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[quote="ValentineWiggin"]Fruit juices are usually just glorified sugar water. Why not eat an orange? Or some veggies?[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Intravenus</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:11 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">In Japan they have rice with a raw egg poured in or fish for breakfast. It's only a cultural thing that we have sweet food for breakfast!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ValentineWiggin</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:15 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Delphiki wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>ValentineWiggin wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Fruit juices are usually just glorified sugar water. <br />Why not eat an orange? <br />Or some veggies?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I should. Veggies sound weird to eat with breakfast, damn social constructs. I agree with you to a certain extent about juice. I will try adding 2 clementines, and possibly substituting the 8oz of orange juice for 16oz of water. One step at a time. <br /> <br />Main reason I don't eat oranges is the peel tastes bad, but I will eat clementines because very little of the peel sticks to the fruit.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Yeah. I've never really seen the logic in most obsessive NT "rules" when it comes to food/cooking. I've eaten a good many salads doused in hot sauce, stir fries straight from the wok, and meals of an entire head of cauliflower. My personal rule for meals: something I like (vegan, low-calorie) covered in flavors I like (spicy or salty).</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Delphiki</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:13 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>ValentineWiggin wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Fruit juices are usually just glorified sugar water. <br />Why not eat an orange? <br />Or some veggies?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I should. Veggies sound weird to eat with breakfast, damn social constructs. I agree with you to a certain extent about juice. I will try adding 2 clementines, and possibly substituting the 8oz of orange juice for 16oz of water. One step at a time. <br /> <br />Main reason I don't eat oranges is the peel tastes bad, but I will eat clementines because very little of the peel sticks to the fruit.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ValentineWiggin</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:06 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Fruit juices are usually just glorified sugar water. <br />Why not eat an orange? <br />Or some veggies?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Delphiki</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:22 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Well I have now slightly changed what I plan to have daily for breakfast. <br /> <br />Oatmeal, with 1% milk <br />4 eggs (no cheese or ham) <br />8oz of orange juice. <br /> <br />And I feel like I could eat 6 more eggs if I wanted too, so I am not stuffing myself.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Gravechylde</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:08 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">What are your goals for adding in more food for breakfast? <br /> <br />And saturated fat is not actually your enemy, high blood sugar is. <br /><object width="660" height="405"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/aCkQdPZjF-Y"></param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/aCkQdPZjF-Y&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6&border=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="660" height="405"></embed></object><br /><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=aCkQdPZjF-Y&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6&border=0" target="_blank"></a><br /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Gita</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:13 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Being 10 pounds under the low average weight is probably a pretty healthy place to be. "Slightly underweight" is not "unhealthy." Under weight people who are not grossly underweight have a longer life span and do not usually get the dietary diseases of heart disease, diabetes, stroke, or many cancers. I think as far as what you eat, you should look at your energy needs. Some people are endomorphs which is pretty much "skinny for life." Your age also works into how much you can eat. If you are under about 25 years old, you are still considered to be growing. You need to eat according to your growth needs. After about 25, you need to back off on food. People should eat less than they ate as teenagers when they are adult. This does not happen and leads to obesity. <br /> <br />Anyway, I think you are getting far too much protein and fats (whether saturated or not) meat+eggs=protein powder+milk+ the protein that comes in oats. No one needs to eat more than about 1 tsp of un-saturaded fat per day. Most meat servings have more than this. <br /> <br />I think Delphiki's health class gave a very high percentage of fat. 62.5 grams is a huge amount. I would personally not want to go more than 10-15 grams. <br /> <br />I personally think that you should eat no more than 1/2 to 1/3 cup of oat meal (cooked) and maybe a banana, which is also a good mid morning snack. <br /> <br />I think the advice I have found to help me figure out meal sizes is that you should never eat more per meal than the size of your fist when balled up. That is the size of a healthy -- un-stretched out-- stomach of an average person. For me that is about a measuring cup of something like beans, and maybe a slice of bread. You only need a small amount of protein and/or fat to live, and all plants have a little protein in them. Your daily food should be mostly vegetable matter (like the rolled oats). <br /> <br />Anyway, although I have read a lot about diet, some of what I wrote above are conclusions that come from both reading, advice and experimentation.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Delphiki</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:21 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I can eat 4 eggs and it feels like nothing. I am not gorging myself, I usually feel a little hungry after I eat what I normally do. <br /> <br />jumbo oats? And the oatmeal doesn't actually look like that much, I just pour in what looks like a good amount then add milk. I only know that it is 3-4x serving size because the 30 serving canister was being eaten in 7-10 days. I will check how much saturated fat and post it. about 4 years ago in health class we did a nutrition unit. It said I was allowed to have 62.5 grams of fat a day. My height and weight are a little higher sense then but I am still about 10lbs under the low average weight. <br /> <br />I looked at the saturated fat content. 4 eggs is 32%, oz of cheese (as a guess) is 25%. The meat (4 slices of ham) was 3%. I will go with out cheese today then, will look into the no yolk</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Mummy_of_Peanut</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:37 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">That sounds like an awful lot to eat - the 4 eggs especially. If you're eating meat (and you are) that's way too much saturated fat, if you're going to be eating like this regularly. Egg white is where the protein is, so you could make an egg white omelette. Instead of that huge amount of oatmeal, why not take half that amount of oatmeal (or preferably exchange it for jumbo oats) and add some nuts/seeds/fresh fruit/dried fruit.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>snapcap</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:05 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: What I am having for breakfast tomorrow!</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Delphiki wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">8oz of orange juice <br />oatmeal- 3-4x serving size and I use milk (and some cinnamon) <br />4 scrambled eggs with 4 slices of ham mixed into it and some muenster cheese, dunno how much cheese I put in. <br />fish oil pill and vitamin too <br /> <br />I think I will start having that for breakfast every morning (first 2 and vitamins I already do) <br /> <br />I should probably add a fruit (clementine or 2, half or a whole banana, or an apple) <br />And I am thinking of adding 16oz of milk with protein powder to it. <br /> <br />Would this be healthy? thoughts? I am skinny and am trying to go to the gym to shoot hoops regularly. And to try to get the willpower to do stuff like push ups at home.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Hope you don't eat all that too close to when you decide to work out, or you'll be puking in the basket. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Delphiki</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:13 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Shaping my daily breakfast</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">what I had for breakfast today <br />8oz of orange juice <br />oatmeal- 3-4x serving size and I use milk (and some cinnamon) <br />4 scrambled eggs with 4 slices of ham mixed into it and some muenster cheese, dunno how much cheese I put in. <br />fish oil pill and vitamin too <br /> <br />I think I will start having that for breakfast every morning (first 2 and vitamins I already do) <br /> <br />I should probably add a fruit (clementine or 2, half or a whole banana, or an apple) <br />And I am thinking of adding 16oz of milk with protein powder to it. <br /> <br />Would this be healthy? thoughts? I am skinny and am trying to go to the gym to shoot hoops regularly. And to try to get the willpower to do stuff like push ups at home.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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