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[quote="PersephoneX"]I'm so touched, you understand me perfectly. Thank you, you are wonderful! I'm sure I wouldn't take away my genitals, it's the rational me that says it would bring much more disadvantages than release. in the end I would only feel maimed... I'm so twisted!! I'm afraid of closeness, I'm always distanced, behave "superior" and want to give others the feeling that I am above, I'm joking around, tease others and say things which should do nothing but prove my brilliance. Most of the people who know me and get to know me are fascinated and respect me very much but nobody seems to actually feel a personal closeness to me, probably nobody could imagine me as a soulmate. And the girls/women that found the confidence to become somehow close to me meant nothing to me. I became sadistical and threated them as if they where air while even feeling some kind of satisfaction when they were sad because of me. I'm so sorry for being so ignorant... and when anybody talked about sex I felt cloyed... I think it has become better in the last year though... but one reason that makes me detest sex is maybe that I don't only feel arousal from women to whom I feel a little closer but also some kind of... I don't know, I began to understand it better in the last two years, I found that I'm not really looking for a "partner" in the original sense, I'm not looking for a sexual partner (though I've of course got a regular sexual drive), an equivalent woman, but for some kind of mother character, I've always had this ideal that has also appeared me once in a dream, a bright and soft female deity that takes me in her arms and that I take in my arms that cares for me, that is some kind of guardian angel for me. And I've never found that in any girl or woman. My own mother is insane (I consider her as insane) and I stopped respecting her and feeling close to her when I was about 9 or 10. probably that's the reason. It's beautiful that you seem to have felt this when you read my previous message I mean, I don't really want a surrogate mother, I of course want something real. But I'm longing for a relationship of another level, where she's always with me and always watching over me. Where we are always a team with the same intentions. Like it seemed to be with John Lennon and Yoko Ono^^ Maybe I would be released if I would find a woman like this. Or if she would find me. ((( Hugs back to you))) Dear Awes, You missed feeling nurtured by your mother and in fact, in a very close relationship with a woman, you would have this to some degree. I have read some of your other posts. You deeply want to love and be loved. You avoid eye contact for fear that you would want to reach and hug that person, I think it's beautiful...but you fear it, maybe because of your programming that you must always keep up a facade to feel safe and superior. Making those girls feel sad about you made you feel more powerful and safe. You are really loving inside but you have become fearful of attachment and intimacy. I think you work so hard at seeming superior that maybe you panic when you feel that your defenses are being let down and that has to do with sex and TRUE emotional intimacy. I do believe that it does have something to do with your relationship with your mother. I did not have such nice parents either and my advice is to start allowing your inner dialogue...your self talk be the voice of the kind parent you wish you had and not of the insane mother that you grew up with. You will find it easier to manifest that within relationships if you have it in the first place. You are right that if you had it, it will release you, but, you can also release yourself so that you can stop pushing those brave girls away so you can have it in reality. Free your mind! Maybe you are afraid of actually having sex in some way. Maybe it has to do with your unloving self image. I actually believe that sex would change that image. Then there is...Many men are afraid of performing sexually. Here is where I am glad to be a woman. Woman aren't expected to have or maintain an erection, don't have to be expected to know how to do everything etc. If you are with the right person, you will have a lot of chances to learn and get over any fears. I don't want to give unwarranted or unwanted advice, so I will stop here.[/quote]
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PersephoneX
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:47 am
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This is Project Pitchfork live in Taubertal. The "singer" is Peter Spilles. This is not the best version of this song at all, but, he is an artist and I respect his art and the message he was trying to send when he bravely made this video. The premise is a little off, but I don't want to ruin in for you by telling you what I mean.
craiglll
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:01 pm
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You should let you doctor know that you didn't take your meds. Also the drastic changes in your life when you do/don't take them. It does sound like our script is written for too much of the drug or possibly an interaction with other drugs also?
awes
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:38 am
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PersephoneX wrote:
awes wrote:
That sounds pretty useful. I'm 18 years old.
And much more, since from the beginning I did feel that the weakness came from my blood.
This stabbing something into my heart thing is only caused by my medicine, it would leave once I stop taking it. Don't be scared. It feels like some kind of cramp that I want to release again.
I don't know why I'm so open, somehow I rarely ever lie. but it all sounds much more dramatical than it is. At least it didn't feel that dramatical to me.
I'm certain it all will leave again on it's own. I'm not the kind of person who is meant to be the victim of something like that. And much more, since I know what it is and since I know that it won't be eternal I wouldn't even think of ending my life.
I will live as long as I can, ideally I will live forever.
And if your theory is right I'd soon be totally fine
I will you to be well. You are right, this will diminish in strength quite a lot. You will be well. Just knowing this takes some of the inner stress. I remembered depression as a dark chasm into which I unwittingly fell and was swallowed. I didn't know how I got there, nor how I could escape. It seemed like I would battle one "criisis" after another. I could "feel" the next mental anxiety coming before I could intellectualize it. Groping around in panic, It seemed as if I was doomed to live in that space for eternity, but gradually, the light came piercing through the cracks a little at a time until what was left of the darkness was the tiny piercing that had once been the beginning of light. And this, dear Awes, was 100% biochemical. It's ALL gone.
I am glad you are open. It's one reason I prefer AS to NT. NTs can lie and deceive and contrive theatrics. We communicate on a deeper level.
This gives me much confidence for the future. It certainly is nothing but my puberty mixed with autism.
I didn't take my medicine yesterday to finally be able to sleep again, and though I wasn't able to sleep one single hour and had to fight with my heart again the whole night through because there are also side effects if I stop taking it, I feel pretty normal now. Sleepy and dizzy but quite normal^^
It's interesting how different my conscience can be. Especially when I change my medicine my sensation is extremely variable.The same thing can appear to feel totally different at different moments.
My psychiatrist said this variation of my sensation is the same for everybody else too but in contrast to the others I see the difference if it changes.
I appear to be extremely, extremely sensitive. Probably that's a big benefit for art, communication and empathysing. But somehow I'm afraid of not knowing what's the real thing.
PersephoneX
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:34 pm
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awes wrote:
That sounds pretty useful. I'm 18 years old.
And much more, since from the beginning I did feel that the weakness came from my blood.
This stabbing something into my heart thing is only caused by my medicine, it would leave once I stop taking it. Don't be scared. It feels like some kind of cramp that I want to release again.
I don't know why I'm so open, somehow I rarely ever lie. but it all sounds much more dramatical than it is. At least it didn't feel that dramatical to me.
I'm certain it all will leave again on it's own. I'm not the kind of person who is meant to be the victim of something like that. And much more, since I know what it is and since I know that it won't be eternal I wouldn't even think of ending my life.
I will live as long as I can, ideally I will live forever.
And if your theory is right I'd soon be totally fine
I will you to be well. You are right, this will diminish in strength quite a lot. You will be well. Just knowing this takes some of the inner stress. I remembered depression as a dark chasm into which I unwittingly fell and was swallowed. I didn't know how I got there, nor how I could escape. It seemed like I would battle one "criisis" after another. I could "feel" the next mental anxiety coming before I could intellectualize it. Groping around in panic, It seemed as if I was doomed to live in that space for eternity, but gradually, the light came piercing through the cracks a little at a time until what was left of the darkness was the tiny piercing that had once been the beginning of light. And this, dear Awes, was 100% biochemical. It's ALL gone.
I am glad you are open. It's one reason I prefer AS to NT. NTs can lie and deceive and contrive theatrics. We communicate on a deeper level.
awes
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:56 pm
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That sounds pretty useful. I'm 18 years old.
And much more, since from the beginning I did feel that the weakness came from my blood.
This stabbing something into my heart thing is only caused by my medicine, it would leave once I stop taking it. Don't be scared. It feels like some kind of cramp that I want to release again.
I don't know why I'm so open, somehow I rarely ever lie. but it all sounds much more dramatical than it is. At least it didn't feel that dramatical to me.
I'm certain it all will leave again on it's own. I'm not the kind of person who is meant to be the victim of something like that. And much more, since I know what it is and since I know that it won't be eternal I wouldn't even think of ending my life.
I will live as long as I can, ideally I will live forever.
And if your theory is right I'd soon be totally fine
PersephoneX
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:17 pm
Post subject:
awes wrote:
PersephoneX wrote:
Why are you on meds Awes? You can message me if you want. I am not on meds. They do not work for me and I have learned to handle my own mind. I used to have OCD and depression, but now I don't, not at all. Don't believe anyone who tells you that you can't heal your own mind.
I've a psychosis, in the last medical report it was called schizophrenia. I've been suffering from it since I've been about 13 years old, I didn't know what was wrong with me and nobody believed me when I said that I couldn't think clearly and had no energy, felt dead inside.
So suicide appeared to constantly become a better way to exit, I didn't want to live a life without success, a life where I can't win.
But when I one evening was alone at home and started to cry, in the 3rd year, I did have to call my mother and she drove me to the emergency room of the youth psychiatry. and after two weeks they gave me a place for a in-patient therapy. they gave me medicine, but this medicine made everything even worse, much worse. after 3 months I could finally establish to go home again, they said I should not continue living with my mother, and I had two diagnosises, the psychosis and the aspergers syndrome. i had no problem with the aspergers syndrome, I've lived with it my whole life through, lived good, was highly gifted and my social skills were fine, my problem was the psychosis. To be true the memories aren't that clear anymore. But I stopped taking the medicine on my own. I tried other meds but they also didn't work. And more and more I made the decision to exit. It was totally clear to me. I had finished with my life. A totally rational conclusion, nothing emotional. I decided it should be painless, the internet was a great help and I found some ways to synthesize ... however.
But while in my research about that my psychatrist gave me some antidepressivants. They ripped me out. I had energy again and though I was somehow high of it I could think better again, still totally psychotical but ... The funny thing is, that I never left the stage of having finished with my life.
I did only take them for one month, afterwards it was more or less ok for some months, when it came again heavily they gave me new medicine against the psychosis, the first one didn't work, the second one finally worked and I thought I would finally become myself again. But of course soon the medicine became weaker and when I wanted to double the dose I had this awful side effect that was a respiratory paralysis, a whole body paralysis where I couldn't even talk anymore because my tongue was paralyzed and much more it attacked my heart. Luckily, or not, I don't know how I should rate it, I called my mother (the first time for months) who lives somewhere else (I live alone now) and she instantly called the ambulance. The respiratory paralysis and heart problems have been lasting for 8 or 9 hours before I called my mother, I collapsed multiple times. And once I really felt dead. I saw it. I could smell it. while my whole body began to feel warm though it was paralysed. I stopped breathing. And there was this moment that felt like if it would have been lasting for many seconds, when there was two options, take a big breathe or fall asleep. And I really wasn't sure what to do in this moment. So I just took the breathe.
Since this moment I feel extremely intimate with death. And I feel some new kind of excitement that is focused on my heart. And often it get's that intense that the idea of stabbing something sharp into my heart excites me extremely.
but i still take the same medicine in the lower dose since without it I'm totally useless.
Really, I depend on this medicine.
This is terribly frightening. I don't think you should live alone at this time.
How old are you dear Awes and what medicine are you taking? Chances are good that if you're still a teen, this will mellow out quite a lot. I would like to explain concisely why I think this is so. ( I will try, I am getting tired as I haven't slept much)
Autistic people have supposedly 67% more neurons in their brain. Neurons require serotonin to properly function. When you start hormonal changes ( umm like at age 13 perhaps, the same age as when your problems started) the hormones start being secreted in mass quantities into your bloodstream. Sometimes the hormones have a similar structure to serotonin and they bind to the same receptors meant for the serotonin, much like a lock and a key. This interferes with the amount of receptors that are available to bind with the serotonin ( which you probably need more of anyway due to having more neurons to start with) At some point, your hormones will level out. You said that you felt weak. This supports my theory because serotonin also used to control muscles.
PersephoneX
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:57 pm
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craiglll wrote:
" sometimes it even grows to aggressions against them. "
How can you even begin to say I misread when this is the quote? It doesn't matter how old you were, you hit a girl. I thik you seem to be over reacting.
You're just being an antagonist at this point.
awes
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:08 pm
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craiglll wrote:
" sometimes it even grows to aggressions against them. "
How can you even begin to say I misread when this is the quote? It doesn't matter how old you were, you hit a girl. I thik you seem to be over reacting.
Please finally let me be! You are really evil.
craiglll
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:00 pm
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" sometimes it even grows to aggressions against them. "
How can you even begin to say I misread when this is the quote? It doesn't matter how old you were, you hit a girl. I thik you seem to be over reacting.
awes
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:59 pm
Post subject:
PersephoneX wrote:
Why are you on meds Awes? You can message me if you want. I am not on meds. They do not work for me and I have learned to handle my own mind. I used to have OCD and depression, but now I don't, not at all. Don't believe anyone who tells you that you can't heal your own mind.
I've a psychosis, in the last medical report it was called schizophrenia. I've been suffering from it since I've been about 13 years old, I didn't know what was wrong with me and nobody believed me when I said that I couldn't think clearly and had no energy, felt dead inside.
So suicide appeared to constantly become a better way to exit, I didn't want to live a life without success, a life where I can't win.
But when I one evening was alone at home and started to cry, in the 3rd year, I did have to call my mother and she drove me to the emergency room of the youth psychiatry. and after two weeks they gave me a place for a in-patient therapy. they gave me medicine, but this medicine made everything even worse, much worse. after 3 months I could finally establish to go home again, they said I should not continue living with my mother, and I had two diagnosises, the psychosis and the aspergers syndrome. i had no problem with the aspergers syndrome, I've lived with it my whole life through, lived good, was highly gifted and my social skills were fine, my problem was the psychosis. To be true the memories aren't that clear anymore. But I stopped taking the medicine on my own. I tried other meds but they also didn't work. And more and more I made the decision to exit. It was totally clear to me. I had finished with my life. A totally rational conclusion, nothing emotional. I decided it should be painless, the internet was a great help and I found some ways to synthesize ... however.
But while in my research about that my psychatrist gave me some antidepressivants. They ripped me out. I had energy again and though I was somehow high of it I could think better again, still totally psychotical but ... The funny thing is, that I never left the stage of having finished with my life.
I did only take them for one month, afterwards it was more or less ok for some months, when it came again heavily they gave me new medicine against the psychosis, the first one didn't work, the second one finally worked and I thought I would finally become myself again. But of course soon the medicine became weaker and when I wanted to double the dose I had this awful side effect that was a respiratory paralysis, a whole body paralysis where I couldn't even talk anymore because my tongue was paralyzed and much more it attacked my heart. Luckily, or not, I don't know how I should rate it, I called my mother (the first time for months) who lives somewhere else (I live alone now) and she instantly called the ambulance. The respiratory paralysis and heart problems have been lasting for 8 or 9 hours before I called my mother, I collapsed multiple times. And once I really felt dead. I saw it. I could smell it. while my whole body began to feel warm though it was paralysed. I stopped breathing. And there was this moment that felt like if it would have been lasting for many seconds, when there was two options, take a big breathe or fall asleep. And I really wasn't sure what to do in this moment. So I just took the breathe.
Since this moment I feel extremely intimate with death. And I feel some new kind of excitement that is focused on my heart. And often it get's that intense that the idea of stabbing something sharp into my heart excites me extremely.
but i still take the same medicine in the lower dose since without it I'm totally useless.
Really, I depend on this medicine.
PersephoneX
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:44 pm
Post subject:
awes wrote:
PersephoneX wrote:
Awes...This was something very brave, intimate and vulnerable to put out there for others to see. I can understand why it's so irritating to have someone read into it or not read it correctly and leave you defending yourself even against something that wasn't even the point of it. ((( Hugs ))) You're not your real self when you're being defensive.
I'm so thankful that you understand me. You understood it perfectly!
I don't want to use it as excuse but I could hardly sleep in the last week and I still can't fall asleep as a new side effect of my medicine and that probably made me testy...
but no... it's just me. I feel very uncomfortable with arguments and if I become the aim of an argument I instantly swap to the defensive mode, trying to eliminate the "enemy" as quickly and as definite as possible... you can imagine, my mind was still "writing" speculative arguments against him 30 minutes after I had sent the message, of course I did regret it a afterwards, knowing that I brought the much bigger guns to the "slaughter" that in fact wasn't even quarreling but...
I think that even matches to what we know about me, the thing about always having to appear superior, never accept weakness or to be weakened, neither by words nor by physical closeness. Barking dogs never bite... At least isn't my intention. That's why I bark potential enemies away...
I don't want to be a dog... xD But I'm so likely to be nothing but a stupid animal...
I don't enjoy confrontations either. I do not like going into that mode. (On my planet, we do not fight, we discuss things in a way that does not make others feel defensive) I have gotten better, much better and I now feel like I am fairly diplomatic. However, you were sharing something deep and somehow through someone else's misunderstanding, you were having to defend yourself against being thought of as a dangerous person. That's about as far out as it gets. I have things that I would find it hard to tell because, more than anything, if it was perceived incorrectly, it would be exactly as this situation. I think you're brave. I am amazed that you are able to be so vulnerable in contrast to your defensiveness, and that shows a lot of strength inside. I think you have good things happening in your mind, even if you are battling it out.
You're not close to being a dog. You're a self aware and honest person. ((( Hugs )))
Why are you on meds Awes? You can message me if you want. I am not on meds. They do not work for me and I have learned to handle my own mind. I used to have OCD and depression, but now I don't, not at all. Don't believe anyone who tells you that you can't heal your own mind.
awes
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:10 pm
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PersephoneX wrote:
Awes...This was something very brave, intimate and vulnerable to put out there for others to see. I can understand why it's so irritating to have someone read into it or not read it correctly and leave you defending yourself even against something that wasn't even the point of it. ((( Hugs ))) You're not your real self when you're being defensive.
I'm so thankful that you understand me. You understood it perfectly!
I don't want to use it as excuse but I could hardly sleep in the last week and I still can't fall asleep as a new side effect of my medicine and that probably made me testy...
but no... it's just me. I feel very uncomfortable with arguments and if I become the aim of an argument I instantly swap to the defensive mode, trying to eliminate the "enemy" as quickly and as definite as possible... you can imagine, my mind was still "writing" speculative arguments against him 30 minutes after I had sent the message, of course I did regret it a afterwards, knowing that I brought the much bigger guns to the "slaughter" that in fact wasn't even quarreling but...
I think that even matches to what we know about me, the thing about always having to appear superior, never accept weakness or to be weakened, neither by words nor by physical closeness. Barking dogs never bite... At least isn't my intention. That's why I bark potential enemies away...
I don't want to be a dog... xD But I'm so likely to be nothing but a stupid animal...
PersephoneX
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:14 pm
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Awes...This was something very brave, intimate and vulnerable to put out there for others to see. I can understand why it's so irritating to have someone read into it or not read it correctly and leave you defending yourself even against something that wasn't even the point of it. ((( Hugs ))) You're not your real self when you're being defensive.
awes
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:37 pm
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craiglll wrote:
Why would you hit a girl? Some of your statements make me think that maybe you just need to sit down and have a really good "discussion" with yourself.
I don't know what's wrong with you, I said "I've once hit a girl when I was 8" I was 8 years old. I was a little child. and I made no difference between male and female back then. This girl, who was also 8 years old made my friend, who was also 8 years old, cry.
Your senseless answers make me think that you maybe just need to learn english you cow xD
Is it because you are gay or what? do you think you have to fight for the female rights now?
You thought you saw one of the stereotypical "women discriminating" terms and have to blame me for being inhumane now, me who has never hurt anybody but once when I was 8 years old?
I hope you live your life liberally and beautiful but if you try to make my life worse according to your feminist movement theory of "males are beasts and can only destroy" and "if you're a male, be careful about what you say because everything will be used against you even if you didn't say it" I would ask you to waste somebody elses time.
If you now call me intolerant or discriminating I know that you are either an idiot or really bad in english.
have a nice day, darling.
And please let me be.
craiglll
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:17 pm
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Why would you hit a girl? Some of your statements make me think that maybe you just need to sit down and have a really good "discussion" with yourself.
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