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[quote="Mysty"][quote="CrazyCatLord"][quote="Atomsk"][quote="Magdalena"][quote="XFilesGeek"]Non-heteronormative???[/quote] This too. Probably the best option if "LGBT" isn't good enough.[/quote] I actually like that one; any option that isn't a massive acronym is a good option in my opinion.[/quote] I like it too. It reminds me of neurodiverse. I guess gender-atypical or gender-diverse would work as well.[/quote] Dislike. Because that would make me, in contrast, gender-typical, a label which seems to imply so many things that aren't true of me. Being happy with the gender I am and atracted men doesn't mean I'm anything like a typical female.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>The_Funktasm</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:24 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">In a word, no. In two words, <span style="font-style: italic">hell no</span>. <br /> <br />I would drop the allies if anything, but even that is just my own personal, stupid opinion. One formed through distaste of a completely different sort of people.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Mysty</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:11 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Ettina wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Mysty wrote: <br /> <br />In it's most common wrong usage, pedophile refers to someone who engages in sexual behavior with children, with or without sexual desire to go with those actions. <br /> <br />Rectification <br /> <br /> <br />YOUR opinion that that's wrong usage.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />It's the DSM's opinion too. Pedophilia is a psychiatric diagnosis. It does not require that you ever touch a child, just <span style="text-decoration: underline"><a href="http://behavenet.com/pedophilia" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="postlink" >want to touch them</a></span>. <br /> <br />(Sorry, I have no idea how to make quotes within quotes.) <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Have you ever heard anybody say "I'm questioning?" Me neither.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I have. People say it all the time on <span style="text-decoration: underline"><a href="http://www.emptyclosets.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="postlink" >Empty Closets</a></span>. <br /> <br />And I hate when someone asks a question and assumes what the answer is without waiting for a reply. I'd much prefer if you'd say 'I haven't' instead of 'me neither'.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />The DSM doesn't not definite what words mean. It defines psychiatric diagnosis. That does NOT mean that a word they use for a diagnostic label only has the meaning they give it. No one put them in charge of the English language.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ettina</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:02 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Mysty wrote: <br /> <br />In it's most common wrong usage, pedophile refers to someone who engages in sexual behavior with children, with or without sexual desire to go with those actions. <br /> <br />Rectification <br /> <br /> <br />YOUR opinion that that's wrong usage.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />It's the DSM's opinion too. Pedophilia is a psychiatric diagnosis. It does not require that you ever touch a child, just <span style="text-decoration: underline"><a href="http://behavenet.com/pedophilia" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="postlink" >want to touch them</a></span>. <br /> <br />(Sorry, I have no idea how to make quotes within quotes.) <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Have you ever heard anybody say "I'm questioning?" Me neither.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I have. People say it all the time on <span style="text-decoration: underline"><a href="http://www.emptyclosets.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="postlink" >Empty Closets</a></span>. <br /> <br />And I hate when someone asks a question and assumes what the answer is without waiting for a reply. I'd much prefer if you'd say 'I haven't' instead of 'me neither'.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>younginflavor18</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:26 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>TheRedKipper wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Keep it as LGBT, Transgender people get as much abuse as Gay and Lesbian people, why do you think it's called LGBT hmm?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />As a heterosexual man I also agree, transgender men and women deserve the same protection rights from discriminaton as their gay, lesbian, bisexual peers have. I prefer to keep the term the way it is, no need to change it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Kitutal</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:36 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I wonder, you say bi people don't show enough support for the LGBT cause to be worth including, I do wonder, firstly wouldn't those that feel like they can fit in with society and not need us not bother subscribing to the group at all, leaving only those who want to offer their support? and secondly, you know sexual orientation is often not that clear cut, people can be left unsure exactly where they are, what they want, and so can't always fit themselves into one side or the other, and need help from others that have been through similar. <br /> <br />On the issue, though, of feeling like it's a lot of disconnected people put together just to boost numbers, what about the idea of separate groups alongside the combined one, or sub-groups within it, to help those like ourselves, work together, and advocate our interests, whilst still being there for other people that need it. <br /> <br />Of course, in an ideal world, everyone would be willing to treat others in the way they should, as equals, and do what they can for each other, regardless of gender, orientation or anything else, but I don't see that happening any time soon.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Chloe33</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:18 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">This sounds like high school gay clubs where lesbians or gays hate the bis since they've dated them and had them leave them for the opposites sex so for some reason Bis are not looked upon well all the time. <br /> <br />It's really a ridiculous notion as a partner could leave one for any gender male female etc. <br />It's a lousy reason to not like a group. <br /> <br />Since bis aren't straight and still get made fun of sometimes (not sure about nowadays) i would say they'll always include them in LGBT <br />that won't change. I see no reason not to include them. It's encompassing all who aren't heterosexuals. <br /> <br />Normally i identify with lesbian for decades. I've been in an relationship 5 years with a female. <br />However when she met me i was seeing a male and also a female. So i would rather not identify with anything that boxes me in.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>turtleprince</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:34 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Gays and Lesbians may be a great product placemtn on tv but that does not mean we have received no support from bisexuals. Your logic is faulty. <br /> <br />No, this is the time we fight for the rights of our transsexual and bisexual brothers and sisters. <br /> <br />I don't ever wanna read about someone fighting for the side of discrimination. That is a deep wrongness. We have been discriminated for years and we should learn to not become the discriminators. Bullies and victims are a part of the same coin. A victim turns into a bully and justifies their being a bully because they were victimized. Still doesn't make being a bully, okay. You're just continuing the cycle of making victims into bullies.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ztrain</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:53 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Have you ever considered that gays and lesbians are often as unwelcoming as you are? This leads to bisexual erasure. Most gay people scoff at Bisexuals, saying "You just cant admitt your gay" So gay peoples exclusinary attitudes towards bi folks like your own opinions is what produces the effect you just described.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>TheRedKipper</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:25 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Keep it as LGBT, Transgender people get as much abuse as Gay and Lesbian people, why do you think it's called LGBT hmm?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>NeuroticDragoon</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:19 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>fraac wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Maybe, but isn't it better to be more inclusive? I think the aim is to eventually have a group including everyone.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />The college I attend actually has a LGBTS group, which includes straight people. Of course if you aren't gay or lesbian, they treat you like you just murdered an entire preschool. <br /> <br />Their website doesn't help their cause, either. Looking at it reminds me more of a terrorist organization recruiting soldiers than an acceptance club collecting members. It actually scared me just to look at it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Crazygirl79</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:02 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'd be doing the same if there was a middle finger icon available here...Sounds like AspieRoss might be suffering unhealthy doses of biphobia and transphobia...he should be ashamed of himself! <br /> <br />I think we should leave it as it is LGBT!! <br /> <br />S</span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>XFilesGeek wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">If there was a "middle finger" icon on this site, I'd be using it right now. <br /> <br />It's always heart-warming to see disparaged minority groups being disparaging to other minority groups. <br /> <br />Have a lovely Christmas. <br /> <br /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Razgriz</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:39 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Ive never understood how gays and lesbians can be so hateful to ANY minority, especially one which overlaps with them a lot. I mean seriously, you would think being oppressed would have taught us not to try and oppress others. But some people never learn. If you advance your own rights and agenda while trampling on the rights and agenda of a group that overlaps with you, you're nothing short of a complete hypocrite.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Vatnos</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:22 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Rorberyllium wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Queer on queer hate is one of the saddest things. <br /> <br />Especially trans-hate. Trans people get screwed over by the whole planet, at least give them one place where they belong.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I deeply sympathize. Even my mother, who is a lifelong advocate of gay rights, has hangups with transfolk. Even people who are progressive on every other issue can still be unsafe to be around. There's no way of knowing. And a section of the gay community does seem pretty eager to throw the T's under the bus to advance their own rights faster. <br /> <br />It's not very sporting.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>khaos</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:31 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Well you seem to be a bit confused. I've always had issues with being labeled bi, I got crap from both straight and gay people. PLUS being trans myself....if I transition I would be a bi/gay male. Really we just want to be heard, not bullied, the same rights as everyone else. You, have certainly exceeded as being a first class troll.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ca2MgFe5Si8O22OH2</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:32 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>meems wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Queer is queer is queer and I would rather be all inclusive, and support everyone regardless of whether or not they show as much or any support.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">supporting others as a gesture of solidarity is often an excellent way to generate support from them in the future.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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