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[quote="jackbus01"]I am glad to hear you are doing better. I try to keep track of objective things like: how many hours I sleep, how often I eat etc., for me that sometimes helps to figure out if I am starting having a mood swing. I also listen to feedback from others. It doesn't [i]always[/i] work, but my brain shifts mood and really don't know why until way [i]after[/i] the fact. You might want to continue staying on a mood stabilizer though.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>jackbus01</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 2:15 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I am glad to hear you are doing better. <br /> <br />I try to keep track of objective things like: how many hours I sleep, how often I eat etc., for me that sometimes helps to figure out if I am starting having a mood swing. I also listen to feedback from others. It doesn't <span style="font-style: italic">always</span> work, but my brain shifts mood and really don't know why until way <span style="font-style: italic">after</span> the fact. You might want to continue staying on a mood stabilizer though.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>slave</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:34 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>TallyMan wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>slave wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">How often can you identify a trigger?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Sometimes, but on other occasions there is a sense of something being wrong that I can't put my finger on - almost a sense of dread or foreboding about things. I think the word "trigger" can be a bit misleading because it implies it is the <span style="text-decoration: underline">cause </span>of a sudden mood shift, whereas I think the brain/mind has <span style="text-decoration: underline">already </span>shifted in such a way as to predispose it to a small trigger having a disproportionate effect on mood.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />My cerebral Veterinarian has come to believe that each shift in mood is in response to a trigger. These triggers can be extremely subtle from sounds and smells to even bodily postures and so on. I don't know what to believe because I rarely sense a trigger although sometimes in hindsight I can see them. <br /> <br /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>TallyMan</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:01 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>slave wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">How often can you identify a trigger?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Sometimes, but on other occasions there is a sense of something being wrong that I can't put my finger on - almost a sense of dread or foreboding about things. I think the word "trigger" can be a bit misleading because it implies it is the <span style="text-decoration: underline">cause </span>of a sudden mood shift, whereas I think the brain/mind has <span style="text-decoration: underline">already </span>shifted in such a way as to predispose it to a small trigger having a disproportionate effect on mood.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>slave</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:50 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>TallyMan wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Thanks for the positive wishes folks. I'm OK at the moment. That is the thing with cyclothymia - you can be fine for days, weeks or months then suddenly at rock bottom and suicidal with only a small trigger. Similarly with the highs, combined with Aspie special interests they can be really good times, living focussed on something and hardly sleeping due to the fascination and wonderment with the subject.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />How often can you identify a trigger?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Asp-Z</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:41 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Sounds a lot like me, I'm seeing a doctor soon because I probably have some sort of bipolar too. I know how all that feels, when you feel down just think of the good times and remember they will be back <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>TallyMan</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:09 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Thanks for the positive wishes folks. I'm OK at the moment. That is the thing with cyclothymia - you can be fine for days, weeks or months then suddenly at rock bottom and suicidal with only a small trigger. Similarly with the highs, combined with Aspie special interests they can be really good times, living focussed on something and hardly sleeping due to the fascination and wonderment with the subject.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Asp-Z</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:58 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">To quote Stephen Fry (who also has cyclothymia): "The mood is your own personal weather, and it's very like the weather: if you go outside and it's raining, it is real, you can't walk it off and suddenly it's sunny, the weather makes up its own mind... We all know that it can be a damn nuisance when it's raining, but the sun will come out... It will become incredibly sunny." <br /> <br />Hang in there <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>slave</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 9:35 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'm glad your status is reasonable at the moment. I wish that you were not suffering as you are. <br /> <br />Peace to you.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>TallyMan</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 8:25 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>slave wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Tallyman, <br /> <br />How are you doing now? <br /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /></td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I'm OK at the moment. No depression and I'm off the medication, just taking the occasional mood stabiliser when necessary. Still up and down but within reasonable limits. I do think that eventually the cyclothymia + Aspergers will be the death of me though, it is just a matter of time; but hopefully not for a good number of years yet. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>slave</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:36 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Tallyman, <br /> <br />How are you doing now? <br /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>JoeRose</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:11 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hey there TallyMan! <br /> <br />I can definitely relate to this post. I'm self-diagnosed cyclothymic although whenever I have a mental status examination with a psych it always mentions hypomania and depression. So I don't know whether they've diagnosed me and just not told me! (Not sure how diagnosis works out in England... I think they only diagnose you once you've completely fallen off the rails. Which I've never done)!. <br />anyway, I can relate to a lot of what you've said. What I find helps me on the blue days is remembering that it WILL get better again. As much as it feels it won't and that nothing could ever get better - you learn from experience that it always does. So you've just got to keep telling yourself that the depression is only temporary. That's what I find helps anyway <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" /> <br /> <br />Hope you're feeling better, <br />Joe</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Kyra71</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:45 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'm late to this thread, but glad you're feeling better! I have bipolar & AS, and it's a constant struggle for me too. But always heartening to see that what goes down <span style="font-style: italic">does</span> come back up eventually... I hope you're in for a better phase (and that it lasts a good long time!)</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>qwan</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:32 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I think I have cyclothymia. I'm dx by the Gp or someone with it anyway, if that counts. *shrugs* <br />I've had such fast cycling. Like one time I was up and down within minutes. 15 minutes I was hyper the next 15 I was suicidal. It didn't help that during my hyper stage I was begining to have a sugar crash but was too busy to eat, so when I got all down the sugar crash reached its peak and I was shaking and feeling sick and crying. Then they started blurring and I was having a mixed episode and my mom came in and got scared. =/ <br /> <br />It passed soon enough but was horrible. <br /> <br />I think my anti-depressants make my mood shifts more frequent but I don't want mood stabilisers in case I'll never be hypomanic again; because I go years without knowing when the last time I was happy was. And when I'm hypomanic, I know what it feels like to be kinda happy. I don't like the idea of getting rid of that to balance it out. >_< <br />It's not always that bad, but mixed episodes are the worst thing. I think I'm going insane. =/ <br /> <br />Glad you're feeling a bit better now TallyMan. I'm sure it's a case of getting used to the meds and retraining your brain to deal with the extra (theoretical) weight of drowsiness the meds cause. After all, the brain is a muscle, so in theory it's possible, just difficult. <br /> <br />*hugs* to everyone suffering.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>TallyMan</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:53 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Just to add an update. I think the medication is working now. I've been quite stable the last couple of days and the severe depressive bouts appear to have gone. I hope they don't come back! The medication is still causing drowsiness but that is easing, presumably as my body gets used to the drugs. Thank you to the people who have posted in this thread, it has helped.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>FaeryEthereal</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:27 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>TallyMan wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">When the Cyclothymia is less extreme I've found I can generally live with the highs and lows. I know that in a few hours time or few days I will be feeling level or high again. Cyclothymia is part of my temperament too. In fact I only discovered Cyclothymia a year or so ago after it was suggested to me by someone who also experiences similar tendencies. My doctor has since confirmed this suggestion. It is certainly a complex issue. When the highs are applied to the special interests of Aspergers it can make us highly creative and intuitive in those areas and give us insights that most people are oblivious of. </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />So very true and very validating to hear it from someone else who also has both AS & Cyclothymia.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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