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[quote="CrazyCatLord"]Perhaps this thread should be moved to the PPR subforum? I don't see what the incendiary and irrational topic of religion has to do with LGBT matters. I'd appreciate if I didn't run into religious topics outside of the PPR forum, which I'm avoiding these days because there is too much religious dogma being thrown around. (Btw, I wish there was a subforum to discuss politics and social matters without being preached at).[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Dhawal</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:47 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>rosewood wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> ... because it's such good sport taking the piss out of them ... </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/hail.gif" alt="hail" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>rosewood</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:18 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">The homophobia brigade are here because they think it's their business to tell people how to live. I wouldn't encourage them to go away ... because it's such good sport taking the piss out of them ... :-O</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Heidi80</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:55 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Why are the "homosexuality is a sin"-people post here when this is clearly a forum for lgbt-people?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Dhawal</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:10 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Jory wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">God's plans are kind of screwy. They sound like something your drunk buddy would come up with after the seventh shot of Jager. "You know what, we should just, like, wipe it all out, man. Flood the earth. Flood it. Get rid of everything. Start over. But it'll be cool, man. Don't worry. I know a guy with a boat."</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />That is so funny!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>rosewood</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:37 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Ember_Of wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>rosewood wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">One can get much the same sense from other translations such as the New English Bible.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />*nods* Mostly the same - but I read an article that convinced me that the books of the New Testament likely weren't originally written in Greek (as I'd always heard and been taught, growing up) at all, but rather in Aramaic. (And <span style="font-style: italic">then</span> translated to Greek.) <br /> <br />Checking out the difference in a translation of the verse of <a href="http://bible.cc/romans/5-7.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="postlink" >Romans 5:7</a>, for instance - (a verse that had always baffled and consternated me) from the traditional Greek to English, vs. Aramaic to English - convinced me. (There are other historically compelling reasons, too. It wasn't just how much more sense that verse makes that convinced me.)</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />The real problem with the Christian Bible is less that some translations are not from the Aramaic but that so many other gospels were left out. See, for example, Ehrman, Bart, "Lost Christianities", Oxford University Press. ... <br /> <br />... but I sense that this is getting a little off-topic ... <br /> <br />... and as Buddhist I leave the Bible to people who think it's important ...</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ember_Of</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:42 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>rosewood wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">One can get much the same sense from other translations such as the New English Bible.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />*nods* Mostly the same - but I read an article that convinced me that the books of the New Testament likely weren't originally written in Greek (as I'd always heard and been taught, growing up) at all, but rather in Aramaic. (And <span style="font-style: italic">then</span> translated to Greek.) <br /> <br />Checking out the difference in a translation of the verse of <a href="http://bible.cc/romans/5-7.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="postlink" >Romans 5:7</a>, for instance - (a verse that had always baffled and consternated me) from the traditional Greek to English, vs. Aramaic to English - convinced me. (There are other historically compelling reasons, too. It wasn't just how much more sense that verse makes that convinced me.)</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>rosewood</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:33 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">One can get much the same sense from other translations such as the New English Bible. <br /> <br />--------------------------------------- <br />I take refuge in the Buddha <br />I take refuge in the Dharma <br />I take refuge in the Sangha</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ambivalence</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:05 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">That sounds like a very interesting translation. I wonder why it's only available in dead-tree form? <br /> <br />(edit) Doh, just found the online edition.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ember_Of</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:36 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">This speaks today to modern-day "Christians": <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <a href="http://aramaic-plain-english.scripturetext.com/romans/2.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="postlink" >17_But if you are called from the Jews and are comforted by The Written Law and are boasting in God, 18_You who know his will and discern what is right, you who are taught from The Written Law, 19_And you are confident yourself that you are a leader of the blind and a light of those who are in darkness, 20_And an instructor of those lacking understanding and a teacher of children, and you have a model of knowledge and of the truth in The Written Law, 21_You therefore who are teaching others, you do not teach yourself. You who are preaching that people should not steal, you are stealing! 22_You who say that people should not commit adultery, you commit adultery, and you who despise idols plunder the holy place! 23_And you who are boasting in The Written Law, you violate The Written Law, and you insult God himself! 24_<span style="font-weight: bold">For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you, according to what has been written.</span></a></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Romans 2:17-24, <span style="font-style: italic">Aramaic Bible in Plain English</span> <br /> <br /> <br />-of which I am one. (Who has accepted my bisexuality and believes in faith that I am under grace, in Christ.) <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />The only conclusion or reconciliation that I can find between my faith and my orientation is found in the promise that the acceptance of the gift of Christ - who was & is the <span style="font-style: italic">fulfillment</span> (he satisfies it on our behalf) of The Written Law - puts us in the position of being covered by God's grace. <br /> <br /> <br />And as for the topic of the way someone is, from birth: <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"><a href="http://aramaic-plain-english.scripturetext.com/john/9.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" class="postlink" >1_And as he passed, he saw a man blind from his mother's womb. 2_And his disciples asked him and they were saying, “Our Master, <span style="font-weight: bold">who is it that has sinned, this one or his parents, that he would be born blind?</span>” 3_Yeshua said to them, “<span style="font-weight: bold">He had not sinned nor his parents, but that the works of God may appear in him.</span>”</a></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />John 9:1-3, <span style="font-style: italic">Aramaic Bible in Plain English</span> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Substitute "gay" or "trans" or any other from-birth "difference" that you wish, and this becomes an eye-opener. <br /> <br />Call it "Jesus On Being Born Different And 'Sin,'" if you wish. *shrugs*</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Joker</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:40 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I am a devot methodist my church is divided when it comes to the LGBT communit I for one support them while the older memmebers of my church do not but the younger generation does.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>rosewood</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:04 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>AstroGeek wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>rosewood wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I'll probably get into trouble for this ... so what's new ... <br /> <br />As an aspie MtF TS ex-Quaker I'd have to say that I'm quite sickened by what <span style="font-weight: bold">shrox</span> has posted in this thread. He says he does not condemn people whose actions he nevertheless calls "sin". Does it never occur to him that calling something a "sin" *entails* condemnation simply by virtue of what the word "sin" means? <br /> <br />Sadly my experience of Quakers is that they are very prone to this kind of doublethink. They always have some rationalisation that portrays them as good people and excuses them when they treat others badly. <br /> <br />Whited sepulchres come to mind. <br /> <br /> <br />--------------------------------------- <br />I take refuge in the Buddha <br />I take refuge in the Dharma <br />I take refuge in the Sangha</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Funny--Quakers are quite LGBT friendly in Canada from my understanding. They were one of the religious groups to endorse same-sex marriage.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Well, Quakers are not a homogeneous whole. Most British Quakers identify as liberal and Britain Yearly Meeting has also supported same-sex marriage. In the US there are several different flavours of Quakerism including Pastoral Friends and Conservative Friends. The spectrum of social opinion among US Friends is much wider than in the UK. <br /> <br />There is also a difference between the publicly-stated positions of the national Quaker organisations and the behaviour of individual Quakers in its meetings. In my own former meeting it was quite clear that certain elders were TG hostile, despite their own protestations to the contrary. This is worse than the behaviour of extreme Christian evangelicals, most of whom will actually own up to their views, however bigoted they are. Alas some Quakers of my acquaintance seem impelled to appear tolerant in public but behave intolerantly in private. <br /> <br />It's particularly bad when it's an elder who is hostile because, at least in the UK, Quakers are hopelessly inept at dealing with conflicts in heir own meetings. There is an unwritten rule that nobody is supposed to criticise anyone else, with the result that bigoted elders are never held to account. I know of one Quaker who has been involved in persecuting at least four Quaker MtFs. She should have been kicked out years ago ... but some of us are working on it ... <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /> <br /> <br />I would also say that there is an inherent bias against aspies, not on doctrinal grounds, but because we can appear cold and unfeeling and lots of Quakers are quite good empathisers. I've had a lot of flak from Quakers about this and it contributed to my decision to abandon them for the Buddhists. <br /> <br />Buddhism asks its followers not to engage in sexual misconduct but leaves it to them to decide what constitutes such misconduct. Generally conduct would be held to be unethical if it causes suffering to others. <br /> <br />--------------------------------------- <br />I take refuge in the Buddha <br />I take refuge in the Dharma <br />I take refuge in the Sangha <br /> <br />... mainly because I need it ...</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AstroGeek</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:05 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>rosewood wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I'll probably get into trouble for this ... so what's new ... <br /> <br />As an aspie MtF TS ex-Quaker I'd have to say that I'm quite sickened by what <span style="font-weight: bold">shrox</span> has posted in this thread. He says he does not condemn people whose actions he nevertheless calls "sin". Does it never occur to him that calling something a "sin" *entails* condemnation simply by virtue of what the word "sin" means? <br /> <br />Sadly my experience of Quakers is that they are very prone to this kind of doublethink. They always have some rationalisation that portrays them as good people and excuses them when they treat others badly. <br /> <br />Whited sepulchres come to mind. <br /> <br /> <br />--------------------------------------- <br />I take refuge in the Buddha <br />I take refuge in the Dharma <br />I take refuge in the Sangha</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Funny--Quakers are quite LGBT friendly in Canada from my understanding. They were one of the religious groups to endorse same-sex marriage.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>rosewood</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:07 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'll probably get into trouble for this ... so what's new ... <br /> <br />As an aspie MtF TS ex-Quaker I'd have to say that I'm quite sickened by what <span style="font-weight: bold">shrox</span> has posted in this thread. He says he does not condemn people whose actions he nevertheless calls "sin". Does it never occur to him that calling something a "sin" *entails* condemnation simply by virtue of what the word "sin" means? <br /> <br />Sadly my experience of Quakers is that they are very prone to this kind of doublethink. They always have some rationalisation that portrays them as good people and excuses them when they treat others badly. <br /> <br />Whited sepulchres come to mind. <br /> <br /> <br />--------------------------------------- <br />I take refuge in the Buddha <br />I take refuge in the Dharma <br />I take refuge in the Sangha</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Dots</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:10 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'm not gay, but I am transgender and I belong to the United Church of Canada. They're pretty accepting of LGBT and women's rights. I'm trying to find a good congregation in my city to be a part of. <br /> <br />I don't want to start an argument, but this was a good read for me: <br /><a href="http://www.gaychristianfellowship.com/articles.php?go=series&sid=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.gaychristianfellowship.com/articles.php?go=series&sid=1</a></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>rosewood</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:51 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I was a Quaker but walked away from them because of transgender hostility in my meeting and became a Buddhist. <br /> <br />To me *all* the Abrahamic religions seem absurdly obsessed with who shares a bed with whom, who sticks which body parts into which orifices and what position they assume while all this is going on. I don't wish Jews, Christians or Muslims ill but I find it impossible to take them seriously when they are so sanctimonious about sex. <br /> <br />As a perceptive man once said, "Leave the dead to bury the dead".</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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