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[quote="caveman2"]I suppose I use it too. But, what most people would mean by meeting is more intense, usually involving rapid response to literal or even metaphorical use of speech. Anyway mostly I have been drawn here by not wanting to be anywhere else. My definition of what is preferable is that two people find something to do or say that they would be doing even if alone. A sort of parallel almost virtual "meeting".[/quote]
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Raziel
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:25 am
Post subject:
sunshower wrote:
BigD84 wrote:
I really don't know what I am. All I know is that I have the ability to turn pain into something I like. I have never cut myself although, when I pop a zit, I go back and make sure all the puss is out. I am also a violinist so maybe that has something to do with it. Anyway, when I feel pain, it feels good after I feel the initial sensation. I'm not sure if the pain is turning to a good feeling at the same time as the good feeling, or just a split second after. I would very much like to find out what kind of person I am so that I may have peace of mind. If anybody can help with this, I'd be much obliged.
I think that this trait can be associated with ASD (autism/aspergers/autism spectrum disorders). When I am anxious popping pimples, scratching at my face, tearing pieces off my lips, scratching at my hair, chewing my nails to the stubs, etc. calms me down even though I am simultaneously causing myself pain. I don't really understand the mechanism of this but I think it is associated with other disorders but is also a disorder within itself (although is less frequently diagnosed as a separate disorder).
I have it with my teethridge. Having trouble to brush my teeth, but when something hurts there it feels good. Interestingly when I took antipsychotics for a short period of time I didn't have those trouble anymore.
So I guess with autistics it's primarily a sensation issue.
sunshower
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:59 am
Post subject:
BigD84 wrote:
I really don't know what I am. All I know is that I have the ability to turn pain into something I like. I have never cut myself although, when I pop a zit, I go back and make sure all the puss is out. I am also a violinist so maybe that has something to do with it. Anyway, when I feel pain, it feels good after I feel the initial sensation. I'm not sure if the pain is turning to a good feeling at the same time as the good feeling, or just a split second after. I would very much like to find out what kind of person I am so that I may have peace of mind. If anybody can help with this, I'd be much obliged.
I think that this trait can be associated with ASD (autism/aspergers/autism spectrum disorders). When I am anxious popping pimples, scratching at my face, tearing pieces off my lips, scratching at my hair, chewing my nails to the stubs, etc. calms me down even though I am simultaneously causing myself pain. I don't really understand the mechanism of this but I think it is associated with other disorders but is also a disorder within itself (although is less frequently diagnosed as a separate disorder).
BigD84
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:36 am
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I really don't know what I am. All I know is that I have the ability to turn pain into something I like. I have never cut myself although, when I pop a zit, I go back and make sure all the puss is out. I am also a violinist so maybe that has something to do with it. Anyway, when I feel pain, it feels good after I feel the initial sensation. I'm not sure if the pain is turning to a good feeling at the same time as the good feeling, or just a split second after. I would very much like to find out what kind of person I am so that I may have peace of mind. If anybody can help with this, I'd be much obliged.
Otherside
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:40 am
Post subject: Re: Glad to find people here who are like me
Nikki4u wrote:
I am so happy that I have found people who are just like me here. I was diagnosed with Bipolar 2 years ago. I don't like this at all. However, I have made up mind that this is something I will have to deal with and I am trying very hard to make changes because I don't want to be this way. Communicating and chatting with others helps me alot....
Nikki
Welcome.
Bipolar 2 here as well, and it is not fun. I don't like it much either. Nice to talk to other people with bipolar.
Nikki4u
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:24 pm
Post subject: Glad to find people here who are like me
I am so happy that I have found people who are just like me here. I was diagnosed with Bipolar 2 years ago. I don't like this at all. However, I have made up mind that this is something I will have to deal with and I am trying very hard to make changes because I don't want to be this way. Communicating and chatting with others helps me alot....
Nikki
Otherside
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:20 am
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I'm an ultrarapid cycler, my moods last days. I really need to get back to recording moods though. Man, I keep forgetting.
pensieve
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 3:01 am
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Raziel wrote:
How often to you cycle when you speak about rapid cycling?
Because I think I develeped rapid cycling, but my cycles still last several weeks at the moment.
It's difficult for me to describe because I think I'm dealing with many lengths of time, and cycles within cycles. I'm going through a depressive period. It's been pretty bad in the last four months. From my mood chart I seem to be changing daily. Off meds I seem to have longer lasting periods. I can be hypomanic over days and then cycle between one mood into another over minutes and seconds.
But with the meds it's hard to tell. Any of my level and motivated moods are on medication. I need to start charting only when I'm not on medication, but then, I forget. I didn't chart any of the hypomania I felt yesterday and then because of the stupid things I said I turned to regret, anger and finally depression.
Sometimes the symptoms will take away the meds effectiveness too. I can have a week and a half of barely feeling the meds because of hypomania. They tend to work better for depression.
I need to get better at keeping track of my moods.
sunshower
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 9:00 pm
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rapid cycling is 4+ episodes a year, ultra rapid cycling is days, ultra ultra rapid/ultradian cycling is more than one episode in a day. I tend to shift between ultra rapid and ultradian.
Raziel
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:07 am
Post subject:
pensieve wrote:
realityocean wrote:
hey pensive
for some reason the powers that be claim to have witnessed me in the throws of mania after undergoing several bouts of ect. psychosis was put into the mix via subjective statements from my wife. when the bp dx was made i wasn't in a fit state to query it. for 14 years i believed i was stable due to lithium, now would seem it did wonders for my depression which didn't respond to anti d's. i just went along with the dx until a few weeks ago when my new pdoc questioned it. now seems i might have an asd whilst suffering non-responsive depression and anxiety.
so there you have it, thats how i was bp 1 for 14 years? have to say that i too find it hard to believe they could have gotten me so wrong!!!
Thanks for clearing that up.
I think I have bipolar 1 with rapid cycling. I don't even want to admit to delusions because I don't think they are. I do have hallucinations though but they are not as prominent.
I'm trying to look for triggers to my rapid cycling but I'm finding it difficult. I can kind of stop it if I don't begin arguing or if I notice that I'm simply arguing because something triggered a mood and then I just pull away from it. I think the usual triggers could set off both.
How often to you cycle when you speak about rapid cycling?
Because I think I develeped rapid cycling, but my cycles still last several weeks at the moment.
pensieve
Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 1:12 am
Post subject:
realityocean wrote:
hey pensive
for some reason the powers that be claim to have witnessed me in the throws of mania after undergoing several bouts of ect. psychosis was put into the mix via subjective statements from my wife. when the bp dx was made i wasn't in a fit state to query it. for 14 years i believed i was stable due to lithium, now would seem it did wonders for my depression which didn't respond to anti d's. i just went along with the dx until a few weeks ago when my new pdoc questioned it. now seems i might have an asd whilst suffering non-responsive depression and anxiety.
so there you have it, thats how i was bp 1 for 14 years? have to say that i too find it hard to believe they could have gotten me so wrong!!!
Thanks for clearing that up.
I think I have bipolar 1 with rapid cycling. I don't even want to admit to delusions because I don't think they are. I do have hallucinations though but they are not as prominent.
I'm trying to look for triggers to my rapid cycling but I'm finding it difficult. I can kind of stop it if I don't begin arguing or if I notice that I'm simply arguing because something triggered a mood and then I just pull away from it. I think the usual triggers could set off both.
realityocean
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:44 pm
Post subject:
hey pensive
for some reason the powers that be claim to have witnessed me in the throws of mania after undergoing several bouts of ect. psychosis was put into the mix via subjective statements from my wife. when the bp dx was made i wasn't in a fit state to query it. for 14 years i believed i was stable due to lithium, now would seem it did wonders for my depression which didn't respond to anti d's. i just went along with the dx until a few weeks ago when my new pdoc questioned it. now seems i might have an asd whilst suffering non-responsive depression and anxiety.
so there you have it, thats how i was bp 1 for 14 years? have to say that i too find it hard to believe they could have gotten me so wrong!!!
pensieve
Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 2:23 am
Post subject:
realityocean wrote:
i am at this time battling to come to terms with a massive change in my life.
14 years ago i was dianosed with bipolar 1, my pdoc has been conducting dianostic interviews for the past month and yesterday he overturned my bipolar dx, seems he is placing me in the autism spectrum. 56 years and trying to come to terms with this, does explain a lot, far more than a dx for bp ever did.
i don't think for one minute that my experience is unique but i am hoping it will help me to share it with others who may know how i might get through the transition from bp to aspie.
Interesting misdiagnosis to get. I always thought BP1 is when you have full mania and delusions. I'm unsure how a doctor could mistake an ASD for that. Maybe I just have a limited view of BP1.
realityocean
Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 4:35 pm
Post subject:
i am at this time battling to come to terms with a massive change in my life.
14 years ago i was dianosed with bipolar 1, my pdoc has been conducting dianostic interviews for the past month and yesterday he overturned my bipolar dx, seems he is placing me in the autism spectrum. 56 years and trying to come to terms with this, does explain a lot, far more than a dx for bp ever did.
i don't think for one minute that my experience is unique but i am hoping it will help me to share it with others who may know how i might get through the transition from bp to aspie.
Raziel
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:31 am
Post subject:
pensieve wrote:
PTSD probably doesn't come with hypomania though? Although I used to think I got so stressed by something that I'd have a seizure then I'd be hyperactive the next day. More than my usual amount. I'd blurt things out that were rude and people would laugh. I'd have a lack of awareness and not have any interest in what people say. It could related to the seizure. I'm just not sure now.
I don't need to have a seizure for that to happen though. I can wake up like that or it'll just hit me, usually in the early evening. There's a lot more of it without meds unless I'm depressed. I could start out one morning depressed and then be hyper by the evening and vice versa.
I don't know if it is PTSD as my psychiatrist didn't even do any assessment to find out. I've always been afraid of people. When I was 14 a drunk came into the house and since then I've been afraid to answer the door on my own. For the first 5-6 months I felt safe for the first time in my new town. Then one night when I was experiencing some lack of self esteem socially the next day I pretty much wanted to walk in the middle of the road to die. I was severely depressed and walked in the rain home. Tried to take a shortcut and almost got mugged by people I knew beat someone up for their money. I saw it on the news the day before.
I mean I got the flashbacks badly for a few months. They come back from time to time but aren't as clear. I've had nightmares since the drunk man came into my home.
News stories can trigger the anxiety but sometimes I wonder if my usual fear was just made worse.
No, PTSD doesn't go along with hypomania, but with moodswings who are very common in PTSD patients and can look very simmilar to Bipolar sometimes, that's why it is difficult to sort things out especially when you aren't a clear cut case.
When you aren't sure, the best thing you can do is to get a second opinion.
pensieve
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:22 am
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PTSD probably doesn't come with hypomania though? Although I used to think I got so stressed by something that I'd have a seizure then I'd be hyperactive the next day. More than my usual amount. I'd blurt things out that were rude and people would laugh. I'd have a lack of awareness and not have any interest in what people say. It could related to the seizure. I'm just not sure now.
I don't need to have a seizure for that to happen though. I can wake up like that or it'll just hit me, usually in the early evening. There's a lot more of it without meds unless I'm depressed. I could start out one morning depressed and then be hyper by the evening and vice versa.
I don't know if it is PTSD as my psychiatrist didn't even do any assessment to find out. I've always been afraid of people. When I was 14 a drunk came into the house and since then I've been afraid to answer the door on my own. For the first 5-6 months I felt safe for the first time in my new town. Then one night when I was experiencing some lack of self esteem socially the next day I pretty much wanted to walk in the middle of the road to die. I was severely depressed and walked in the rain home. Tried to take a shortcut and almost got mugged by people I knew beat someone up for their money. I saw it on the news the day before.
I mean I got the flashbacks badly for a few months. They come back from time to time but aren't as clear. I've had nightmares since the drunk man came into my home.
News stories can trigger the anxiety but sometimes I wonder if my usual fear was just made worse.
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