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[quote="Pondering"]My heart jumps and beats fast when the people who abused me are loud. I get really stressed, can't help to stop it, I'm not afraid of them but it still happens. I think it's the noise, their noise really bothers me, it's loud. I was verbally abused on more than rare occasions, loudly, some times while being physically abused many times. It really bothers me. Stress lasts awhile, it takes me over for bit. Other loud people aren't as much a problem as it is with those who abused me. I feel like I may need strong meds or really good therapy in order to calm down. It's really bad and happens every time. It has been many years since the abuse, but I still feel something. I don't know if this is the place to post this. I would post on a PTSD forum, but the popular ones I looked don't seem very member friendly.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Sweetleaf</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:35 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>YourMajesty wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">I'm certainly not trivializing your issues, but as far as I understood, PTSD is a very grave disorder with distinct characteristics like flashbacks, panic attacks, and so forth. Abuse is bad, but as far as I know, not PTSD triggering unless it was extremely shocking and/or incredibly vile or violent. Things like war leave people with PTSD (think of WW I) or seeing someone jump in front of a train. Intense stress or fear of dying during an extended period of time may trigger it too. <br /> <br />Abuse, in whatever form, leaves people often with scars. I have them too. But suffering from it, and feeling pain over it, isn't a trauma yet. I don't deny the fact that suffering leaves concequences.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />From what I've read abuse certainly can cause PTSD...it depends on how traumatic the event is to the individual not really so much how traumatic society says it is, everyone reacts to things differently what might give one person PTSD might not have that effect on someone else. There are also genetic factors and some mental illnesses like Depression and Anxiety can increase the risk for developing PTSD. But yeah because mine was caused by a student at my school getting shot, but I was not in the room I tried to ignore my symptoms because I was thinking 'I didn't even see it why should I have PTSD?' well no there's no denying I have it now because apparently the longer it goes untreated the worse and harder to treat it gets. <br /> <br />I certainly cannot say whether or not the OP for sure has anxiety or PTSD, but if it is, assuming something like abuse can't cause it is not very helpful. Then instead of just an increased heart rate and feeling really stressed...it will come with panic attacks, flashbacks, feeling totally dead inside and all kinds of other horrible things I wouldn't wish on anyone.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>YourMajesty</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:09 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'm certainly not trivializing your issues, but as far as I understood, PTSD is a very grave disorder with distinct characteristics like flashbacks, panic attacks, and so forth. Abuse is bad, but as far as I know, not PTSD triggering unless it was extremely shocking and/or incredibly vile or violent. Things like war leave people with PTSD (think of WW I) or seeing someone jump in front of a train. Intense stress or fear of dying during an extended period of time may trigger it too. <br /> <br />Abuse, in whatever form, leaves people often with scars. I have them too. But suffering from it, and feeling pain over it, isn't a trauma yet. I don't deny the fact that suffering leaves concequences.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Sweetleaf</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:42 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>FlintsDoorknob wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">From my understanding PTSD has a lot of other severe diagnostic criteria. It sounds like you have anxiety problems though. PTSD is just a really severe anxiety disorder when you are put in traumatic situations where you feel that your life is in danger. It stops you from functioning. <br /> <br />It does sound like you do have major anxiety problems, and issues with bullies. Is that the case, or is it something like your family members abusing you? You need to get help with those situations either way.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Well PTSD can stop you from functioning normally........what what it basically does is put your body in survival mode when you get triggered, and you don't have to actually be in a situation you feel you are in danger for it to happen something can just remind you of the situations that caused the PTSD or it might just seem to come out of nowhere. But yes it is an anxiety disorder. <br /> <br />To the OP, why are you living with the people who abused you? and do you have any other options you are aware of?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>FlintsDoorknob</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:06 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">From my understanding PTSD has a lot of other severe diagnostic criteria. It sounds like you have anxiety problems though. PTSD is just a really severe anxiety disorder when you are put in traumatic situations where you feel that your life is in danger. It stops you from functioning. <br /> <br />It does sound like you do have major anxiety problems, and issues with bullies. Is that the case, or is it something like your family members abusing you? You need to get help with those situations either way.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>OliveOilMom</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:16 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Pondering wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Rainy wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">If it's only a big issue with the people who "abused" you, then don't hang out around them? Or you could try asking them not to be so loud.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">I am working on that, but for now I'm sort of "stuck" here. I will still have to come in contact with these people, but I will have the choice later on if and when I come in contact with them. So yes, I plan on not hanging around them some time, when I can. Right now I can't and I have to live with it. They are naturally loud people, negative tone, don't care about anyone else when it comes to being loud... It sucks. I can hear them two floors up and behind two doors, as well as outside the house. They won't be quiet because they have lived being so loud and angry for so long, it's seemingly natural to them. If I asked them they would respond in a rude manner.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />So what if they respond in a rude manner? Be rude back. Shout back, yell back, don't take crap from them. I'm assuming it's someone in your family that you are living with. It's ok to yell at family members. That happens in every family. People sometimes get mad and say hurtful things. It happens. You being rude back won't cause the world to end or the sky to fall, it's ok to speak up and say whats on your mind. Everybody has that right.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Sweetleaf</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:18 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">It's certainly possible though if you can I would try and talk to a psychologist or something, because the sooner you get help with it the better. I have it, not from abuse but something else that I don't want to bring up at this moment...but yeah I tried to just ignore/work around the symptoms because I just wanted to move on with my life since I was finally done with highschool. But that only made it worse. <br /> <br />So you mostly mention these people yelling make you anxious is that the only thing so far that causes the quicker heart rate? If so then that is probably a good thing, but yeah I really recommend possibly looking into the therapy and meds, though do be careful about meds unfortunatly the only one I trust is illegal unless I can get a prescription recomendation for it. But yeah I should have had this adressed 6 years ago...but I didn't so now its gotten worse instead of just having a few of the symptoms like before I pretty much have them all and I learned in psychology the longer it goes untreated the harder it is to treat. So yeah it sucks for me but hopefully this is of some help. Also if nothing else at least try and look up information about things you can do yourself to help with it on the internet or at the library if you can't afford therapy. Oh also I understand getting away from such people is easier said than done, but do your best to try and get away from them as soon as possible.....but yeah I don't have the most awesome home situation either though I don't know I suffered any real abuse...maybe some negative treatment but not nessisarily abuse. But either way I am uncomfortable there, and typically my moms boyfriend is there making all kinds of noise and maybe yelling at my brother or him and my mom might be arguing...otherwise people are just being to loud walking up and down stairs so I end up staying at a friends house much of the time.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pondering</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:18 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Rainy wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">If it's only a big issue with the people who "abused" you, then don't hang out around them? Or you could try asking them not to be so loud.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">I am working on that, but for now I'm sort of "stuck" here. I will still have to come in contact with these people, but I will have the choice later on if and when I come in contact with them. So yes, I plan on not hanging around them some time, when I can. Right now I can't and I have to live with it. They are naturally loud people, negative tone, don't care about anyone else when it comes to being loud... It sucks. I can hear them two floors up and behind two doors, as well as outside the house. They won't be quiet because they have lived being so loud and angry for so long, it's seemingly natural to them. If I asked them they would respond in a rude manner.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Rainy</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:52 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">If it's only a big issue with the people who "abused" you, then don't hang out around them? Or you could try asking them not to be so loud.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pondering</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:43 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: PTSD maybe?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">My heart jumps and beats fast when the people who abused me are loud. I get really stressed, can't help to stop it, I'm not afraid of them but it still happens. I think it's the noise, their noise really bothers me, it's loud. I was verbally abused on more than rare occasions, loudly, some times while being physically abused many times. It really bothers me. Stress lasts awhile, it takes me over for bit. Other loud people aren't as much a problem as it is with those who abused me. I feel like I may need strong meds or really good therapy in order to calm down. It's really bad and happens every time. It has been many years since the abuse, but I still feel something. <br /> <br />I don't know if this is the place to post this. I would post on a PTSD forum, but the popular ones I looked don't seem very member friendly.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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