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[quote="NTAndrew"]I don't have a problem with the term "neurotypical." I included it as part of my screen name because when I got on this site, I did not want to give people the impression that I was anything but an outsider here. Little did I know that the more I learned, the more I related to the people here, and the more Aspie I felt. All of the on-line tests show that I am a neurotypical, but I feel anything but typical, either in the outside world or here. I think the intent of the OP was to pathologize what is seen as neurotypical behavior, in an attempt to feel superior to neurotypical oppressors.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Joker</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:48 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">[quote="Rainy"]</span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>DogsWithoutHorses wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />Um, your first assertion is untrue. <br /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />If your behavior isn't disruptive or problamatic to others or yourself, no one really cares if you have Aspergers. <br /> <br />Not true at all Mr. Rain the members of WP do in fact care that he has Aspergers <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Rainy</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:46 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>DogsWithoutHorses wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />Um, your first assertion is untrue. <br /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />If your behavior isn't disruptive or problamatic to others or yourself, no one really cares if you have Aspergers. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />Your second is arguing a point never made. Globally white people are a minority and they are a privileged class. <br /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />That depends on the place and time period, and it's really not true anymore in most modernized places. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />It's not the fact that there are more Allistic Neurotypicals than Autistics that make them privileged. And being a minority is not what makes us oppressed, <br />our murders serving less jail time than murders of allistic victims makes us oppressed <br />living in a society that refuses to accommodate sensory issues makes us oppressed <br />a media that mocks, misrepresents, or just plain doesn't represent us makes us oppressed <br />being underemployed makes us oppressed <br />being abused more often than non-autistic peers makes us oppressed <br />Really being anything other than an able bodied, neurotypical, heterosexual, white, cis man means you sit on at leas one axis of oppression. <br />That is just the way it works, recognize and deal with the act that life is unfair. <br /> <br />Autism is a disability (albeit I subscribe to the social model of disability, so it's not an inherent disadvantage) and disabled people are marginalized. <br /> <br />All of this is really besides the point which is it's just as valid to say neurotypical person as it is to say neurodivergent person. These two things are simply the inverse of the other.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Maybe you should consider that it's your behavior, not your Aspergers, that causes some of these problems. And some of these problems aren't even true.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Joker</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:40 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Sweetleaf wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Joker wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Sweetleaf wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Joker wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Rainy wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I fail to see how the term NT has anything to do with bullies and your persecution delusion.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />NT hint those with out autism will pick on those that have it and are more then likley to do so then other people with autism don't and rarley never pick on each other <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Most NTs don't even know how to tell wether or not someone has autism anyways...bullies seem to pick on people with percieved differences or weaknesses or whatever. But keep in mind not all NTs are bullies and its not often about NT's vs those with autism. <br /> <br />when I was a kid no one knew I had any sort of autism, so that is not why they were picking on me...it was simply being significantly different from them it happens to people without autism to.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />When you are placed in a class in school that is for kids with autism they can tell you have it otherwise they would not even bother teasing you about it.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Yes if they know about it they might, I was just implying its not only people with autism that get treated that way, In my case though technically it was more more or less the autism, I did not know I had it nor did anyone else so to their knowledge they where not picking on me because I was autistic they were picking on me because I seemed weird...so I guess my main point is having autism is not the only reason people get harrassed by teachers and classmates.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I guess I worded it wrong I meant that I was only speaking for myself and not other people with autism only myself.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Sweetleaf</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:39 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Joker wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Sweetleaf wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Joker wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Rainy wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I fail to see how the term NT has anything to do with bullies and your persecution delusion.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />NT hint those with out autism will pick on those that have it and are more then likley to do so then other people with autism don't and rarley never pick on each other <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Most NTs don't even know how to tell wether or not someone has autism anyways...bullies seem to pick on people with percieved differences or weaknesses or whatever. But keep in mind not all NTs are bullies and its not often about NT's vs those with autism. <br /> <br />when I was a kid no one knew I had any sort of autism, so that is not why they were picking on me...it was simply being significantly different from them it happens to people without autism to.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />When you are placed in a class in school that is for kids with autism they can tell you have it otherwise they would not even bother teasing you about it.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Yes if they know about it they might, I was just implying its not only people with autism that get treated that way, In my case though technically it was more more or less the autism, I did not know I had it nor did anyone else so to their knowledge they where not picking on me because I was autistic they were picking on me because I seemed weird...so I guess my main point is having autism is not the only reason people get harrassed by teachers and classmates.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Joker</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:55 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Sweetleaf wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Joker wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Rainy wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I fail to see how the term NT has anything to do with bullies and your persecution delusion.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />NT hint those with out autism will pick on those that have it and are more then likley to do so then other people with autism don't and rarley never pick on each other <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Most NTs don't even know how to tell wether or not someone has autism anyways...bullies seem to pick on people with percieved differences or weaknesses or whatever. But keep in mind not all NTs are bullies and its not often about NT's vs those with autism. <br /> <br />when I was a kid no one knew I had any sort of autism, so that is not why they were picking on me...it was simply being significantly different from them it happens to people without autism to.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />When you are placed in a class in school that is for kids with autism they can tell you have it otherwise they would not even bother teasing you about it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Sweetleaf</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:40 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Joker wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Rainy wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I fail to see how the term NT has anything to do with bullies and your persecution delusion.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />NT hint those with out autism will pick on those that have it and are more then likley to do so then other people with autism don't and rarley never pick on each other <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Most NTs don't even know how to tell wether or not someone has autism anyways...bullies seem to pick on people with percieved differences or weaknesses or whatever. But keep in mind not all NTs are bullies and its not often about NT's vs those with autism. <br /> <br />when I was a kid no one knew I had any sort of autism, so that is not why they were picking on me...it was simply being significantly different from them it happens to people without autism to.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Joker</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:36 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Rainy wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I fail to see how the term NT has anything to do with bullies and your persecution delusion.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />NT hint those with out autism will pick on those that have it and are more then likley to do so then other people with autism don't and rarley never pick on each other <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>DogsWithoutHorses</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:31 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Rainy wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">A person with Aspergers is allowed to do anything a person with NT is. Being in the majority isn't a priviledge, nor is being in the minority oppression.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Um, your first assertion is untrue. Also, no one has NT, they are NT. and Personally, I do not have aspergers, I am an autistic person. <br />Your second is arguing a point never made. Globally white people are a minority and they are a privileged class. It's not the fact that there are more Allistic Neurotypicals than Autistics that make them privileged. And being a minority is not what makes us oppressed, <br />our murders serving less jail time than murders of allistic victims makes us oppressed <br />living in a society that refuses to accommodate sensory issues makes us oppressed <br />a media that mocks, misrepresents, or just plain doesn't represent us makes us oppressed <br />being underemployed makes us oppressed <br />being abused more often than non-autistic peers makes us oppressed <br />Really being anything other than an able bodied, neurotypical, heterosexual, white, cis man means you sit on at leas one axis of oppression. <br />That is just the way it works, recognize and deal with the act that life is unfair. <br /> <br />Autism is a disability (albeit I subscribe to the social model of disability, so it's not an inherent disadvantage) and disabled people are marginalized. <br /> <br />All of this is really besides the point which is it's just as valid to say neurotypical person as it is to say neurodivergent person. These two things are simply the inverse of the other.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Sparkstorm</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:33 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>DogsWithoutHorses wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Neurotypical people live in a society that is designed for them, they get to experience life as the majority, people like them make up most of governing bodies, most media they're exposed to includes people like them, tey are not institutionalized for their neurotype, they are not discriminated against for their neurotype, they benefit from systems that hold neurotypical behaviors and strengths above neuro-divergent behaviors and strengths even if they don't activley participate in this system they are complicit. <br /> <br />This is privilege, privilege is not having to fill in the blank in from of the word person when your describing yourself. <br />Taking away the assumption of normality from neurotypical people is actively fighting oppression and marginalization. It puts everyone on equal linguistic footing and that is a good start.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Fair point with the privilege thing. I was thinking more mentally, in which case many autistic people (particularly those with HFA) are on the up. <br /> <br />But society does do that. It just writes us off as disabled. Most NTs are making no effort to create a neurodiverse society, they don't want to hear from us. If they hear something they don't like from us, they can either say "ignore it" on the grounds that we are autistic, or try to use autism as another metaphorical arrow in the metaphorical quiver when they respond, usually in this case with a series of angry, vulgar, abusive grunts. <br /> <br />Sorry, I'm feeling a bit bitter today, it may have come across in that post.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Rainy</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:24 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">A person with Aspergers is allowed to do anything a person with NT is. Being in the majority isn't a priviledge, nor is being in the minority oppression.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>DogsWithoutHorses</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:08 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Sparkstorm wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I tend to use "NT" only for bullies and curebies (and only privately, for safety's sake). Non-Autistic people who are generally nice enough, as far as I'm concerned, don't really need a special word. They're just people, and usually decent people. I realise that there is some contradiction there, considering that these people are, in my experience, more common than bullies and curebies, but "neurotypical" does sound quite derogatory, so I think it's the bullies and curebies that deserve it. <br /> <br />EDIT: <br />I also don't think NTs are particularly privileged.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Well then you're using the word a little incorrectly it only means "non- neurodivergent" it has it's own word because neurodivergent v. non- neurodivergent sets up a dichotomy where one is "normal/better" and the other is less than. Same reason there is a word for non-autistic (allistic) a word for non trans* (cis) and word for non gay (straight). It's not a special word, it's an accurate descriptor. <br />Just like it's accurate to say I'm autistic. That doesn't mean I'n not "just a person, and usually a decent one" <br /> <br />This is a way to describe differences between people without deeming some people as deviencies from an imaginary norm. <br /> <br />Neurotypical people live in a society that is designed for them, they get to experience life as the majority, people like them make up most of governing bodies, most media they're exposed to includes people like them, tey are not institutionalized for their neurotype, they are not discriminated against for their neurotype, they benefit from systems that hold neurotypical behaviors and strengths above neuro-divergent behaviors and strengths even if they don't activley participate in this system they are complicit. <br /> <br />This is privilege, privilege is not having to fill in the blank in from of the word person when your describing yourself. <br />Taking away the assumption of normality from neurotypical people is actively fighting oppression and marginalization. It puts everyone on equal linguistic footing and that is a good start.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Sparkstorm</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:12 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I tend to use "NT" only for bullies and curebies (and only privately, for safety's sake). Non-Autistic people who are generally nice enough, as far as I'm concerned, don't really need a special word. They're just people, and usually decent people. I realise that there is some contradiction there, considering that these people are, in my experience, more common than bullies and curebies, but "neurotypical" does sound quite derogatory, so I think it's the bullies and curebies that deserve it. <br /> <br />EDIT: <br />I also don't think NTs are particularly privileged.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>DogsWithoutHorses</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:09 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>AutisticBelle wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Okay, now I feel bad. I don't think I really ever use Neuro Typical as a derogatory classifaction, but I sould probably be more careful from now on. After all, I would not like it if people started calling me "Retard" or something. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_cry.gif" alt="Crying or Very sad" border="0" /> <br />I am now properly chastised.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /> Neurotypical is not a slur, it refers to a privileged group. It's absolutely nothing like the word retard.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AutisticBelle</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:02 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Okay, now I feel bad. I don't think I really ever use Neuro Typical as a derogatory classifaction, but I sould probably be more careful from now on. After all, I would not like it if people started calling me "Retard" or something. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_cry.gif" alt="Crying or Very sad" border="0" /> <br />I am now properly chastised.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Rainy</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:15 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I fail to see how the term NT has anything to do with bullies and your persecution delusion.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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