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[quote="namaste"][quote="Catarina"] Narcissists do not want to understand their role, or become a better person. They just want their way, lots of flattery and fodder for their opinion that they are better because everyone else is worse. Writing a "Mommie Dearest" book would likely initiate a war. Public humilation is the most enraging of all activities to a narcissist and retribution would come from any corner of the writers life that the narcissist could possibly poison.[/quote] some daughters who have written books about their mothers narcissistic behaviour like Enid Blytons daughter Imogen and Mommy Dearest by christian against her mom Joan if you read the reviews most of the people have criticized them and said that they have made up such things. Imogens sister says that her mother was never that way but Imogen had different opinion. Similarly Christina's sister says that her mom was never that way. We have to understand that there is always a golden child and a scapegoat in the narcissistic plan And the scapegoat is tortured whereas the golden child is prized possession so whenever the scapegoat tries to make a attempt at speaking up the golden child and narcissistic mother would try to prove that the scapegoat is crazy. And thats what is happening with me and many other tortured children by narcissistic mom's[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>GoshEvan</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:44 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">my dad is the best at acting like an angel infront of guests but plays the tough guy act when you're alone .. whimps</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>labomba</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:30 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">This is my mother, every word describes her. <br /> <br />I hate you carmen</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>overthinker9</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:34 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Sigh..this is my mom to a t. I was the golden boy growing up, and my sister was the scapegoat. Many of my current issues are a result of her psychopathic manner of raising me. Analyzing it now she's just a narcissistic b**** who thinks she's better than everyone in my immediate family.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>MCalavera</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:43 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>hurtloam wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>MrKnowItAll wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> I don't want to put any more links in the chain of toxicity.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Same here. This gene pool ends with me. <br /> <br />Some times I wonder if I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome because of the stressful upbringing I've had and trying to cope with my Mother. I am always super alert and just on the edge ready for fight or flight. I find it very hard to unwind. I am always tense which tires me out I think.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I'm not 100% certain if the gene pool has ended with me in my case. Sometimes I wonder if I'm a Narcissist in denial. My siblings look fine, though. They certainly have their heads screwed on straight.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>opal</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:22 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I've cut contact with my mother, possibly permanantly. Part of it was because of ongoing and historic abuse directed towards myself. However a lot of it was the realization that she is just a cruel, callous, manipulative person to others as well - this may be directed towards people she hasn't even met and has no knowledge of - so it has nothing to do with me or my aspergers, my personality or anything else. Unfortunatly 2 of my sibs now do not want much to do with me. One is Golden Boy so no surprises there.... <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Tali</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:46 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">My cruel mother died last summer. The chain of cruelty has ended. My children are being raised in love and contentment and acceptance. One sad thing about her death is that there is now no hope of her changing and becoming a good caring mother and grandmother. I try not to dwell on this.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>hurtloam</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:08 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>MrKnowItAll wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> I don't want to put any more links in the chain of toxicity.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Same here. This gene pool ends with me. <br /> <br />Some times I wonder if I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome because of the stressful upbringing I've had and trying to cope with my Mother. I am always super alert and just on the edge ready for fight or flight. I find it very hard to unwind. I am always tense which tires me out I think.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Lenoh</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:09 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">This sounds like my mom AND my ex. <br /> <br />Thanks, Freud. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_evil.gif" alt="Evil or Very Mad" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>MCalavera</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:43 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Learn something new every day</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Stephelaine wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I can barely stand to socialize with my mom but do so when I need because of my daughter. She's actually good to her and loves her like she never loved me.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />The Narcissist parent is known to dote on one of his/her kids and treat that kid with "unconditional" love to the exclusion of the other kids.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Raziel</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:12 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Learn something new every day</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Stephelaine wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">And here I just thought mom acted the way she did because she had post-partum depression and we never bonded! <br /> <br />When really she's just a narcissistic b****. Well, I already knew the witch with a b part. All the stuff in the article makes sense to me. I can see those times now that mom would do something to hurt my self esteem just for her own benefit and I cringe. I was the scapegoat and my brother was the golden child, of course. He still can do no wrong. <br /> <br />I can barely stand to socialize with my mom but do so when I need because of my daughter. She's actually good to her and loves her like she never loved me.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Psychiatry is highly subjective, what to dx and when. Personality disorders just describe behaviour. There is no blood test or any other objective test to proof their validity.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Stephelaine</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:56 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Learn something new every day</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">And here I just thought mom acted the way she did because she had post-partum depression and we never bonded! <br /> <br />When really she's just a narcissistic b****. Well, I already knew the witch with a b part. All the stuff in the article makes sense to me. I can see those times now that mom would do something to hurt my self esteem just for her own benefit and I cringe. I was the scapegoat and my brother was the golden child, of course. He still can do no wrong. <br /> <br />I can barely stand to socialize with my mom but do so when I need because of my daughter. She's actually good to her and loves her like she never loved me.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>MrKnowItAll</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:32 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Yes.. thats her....</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>AceX wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I thought I was an aspie.... thats why I came here in the first place... however it ended up that I am a scizoid... there are many similarities between scizoids and aspies... scizoids have autistic thinking.. however they lack the talents that most aspies have...</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I don't think "Schizoid" means much. It's been dropped from the latest DSM. If you're a loner and don't have any extra problems to go with it or ASD, that's not any kind of disorder. Before Asperger's was very well known, a lot of Aspies were diagnosed as Schizoid. So were people with AvPD. Psy workers missed them because most didn't know to look for it. That takes pretty nearly everybody out of the Schizoid category. <br /> <br />To my thinking, you don't need major talent to be an Aspie. All you need is a modest amount of autism. Classical autistics went through a long period of being nonverbal or nearly nonverbal (my criterion, not something the classifiers say). You might know that the latest DSM folded Aspergers into Autism Spectrum Disorder because people spread all the way through one to the other with lots of variations in both. They're probably the same thing or the same dozen things. <br /> <br />All the same, I'll go on using the term Aspergers. Aspergers Aspergers Aspergers.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>MrKnowItAll</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:06 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">My heart goes out to you, namaste. <br /> <br />Like so many others in this thread, I recognise something of my own mother (and my father too) in all this. My mother's main schtick is sucking away my autonomy with suffocating "helpfulness," but she indulges in some of the others too. I had chronic fatigue syndrome for three years. I eventually found out I could push it into remission if I quit drinking coffee and some other things. When I moved to my own place, she gave me a coffee maker for a housewarming gift. <br /> <br />I am one of eight children: five alcoholics, one with a different drug dependency, six depressives, two with AvPD, two with NPD, one with an anxiety disorder. I have joked that the reason my parents had so many children was that they were hoping they'd eventually get one they liked. <br /> <br />There have been five marriages among us (one twice) and four divorces. One married a woman with an IQ about thirty points below his, who had an alcoholic father (I don't know much else about him) and whose sister was a prostitute with NPD. One married a woman with both Borderline PD and Aspergers. One married a woman with NPD. One married a very nice man who adores her even though she abuses him. One is alienated from his son. <br /> <br />My mother complains about not having more grandchildren (although there are eight). I don't want to put any more links in the chain of toxicity. One of my nieces grew up healthy. Two are getting professional help, and it's done both a world of good. It makes me happy to think of that. <br /> <br />My father complains about all his children being failures. Sometimes it sounds like gloating. <br /> <br />I know that my parents had their personality disorders handed down to them through their own parents' twisted behaviors. I try not to hate them, but much of the time I do.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>hurtloam</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:30 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">This description is my mother. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Everything she does is deniable. There is always a facile excuse or an explanation. Cruelties are couched in loving terms. Aggressive and hostile acts are paraded as thoughtfulness. Selfish manipulations are presented as gifts. Criticism and slander is slyly disguised as concern. She only wants what is best for you. She only wants to help you. </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />It is very difficult to prove this sort of behaviour. Strangely I ended up living with a roommate who's mother is like this too. The first day she moved in, her mother helped and that afternoon she immediately started displaying narcissistic behaviours. A slow dread spread over me because I recognised the warning signs and I felt trapped. I had signed a 6 month lease and couldn't get out of it and knew I had made a terrible mistake. I couldn't believe I had voluntarily let someone like that into my life again. <br /> <br />I actually felt angry with myself and very stupid for allowing myself to get caught up in someone else's web again. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">She’s extremely envious. Any time you get something nice she’s angry and envious and her envy will be apparent when she admires whatever it is. She’ll try to get it from you, spoil it for you</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I feel like the roommate's Mom did this to me because her only child was now living with me and she didn't want her to be happier living with me than she was at home. She made it clear that nothing I had was good enough for her daughter. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">She is never wrong about anything. No matter what she’s done, she won’t ever genuinely apologize for anything, because she does not feel responsible</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />The only apology I got from my roommates mother was a put down. It was like, I'm sorry I said such and such, but if what you had to offer was better I would never have felt the need to say it. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">To you, she’ll lie blatantly. She will claim to be unable to remember bad things she has done, even if she did one of them recently and even if it was something very memorable.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />My mother does this. If I ever try to talk to her about how something she has done makes me feel she denies it or twists it so that she remembers it differently to how it actually happened. I'm never sure if she knows that she is lying or if she is just crazy and actually believes it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Chloe33</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:58 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">There was a psychologist, a man on the web who had a whole blog about his own mother and BPD and NPD and had different stories of individuals who have suffered as children of those with BPD or NPD. <br />I can't remember the site, if i find it i will post the link, i keep looking.. yet i know he is based in the East Coast area (i think NC)</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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