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[quote="Tequila"][quote="visagrunt"]Well then, it's time for us to repossess those.[/quote] I don't think you'll have much success... [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6UTmv2W_-w[/youtube][/quote]
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misswoofalot
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:15 am
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Tequila wrote:
"Gay boy" is definitely an insult, though.
Absolutely not when used in the scene. 'Gay lads, Gay boys' All used by fag hags and the gay community and have been for along time.
Many of us older gals and guys use it as a term of enderment in the scene for younger twinks and noobs on the scene. Or just as an expression when in a mixed bar ' where are all the fit gayboys tongiht?'
It'll also used as a collective motherly term for a women who has lots of gay friends. I don't call them my 'gay men'. I call them my 'boys' however old they might be. Or ma 'gayboys' when I am talking to straights.
Never EVER an insult and nor do they think of it as one. However, the word 'gay ' has come out recently ( last ten years) as a derogatory term for anything bad in the teen straight world so maybe taht's what you mean?
I do not see how being called a 'gayboy' could be insulting as there is nothing wrong with being gay in anyway shape or form !!!! Stand gay stand proud I say!!
visagrunt
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:18 pm
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Thom_Fuleri wrote:
Sexual slang is remarkably complicated, isn't it?
Of course it is. For two reasons:
1) Sex is remarkably complicated. The myriad combinations arising from who is doing what to whom alone create a plethora of vocabulary.
2) We are generally squeamish about speaking openly of sex, and in particular of sexual activity. So we express ourselves in euphemism.
Thom_Fuleri
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:50 pm
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* GayGuy
* Gayboy
* Gayman
These terms are merely "gay man" rammed together.
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* Bear
* Twink
* Musclemary
These are specific subcultures of gay men - bears are large and hairy, twinks are in their early twenties (as opposed to chickens, who are teenage gay men/lads) and a muscle mary spends all their time at the gym. You also missed "clone" (blond hair, blue eyes - both of which are optional - and a tendency to white T-shirts and jeans. You'll see dozens of them at any club).
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* Twunk
* Otter
I don't think I've heard these ones, or I've forgotten them.
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* Top
* Bottom
* Versatile
Again, subsets. Tops, er, like to give. Bottoms like to receive. I don't know how appropriate it would be to spell it out further than that. A guy who's versatile can go either way.
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* Chaser
I generally know this as a suffix - eg. "chubby chaser", a gay man who's into fat guys.
Sexual slang is remarkably complicated, isn't it?
Tequila
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:23 pm
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"Gay boy" is definitely an insult, though.
misswoofalot
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:13 pm
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Homosexual male
GayGuy
Gayboy
Gayman
Bear
Twink
Musclemary
TWunk
Otter
Top
Bottom
Versatile
Chaser
As a fag hag on the gay scene for the last 20 years I hear all the above and they aren't seen as derogatory at all. Just labels that help manage what you want.
craiglll
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:15 am
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The thing about labels is that they generally don't fit the entire spectrum and then some one wants an exception for themselves. I've heard a guy say, " I might be gay but I'm no queer." What does that mean?
CrazyCatLord
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:09 pm
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AstroGeek wrote:
CrazyCatLord wrote:
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Language--especially a mongrel like english--is never neat and orderly. We can't even adopt one consistent orthography, a clean and regular system of conjugations or a standardized one-to-one correspondence of sounds and letter patterns. And you're hoping for parallel vocabulary? I admire your romanticism, but I despair of any possility of success.
It's a lot more orderly than German
That's why I like the English language so much.
But at least German is highly literal, without all of the Latin mixed in.
Oh, we have a lot of Latin loanwords too. But to complicate things (we love to do that), there is usually also a colloquially used German word that means exactly the same. Educated people or specialists, such as doctors and lawyers, prefer to use the Latin terms, which laypeople without a higher education often don't understand.
For example, a castle is usually called Burg or Schloss, but posh folk call it Kastell. Culmination means Höhepunkt or Gipfelpunkt, but an intellectual would rather call it Kulmination. A gastroscopy means Magenspiegelung in colloquial German, but medical professionals and show-offs speak of a Gastroskopie.
It's the same with French words. French used to be the language of choice among the German nobility and the social upper crust. We borrowed a lot of it, but we never abandoned the German counterparts of French loanwords. An alley can either be a Gasse or an Allee. A wallet is either a Geldbörse or a Portemonnaie, and an epaulet is both a Schulterstück and an Epaulette.
This inflates the German vocabulary quite a bit, and makes it even harder for foreigners to learn the language than it already is thanks to utterly illogical things like our randomly assigned grammatical gender. The English have been a lot more consequent in their adoption of loanwords.
CrazyCatLord
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:29 pm
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Tequila wrote:
I want to have a do at Germany, visit, have a few swallies, enjoy the local atmosphere. I suspect I'd like the Germans very much indeed. Whereabouts are you from in Germany,
CrazyCatLord
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Aurich in Lower Saxony
I moved here from North Rhine-Westphalia. This is bicycle country (no steep hills, bike lanes everywhere, very considerate car drivers), which makes it easy to get around without a car. The air is much better here too, and the North Sea climate is very mild in the winter. The only problem is that I don't understand a word when elderly people chat in Low German or Saterland Frisian
Tequila
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:41 pm
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I want to have a do at Germany, visit, have a few swallies, enjoy the local atmosphere. I suspect I'd like the Germans very much indeed. Whereabouts are you from in Germany,
CrazyCatLord
?
AstroGeek
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:39 pm
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CrazyCatLord wrote:
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Language--especially a mongrel like english--is never neat and orderly. We can't even adopt one consistent orthography, a clean and regular system of conjugations or a standardized one-to-one correspondence of sounds and letter patterns. And you're hoping for parallel vocabulary? I admire your romanticism, but I despair of any possility of success.
It's a lot more orderly than German
That's why I like the English language so much.
But at least German is highly literal, without all of the Latin mixed in.
CrazyCatLord
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:37 pm
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visagrunt wrote:
Tequila wrote:
It's certainly possible but all the terms I can think of that are male-only are derogatory and homophobic.
Well then, it's time for us to repossess those.
In all seriousness, we will never get one of the perjoratives to take a coequal place with, "lesbian." And I'm okay with that. So lesbians get one more descriptive word than we do. I'm perfectly content to rely on the unambiguous term, "gay man," to stand as its male-exclusive substitute.
One more descriptive word? There is also "sapphic", and some lesbians proudly call themselves dykes (although it would never occur to me to call them that). That's five terms already if you count gay and homosexual. I thought men should have at least one that they don't have to share
But gay man works I guess. After all, there is no special adjective for bisexual men either.
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Language--especially a mongrel like english--is never neat and orderly. We can't even adopt one consistent orthography, a clean and regular system of conjugations or a standardized one-to-one correspondence of sounds and letter patterns. And you're hoping for parallel vocabulary? I admire your romanticism, but I despair of any possility of success.
It's a lot more orderly than German
That's why I like the English language so much.
CrazyCatLord
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:31 pm
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justalouise wrote:
you could try to get "gayman" to catch on. you know, like, pronounced to rhyme with "layman". heh.
...yeah, don't mind me
Neil Gaiman is one of my favorite authors
I'm not sure if he would like the idea.
Tequila
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:38 pm
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visagrunt wrote:
Well then, it's time for us to repossess those.
I don't think you'll have much success...
justalouise
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:30 pm
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you could try to get "gayman" to catch on. you know, like, pronounced to rhyme with "layman". heh.
...yeah, don't mind me
visagrunt
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:19 am
Post subject:
Tequila wrote:
It's certainly possible but all the terms I can think of that are male-only are derogatory and homophobic.
Well then, it's time for us to repossess those.
In all seriousness, we will never get one of the perjoratives to take a coequal place with, "lesbian." And I'm okay with that. So lesbians get one more descriptive word than we do. I'm perfectly content to rely on the unambiguous term, "gay man," to stand as its male-exclusive substitute.
Language--especially a mongrel like english--is never neat and orderly. We can't even adopt one consistent orthography, a clean and regular system of conjugations or a standardized one-to-one correspondence of sounds and letter patterns. And you're hoping for parallel vocabulary? I admire your romanticism, but I despair of any possility of success.
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