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[quote="Alexender"]I know what I am going to say has already been covered. For me first getting tested into the gifted program in 3rd grade. 5th grade I got diagnosed with add. Around 8th grade I was misdiagnosed with bipolar. For gifted program- In second grade everybody in my school district took the test. I supposedly scored around 70 on a part of it. I was able to take a second test because I had an IEP for speech. I scored highest in spatial, and the part of the test that I had scored 70 on in the second test I scored 120. Don't know what area of the test it could have been. The only major thing that had changed is that my reading level had gone up a lot.[/quote]
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caveman2
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:39 am
Post subject: Hope
I've heard that hope is the boobie prize.
Maybe, but I have the type of perspective that can turn a casual smile of a woman into a happy, fulfilling life of marriage/merging by the time she regains her usual mask.
"Having a diagnosis" can push me either way. If I don't agree with it I want a second opinion. I just went through that with a periodontist. It took me about a month to get my dental records, x-rays, arrange them in proper order along with perio charts for the past three years. Then I went in. He said I was well prepared or something to that effect, I had all the x-rays on my computer to show him so he would have them at the time of my exam.
I think allowing a diagnosis to open doors is one of the things a civilized sort of place would set up.
There are so many controversial, ironic, paradoxical things about psychiatry that I left it in 1989, I was burned out after fifteen years.
YellowBanana
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:42 pm
Post subject:
I was told by my diagnosing psych that my ASD was obvious. There is no question about this diagnosis. However, I've had a really difficult time recently and getting the support I need has been frustratingly difficult.
My GP referred me back to the psych team and last week I was given an EDD diagnosis: emotional dysregulation disorder. Basically BPD by another name. She was also convinced of my ASD diagnosis, and said the EDD could come directly from the ASD or from years of emotional trauma from having had to live my life (especially as a child/teen) without having my ASD diagnosed and therefore never having the support I needed. She said the EDD diagnosis had been complicated by the ASD because my presentation of it is different.
I can't say I'm particularly pleased about having another label but I am pleased about two things:
1. My ASD was correctly diagnosed before I got the EDD/BPD diagnosis
2. The EDD diagnosis suddenly opens doors to support and treatment that were previously shut for me (funding for support from the local autistic society and also psychotherapy (not sure what form that will take but there is a good chance it will be DBT))
I am relieved that I will finally get the help I need to help get my life back on track and move forward.
kirayng
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:01 pm
Post subject:
I've undergone severe trauma from my childhood/adolescence and was originally diagnosed with a list of psychiatric conditions, BPD and C-PTSD on it. Also schizotypal PD, avoidant PD (how I could have both!? at age 12...
) the only dx that is still valid is the C-PTSD (which affects core beliefs, etc.) and ADHD which I'm being re-evaluated for along with Asperger's.
It is still difficult for me to say if I have traits because of abuse or because of having autism, because I was abused as a child for acting out (whatever that was) and then released to the system when I was ten years old. You would think all my time in group homes, psychiatric hospitals and inpatient residential treatment centers that someone would've thought about autism with me instead of cycling through every dx in the DSM-IV. So, with that, I went about 20 years without any treatment whatsoever. but I healed in that time.
Wanted to second dcs002; I had done DBT and it really helped a lot. There were a lot of challenging moments in group, esp. when other women would come in and threaten staff with bodily dismemberment -- and I eventually ran out of money to keep going... but overall, it helped me.
One of the things that autistics all share, Mind Blindness... you mention you cannot "intuit" others... that "blank" feeling or whatever, that's unique to spectrum, this is beyond mental illness. You can be quite detached if you have schizoid PD, but you also "know" others' like ppl w/ an ASD can't.
icyfire4w5
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:50 am
Post subject:
I believe that I have mentioned this before--my cousin, who is an Aspie like me, was misdiagnosed with shizophrenia. He was given drugs that left him in a daze.
Alexender
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:15 am
Post subject:
I know what I am going to say has already been covered. For me first getting tested into the gifted program in 3rd grade. 5th grade I got diagnosed with add. Around 8th grade I was misdiagnosed with bipolar.
For gifted program- In second grade everybody in my school district took the test. I supposedly scored around 70 on a part of it. I was able to take a second test because I had an IEP for speech. I scored highest in spatial, and the part of the test that I had scored 70 on in the second test I scored 120. Don't know what area of the test it could have been. The only major thing that had changed is that my reading level had gone up a lot.
Bun
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:01 am
Post subject:
I got other disorders that don't define me. But I suspect my autistic behaviours are trauma-related. They're still autistic behaviours to me, though.
dcs002
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:06 am
Post subject:
I know this isn't quite what the OP asked, but the thread seems to have drifted a bit.
I was
misdiagnosed
with borderline personality disorder a couple years before being diagnosed with AS. A number of the traits overlap, though it's clear that my care providers just weren't thinking of ASD's in my case. For some reason, they just don't seem to think of ASD's in adult patients. It's like they expect all of us with ASD's were diagnosed as kids, or that only kids have ASD's, so they don't have to look. But as we all know, AS wasn't a diagnosis until the early 90s, and some of us were already adults by then, slipping through the cracks. I imagine that in 50 years or more, when people who slipped through the cracks with me have all died off, most adults on the spectrum will have been diagnosed, but as of right now, I'm pretty sure most of us aren't.
Being misdiagnosed with BPD wasn't all bad. It made me eligible for a fairly new kind of group therapy called dialectical behavioral therapy, or DBT. (My health plan would only cover DBT for people diagnosed with BPD because that's who it was originally designed for.) I got a lot out of DBT that helped me with everyday life. It's really practical stuff that probably anyone could benefit from. Most of us with an ASD also have depression and/or an anxiety disorder, and that combination can look like BPD. In my case, I also feel inside a lot of the things people with BPD are said to feel, and much of my self-talk is also similar. But after a few months in that group, I knew this still wasn't it. I was fundamentally different from the others in that group. I didn't complain though, because I was still getting a lot out of DBT.
I've always also had some form of depression, but now I know that it's secondary to my AS. At about the same time I was diagnosed with AS I was also diagnosed with anxiety disorder, NOS - also secondary to AS.
Joe90
Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:05 pm
Post subject:
I had a cousin who had learning difficulties, and was intellectually below average all through school, and some of the teachers suspected a very mild form of AS, but wasn't sure because her IQ was very below average. She had to be put in a special ed group. The reason why she was suspected of AS was because she had trouble mixing, and she was (and still is) very bad with reading body language. That is why she is with the control-freak of a maniac she is with now......
Briarsprout
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:44 pm
Post subject:
I feel some learning disabled (LD) peoples can also have, on occasion, non-verbal learning disabilities and/ or aspergers. But this depends on the person and the LD handicap as these can differ.
I feel this is the case with me too. I observe many of my behavior described within these forums and sometimes I do not "get" social situations very well or I obtain an over load in some sensory information ie sounds.
I did not always understand why this is the case but coming here has helped a lot. It has helped me to create some coping strategies in better dealing with different social situations and understanding my needs better. )
---------
> LD is the interference in processing some types information ie in spelling, reading, memory or math etc. <
Mdyar
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:59 am
Post subject:
Ddddd wrote:
I don't know how to interpret 'reading people' but...
My social anxiety is caused by being bullied a few years ago, and I think I was bullied because I didn't behave like the rest.
As far as I know nobody has ever lied to me and everyone's being honest, I don't use gestures unless I consciously do it (but that could also be a part of social anxiety?) so I don't read other people's gestures (except for obvious ones like '**** you' etc.) and I need other people's help to find out people's intentions (People use me quite often, according to a close friend). I don't know when someone's flirting, or how to flirt - never done that :p
I don't know what people think of me and it's really frustrating, causing me the anxiety, people always 'wear masks' and you have to know a lot about people if you want to figure them out (and I don't
). Sometimes friends surprise me by not letting me know anything anymore, when I considered them to be best friends. I've had problems with understanding terms like sarcasm, irony, subtlety, manipulating, naivety... I hope one of these things I said is the answer to your question
I think I have AS
, but if I don't, I think it's a mixture between AD(H)D, general anxiety disorder, social anxiety disorder and borderline personality disorder. Or I'm just a normal freak
I really suffer from all these things
Yes, it certainly looks that way.
Ddddd
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:08 am
Post subject:
I don't know how to interpret 'reading people' but...
My social anxiety is caused by being bullied a few years ago, and I think I was bullied because I didn't behave like the rest.
As far as I know nobody has ever lied to me and everyone's being honest, I don't use gestures unless I consciously do it (but that could also be a part of social anxiety?) so I don't read other people's gestures (except for obvious ones like '**** you' etc.) and I need other people's help to find out people's intentions (People use me quite often, according to a close friend). I don't know when someone's flirting, or how to flirt - never done that :p
I don't know what people think of me and it's really frustrating, causing me the anxiety, people always 'wear masks' and you have to know a lot about people if you want to figure them out (and I don't
). Sometimes friends surprise me by not letting me know anything anymore, when I considered them to be best friends. I've had problems with understanding terms like sarcasm, irony, subtlety, manipulating, naivety... I hope one of these things I said is the answer to your question
I think I have AS, but if I don't, I think it's a mixture between AD(H)D, general anxiety disorder, social anxiety disorder and borderline personality disorder. Or I'm just a normal freak
I really suffer from all these things
Mdyar
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:43 am
Post subject:
Ddddd wrote:
Can anxiety cause narrow interests/obsessions or over-analyzing/organizing (non-anxiety related aspie traits)?
Those narrow interests, though not part of the ADHD criteria, are or
can
be part of the disorder. I've seen that directly posted here, on other message boards, and in comments to blogs.
I certainly have them and can get into one dimensional routines. I call it 'stranded into executive dysfunctioning.' It's as if the one thought in your head supersedes outside influences and it is difficult to re- focus to get this
out of the way
.
It's really a tough and complicated question to dissect or parse out what a person
has
. But once
I
found information on ADHD
inattentive
it immediately gelled. Filled out an adult questionnaire and went from there.
Look up ADHD inattentive and read some papers on it and see if the shoe fits. Your one post line can fit it, with the exception of the
organizing
part.
Do you additionally have trouble reading people, aside from any interfering anxiety? If so, then maybe autism fits you......enough invested time here can unveil this,
eitherway
.
Ddddd
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:51 pm
Post subject:
Can anxiety cause narrow interests/obsessions or over-analyzing/organizing (non-anxiety related aspie traits)?
Phonic
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:20 pm
Post subject:
Various aspects of my giftedness lead to autistic traits, as have aspects of my depression, anxiety and psychosis.
lostgirl1986
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:10 pm
Post subject:
There could be ADHD, ADD, OCD, social anxiety, depression or any kind of learning disability. Some people are similar to people with Asperger's for example if you're an INTJ according to the Myers Brigg test.
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