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[quote="aussiebloke"]^^^^ I think what I was trying to say is stick to unami rich foods.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pandora_Box</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:07 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Oh sorry. All right I shall take your advice Aussie. lol...I'm sorry for the side trackness of my own reply.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>aussiebloke</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:04 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">^^^^ <br /> <br />I think what I was trying to say is stick to unami rich foods.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pandora_Box</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:58 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>aussiebloke wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />Thats a good point their are so many foods I would not have tried if I had not become one. eg kimichi, "stinky tofu " (straight out of the jar ) which shocks asians <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> , natto etc etc. All foods meat eaters find "gross" and an oyster isn't ? <br /> <br /> <br />It makes me laugh when meat eaters say vegan food is dull and repetitive the above , mentioned foods are pure unami!. <br /> <br />Though you don't say if you live in a city, I think I would panic if I lived in rural area what would I eat potatoes ? Even a Swiss person like mysslf can OD on Rosti.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I live in a suburban rural area. It's an isolated surburban neighborhood around 1hr to half hour away from the city. But I take the drive to the city because I have to go to college, so I shop as well in the city. <br /> <br />I think a lot of people do not try a lot of foods. Actually I have been a little cruel in that way before. I won't tell anyone my baked goods are vegan and then they say it's really good and then I tell them it had no egg or milk. I ask people if they have allergies of course. But still people are always surprised when something is vegan cause they only assume something from the name.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>aussiebloke</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:54 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Pandora_Box wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>TheDarkMage wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">i know this isnt really any help but i wish i was like you in a way. if i was a vegan or could live off a vegan diet then i wouldnt be the pig-at-a-trough that i am.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /><span style="font-weight: bold">Being vegan has allowed me to explore and come out of my comfort zone trying things I would have never tried before.</span> I realize how limited my omnivore diet was when I was a kid. I only ever ate the same things. When I went vegan I have tried Indian food, I have made my own Asain equivalent meals. I stopped wanting to go out because I knew how to make what was made at the resteraunts and make it much healthier too. It's just the social isolation that's killing me. <br /> <br />For twenty years of my life, even as I kid I suffered with the painfulness of psoraisis and eczema. When I was twenty it was so bad the psoriasis growing on my eyelids was scratching the surface of my eyeballs. It was so cake, sore and painful. And all the doctors ever wanted to do was perscribe me more ointment. My skin is super sensitive and it just made things worse. I went vegan as a last resort and everything cleared up. <br /> <br />I tried going back omnivore, but it just doesn't work.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Thats a good point their are so many foods I would not have tried if I had not become one. eg kimichi, "stinky tofu " (straight out of the jar ) which shocks asians <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> , natto etc etc. All foods meat eaters find "gross" and an oyster isn't ? <br /> <br /> <br />It makes me laugh when meat eaters say vegan food is dull and repetitive the above , mentioned foods are pure unami!. <br /> <br />Though you don't say if you live in a city, I think I would panic if I lived in rural area what would I eat potatoes ? Even a Swiss person like mysslf can OD on Rosti.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pandora_Box</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:29 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>ValentineWiggin wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />Could you incorporate faux animal products into any of the meals your family eats? <br />Ex- they have pasta with chicken, and you have pasta with some meatless "chkn" from MorningStar or Boca?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I try to as often as I can. "Denial Bacon" and "Denial Ham sandwich slices". Chicken is actually tofu. I use tofu to replace chicken or egg in a lot of my meals. I actually really love tofu. But the moment I don't have tofu here at the home it becomes unbarable, I miss tofu.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ValentineWiggin</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:25 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'm a vegan of 5.5 years- <br />while I'm of the ethical variety, <br />I can empathize with the feelings of isolation it causes. <br />I get so very tired of going out with people and finding the only option is a salad (often not even that, unaltered) <br />or a plate of sad-looking cooked vegetables, <br />while everyone else eats something delicious. <br /> <br />Could you incorporate faux animal products into any of the meals your family eats? <br />Ex- they have pasta with chicken, and you have pasta with some meatless "chkn" from MorningStar or Boca?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pandora_Box</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:19 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Thanks Ria.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ria1989</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:06 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Pandora_Box wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I think if I want to stay vegan I need to explore more. That's the issue. I'm the best when I can experiment and explore. I'm the best vegan when I have enough to expand my horizones. I'm not so good fo a vegan when things begin to dwindle.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /> <br />Good luck with everything!!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pandora_Box</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:35 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I think if I want to stay vegan I need to explore more. That's the issue. I'm the best when I can experiment and explore. I'm the best vegan when I have enough to expand my horizones. I'm not so good fo a vegan when things begin to dwindle.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>heatherbk</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:12 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I was vegetarian for about three months and it wasn't easy but just like you mentioned I felt so much better on so many different aspects. If it's difficult for you to keep your vegan diet, how about vegetarian? You dont necessarily have to go all the way if you know what I mean. Trader Joes and Whole Foods are a godsend where I live so I shop there frequently although I'm no longer vegetarian. Online shopping can be useful to buy ingredients that suit your dietary needs. I do eat meat now but I try to cut out dairy products as much as I can except for occasional indulgences such as milk tea, cheese and ice cream.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pandora_Box</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:03 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Gita wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">If you are allergic to the many things you state you are, then keep eating vegan-wise. <br /> <br />Does it matter that you are lonely? You are not feeling sick to your stomach. Vegan food is fine. If you were to ask me how to become re-interested in vegan food, I'd say to buy a new vegan cookbook, or maybe a vegan chat site. Do something vegenish like helping out at a farm sanctuary (or just walk dogs at a rescue or the shelter (realizing I know dogs eat meat) but you know, helping animals. <br /> <br />I am not a vegan. I am an omnivore who eats a lot of vegetarian and vegan dishes. I have never seen anything odd about going meatless and have done for years at a time. I keep falling off the wagon due to my carnivorous nature, and weak will. If I were actually allergic-- why there would be no more question. It would be a health issue. pasta with only tomato sauce here I come! <br /> <br />Katy</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Because...I use to eat omnivore, since I was a kid. For 20 years. So I too have a weak will despite my psoriasis and eczema. Bacon, I love bacon. I cannot have it. <br /> <br />I keep fighting myself. It was easier when there was another vegan in the household, but now that there isn't...no one cares about my cooking. No one cares when I cook. <br /> <br />I love cooking for the family.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Gita</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:19 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">If you are allergic to the many things you state you are, then keep eating vegan-wise. <br /> <br />Does it matter that you are lonely? You are not feeling sick to your stomach. Vegan food is fine. If you were to ask me how to become re-interested in vegan food, I'd say to buy a new vegan cookbook, or maybe a vegan chat site. Do something vegenish like helping out at a farm sanctuary (or just walk dogs at a rescue or the shelter (realizing I know dogs eat meat) but you know, helping animals. <br /> <br />I am not a vegan. I am an omnivore who eats a lot of vegetarian and vegan dishes. I have never seen anything odd about going meatless and have done for years at a time. I keep falling off the wagon due to my carnivorous nature, and weak will. If I were actually allergic-- why there would be no more question. It would be a health issue. pasta with only tomato sauce here I come! <br /> <br />Katy</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pandora_Box</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:05 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>ouinon wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />Have you tried giving up gluten, or perhaps casein/dairy? <br />.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />A vegan diet is a vegan diet. No milk. I am also lactose intolerant as well. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>TheDarkMage wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">does the condition flare up immediately or do you have to regularly eat non-vegan food for it to come back?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />A week usually it begins to appear through the week. It's slow and not immediate, but it doesn't take months just a few days. <br /> <br />edit- <br /> <br />I probably should make it clear Ou, I have not been officially screened by a doctor. For my allergies. They have always just given me cream to cure it. I would love to know, but fear they will not accept my own personal experience.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>TheDarkMage</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:52 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">does the condition flare up immediately or do you have to regularly eat non-vegan food for it to come back?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ouinon</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:51 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">PS. Important additional remark! <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /> <br /> <br />And something else, allergy/intolerance of certain foods can be deceptive. I used to think that I was allergic to tea, to citrus fruits, to pickles, and certain other foods in my teens and twenties; they used to apparently trigger the most awful headaches, agonising bloating, and odd other things ... so I avoided them ... only to gradually find other more serious health issues bothering me ( like mood-disorder ! ) and on trying a gluten-free diet which I had read might help ( and it did ) I suddenly found that my other problems stopped, no more headaches, no more bloating, better sleep, etc. <br /> <br />What hapens is that there is one ( or a couple of ) underlying or "invisible" food intolerances/allergies, in which one major/daily food source partly/largely "fills up" the "bucket" of how much stress our bodies can cope with, and then other foods, to which we are slightly sensitive cause that "bucket" to overflow. <br /> <br />Have you tried giving up gluten, or perhaps casein/dairy? <br /> <br />Good luck anyway. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /> <br />.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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