Post 4624169 - (Asperger's and Being Considered "Disabled")

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[quote="Silvervarg"][quote="aghogday"][quote="Silvervarg"][quote="aghogday"]Social skills have a greater impact on quality of life for people on the autism spectrum than do any specific diagnoses. Contrary to popular assumption, people diagnosed with so-called mild forms of autism don’t fare any better in life than those with severe forms of the disorder. That’s the conclusion of [b]a new study that suggests that even individuals with normal intelligence and language abilities struggle to fit into society because of their social and communication problems[/b]. [/quote]

This is so obviously not true it's unbelivable you even posted the crap here.
And to be very picky, this thread, and thus my first statement was about Aspies.[/quote]
If you dispute the evidenced material your argument is with those that did the study and provided the peer reviewed results.  You attribute the quote to me, but it is not my quote, it is a quote from an article referencing the research.

If you meant aspies you could have said aspies; you said autistics, however that's no problem, I've addressed the differences in studies that have been provided in my last post among the different disorders, including the correlation of schizotypal thinking (magical thinking) and aspergers. [/quote]
You posted it, that's why the quote is adressed to you, otherwise it'd looked like it was Sweetleaf who wrote it.
And you posted it here as an argument, therefor you are accountable, unless someone forced you to include it at gun point.

I never claimed anything about autistics, except when replying to your posts, and why do you think I've repeated "Irrelevent" like a freaking parrot...

[quote][quote][quote]Those are your statements above that I was responding to; my response on fear and avoidance was in agreement that it can play a part in limiting social communication, but it is not necessarily predictive of whether or not someone is more logical than someone else. Some are rarely afraid to make responses in social communication, regardless if the responses are accepted as logical social ones or not.[/quote]
Yes, and that's the beuty of statistics, these "some" will always be a minority. What is more likley to occur, occurs generaly more often than something less likely. That is undisputable.[/quote]
Avoiding response is not necessarily an indication of logic for some whom may be afraid to respond because of social admonishment, it is only an indication of no response as it relates to logical communication[/quote]
... Time to wash your eyes and read that post again, because you (again) failed to understand it.

[quote][quote][quote]I have provided the broad perspective of the impact of autism spectrum disorders, that provide evidence without a shadow of a doubt that the majority of individuals diagnosed [b]do not have the ability to make the logical decisions in life, required to gain independence in life[/b]. There are millions of individuals evidenced in the world that experience autism spectrum disorders as a disabling disorder.[/quote] 
And you made a whopsie again. Logic has no goal, it can't be judged by a persons "quailty of life", because these are [i]fabricated by our culture[/i]. Logic is a way of thinking and a tool for problem solving, nothing els.[/quote]
I made no statements regarding quality of life; nor that logic has a goal; there is logic that provides correct outcomes and there is logic that provides incorrect outcomes.  You quoted the third party reference I provided, not me, per quality of life.

Problem solving is required in social communication as well as in decisions that allow one to gain independence in life.[/quote]
Yes you did, I highlighted it for you so you wouldn't miss it. You said "They aren't logical because they can't take care of themselves." That is a judgement of their logical capabilites based on their quality of life.

[quote]Peer reviewed research, is provided oversight in an attempt to ensure bias is not part of the researched analysis.

It's a wonderful way to cut through emotional bias, that all human beings are subject to. My opinion, on it's own, would mean little to nothing without it. [/quote]
You seem unaware of a few things, so let me explain.
1. Peer review will only accept things they are [b]willing[/b] to accept, this has been the problem of the system as long as it has existed.
2. There are several openly bias groups providing reviews for "science" they support. (Creatonism comes to mind first.)

A peer reviewed report is by no means a fool proof way of finding the "truth".

[quote]Logic and emotion work hand in hand in success in life; the yin and yang balance of life, that has been understood well before western science was invented, and the connections of emotion/logic were studied in peer reviewed research. [/quote]
The only ones who have stated such things here as been you, about our points, which is still wrong.[/quote]

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