosed as a child. It did not occur to them that a neglected and undiagnosed child could possibly grow into an adult who continued to suffer from their undiagnosed disorder. As far as these people were concerned, their books told them that it was almost always diagnosed in children, and as I was clearly not a child, it was practically impossible for me to have autism. <br /> <br />As far as they were concerned, being diagnosed as a child is what makes a person have autism. It is nothing to do with the structure or functioning of their brain, it has nothing to do with the symptoms that they exhibit, it is <span style="font-style: italic">solely</span> down to being diagnosed as a child, and no amount of logical reasoning has the power to change this magical fact. Not unless one of their shamanic High Priests gave them a new magical book which told them that the evil spirit known as autism had magically evolved into a demon which affects adults too. <br /> <br /> The existence of adults with autism, who <span style="font-style: italic">were</span> diagnosed as children, and grew up to still have it, must have been absolutely mystifying for these people. <br /> <br />I find that by far the most common form of magical thinking, is the belief in the validity of doing things just because "they have always been done that way", even though the person has no idea WHY it is done. I'm sure everyone here knows what that is like. People doing things simply because everyone does them, rather than doing things for a legitimate reason which the participants actually know and understand. Many people have no idea why they need to dress a certain way, like wearing a tie, or why they need to eat dinner before dessert, or ask people how they're doing while knowing that neither one of them really cares. <br /> <br />They generally do not think using any kind of actual reasoning, and simply feel that the validity of a belief comes from the number of people who believe in it, and how convenient it is to agree, rather than its validity coming from how much sense it actually makes when you analyse it closely.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Bun</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:11 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I was told it's still magical thinking, but with a negative bias. <br /> <br />re: the quote, I've known it for years, it used to be part of an article online, but i've searched it before I added it to my sig, and all I've found was the quote. :/ It was someone's semi-poetic rambles about 'indie', as expected.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>HighPlateau</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:23 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Bun wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I have reverse magical thinking, I think that if I want something, it'll never happen. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Yeah, I have that one too. :/ Is it still reverse magical thinking if you think the madly good thing will happen but, reliably, it doesn't? <br /> <br />I got this off your signature and think it is fantastic! I'm hoping you will tell me if this is a quote from somewhere else, or original with you: <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">'Indie kid' is just another word for outcast, an emotional f**k up, lonely, scared, but madly arrogant Motherf***er. The young Oscar Wilde was an indie kid and so was Jesus, before he turned into f***ing Bono.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Thanks.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Bun</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:47 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Great diagram. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Phonic</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:11 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Explain magical thinking from someone with it?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>liveandletdie wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Ok so the psychs always ask me if i have magical thinking. Do i think the tv is watching me etc..... <br /> <br />So i believe the wording on that is completely stupid, and most schizo scale people do not think the tv is watching them though some do probably. <br /> <br />Anyways...from someone who might have "magical thinking" can you give some examples of such from your own perspective?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />magical thinking <br /> <br /><img src="http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-04-01/1238544137729.jpg" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>namaste</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:25 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I have been into tarot, astrology and spirituality from a longtime now. <br />I truly believe in magical thinkings, prayers, faith and miracles <br />There have been innumerable miracles in my life</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>NeantHumain</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:12 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><span style="font-weight: bold">Everyone</span> engages in magical thinking, to an extent; it's not limited to psychotics. Magical thinking is, more or less, irrational thinking: coming to conclusions that cannot be deducted from the premises or held with a high degree of probability, given the evidence at hand.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>jesseiNhD</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:28 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Aimless wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I had some magical thinking rituals when I was in elementary school. I'd repeat certain words in a certain pattern in my head to relieve anxiety. I had the idea if I did this I would do well on a test.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />I do this too. Except my pattern is more adhering to a hymn, and i use it to alleviate anxiety and prevent thoughts from being exposed to others there is feeling of vulnerability. Despite the irrationality, it never fails to alleviate anxiety, although commonly only temporarily.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Bun</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:01 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Interesting. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>CrazyCatLord</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:59 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Bun wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Or crooks. Or invented by other people who were the true founders of the religion. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Prof. Robert Sapolsky has very interesting hypotheses on the origin of religion and the perpetuation of conditions like schizophrenia and OCD through religious structures. This also relates to magical thinking: <br /> <br /><object width="660" height="405"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/LNSe4Ff57n4"></param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/LNSe4Ff57n4&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6&border=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="660" height="405"></embed></object><br /><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=LNSe4Ff57n4&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6&border=0" target="_blank"></a><br /> <br /> <br /><object width="660" height="405"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/U8GFQRAlDmE"></param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/U8GFQRAlDmE&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6&border=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="660" height="405"></embed></object><br /><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=U8GFQRAlDmE&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6&border=0" target="_blank"></a><br /> <br /> <br />Basically, the shamans in hunter-gatherer tribes were schizotypal or schizophrenic, which allowed them to "hear" the voices of ancestral spirits or gods, or whatever they came up with. Schizophrenic traits have been confirmed in the shamans of extant hunter-gatherer cultures. Their high social status gave them reproductive opportunities which kept this trait / disorder alive until today. <br /> <br />As religion became more complex, OCD traits were selected for as well. Food preparation rituals, ritual washings, ultimately religious dogma and ritual in its entirety is very obsessive-compulsive. Martin Luther, the founder of Protestantism, suffered from OCD. He wrote that no matter how often he would wash his hands, they would never feel clean and he just couldn't stop. He was also known to engage in obsessive confessing during his time as a Catholic monk. Founding a new Christian Church with all-new rituals must have come natural to someone like him. <br /> <br />Sapolsky also mentions temporal lobe epilepsy, which often goes hand in hand with obsessive religious writing. It's quite interesting how people with neurological disorders, instead of being marginalized or socially ostracized as it often happens today, managed to establish a societal niche for themselves in the past by basically turning everyone else crazy <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /> Of course there were probably also crooks who came up with new brands of religion for their own personal gain. After all, it's a great way to make a living without doing any real work.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Moog</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:53 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Bun wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">It reminds me of: “I am a kind of paranoiac in reverse. I suspect people of plotting to make me happy.” - J. D. Salinger</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Exactamundo</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Moog</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:46 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"><a href="http://www.freewillastrology.com/beauty/pronoia.therapy.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.freewillastrology.com/beauty/pronoia.therapy.html</a></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Bun</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:44 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Moog wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Bun wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I have reverse magical thinking, I think that if I want something, it'll never happen. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />That's not reverse magical thinking, it's just negatively biased magical thinking.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Ah, I was sure I don't have a name for what I said. Thank you for the correction. <br /> <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I went through a pronoia phase at one time, which is kinda the opposite of what you're talking about. <br /> <br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronoia_%28psychology%29" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronoia_%28psychology%29</a></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />It reminds me of: “I am a kind of paranoiac in reverse. I suspect people of plotting to make me happy.” - J. D. Salinger</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Sweetleaf</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:34 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">hmm this is one of those thing's I've given some thought to....based on what I know of magical thinking from various sources, I know I could certainly come off as having it. Since I do have some rather unusual beliefs/ideas about things however most of the things about me that could be labeled as such are real to me........so yeah can't say for sure if I have any examples of magical thinking that are actually magical thinking but heres a couple that where real to me. <br /> <br />1. I got on a bus, a couple stops later I got a very horrible feeling when a couple people got on the bus...and after a while I felt like it was coming from them specifically. Turns out they where jehovas witnesses or mormons can't remember which. But as soon as I could I got off the bus because it literally felt like they where screwing around with some spiritual crap and directing it at me and at the time I believed I had a couple guardian spirits that more or less protected me from that. <br /> <br />2. I am still more or less convinced I've had dreams about things before they happen, like major things. <br /> <br />so as far as I know things like that could fall under magical thinking, but I am not sure if I feel that explains those things.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Moog</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:32 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Bun wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I have reverse magical thinking, I think that if I want something, it'll never happen. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />That's not reverse magical thinking, it's just negatively biased magical thinking. <br /> <br />I went through a pronoia phase at one time, which is kinda the opposite of what you're talking about. <br /> <br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronoia_%28psychology%29" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronoia_%28psychology%29</a></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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