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[quote="Uprising"]...after a toilet visit? In my country, people seem to be too lazy to wash their hands even after a poop, it disturbs me, knowing that I always wash my hands after a wee and do it more than once after a poop. I also keep my nails incredibly short so there doesn't get any filth underneat it. I guess I'm a weird case then. I also shower daily, while most other people over here do it like once every 2 days or even 3 days. Is sanitairy hygiene being overlooked these days or what?[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Dauthrsbane</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:20 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Well soap creeps me out so I never use it. I rinse my hands quite frequently though.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Ashariel</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:08 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">My ex didn't always wash his hands after using the bathroom, which I found really disgusting. Sometimes when he came out, I'd ask him to rub my back a little and say it was randomly hurting... Just so at least he'd wipe his hands on my shirt a little bit, before trying to touch my face or something! LOL</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>kx250rider</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:47 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Why are there so many people who don't wash their hands.</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Uprising wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">...after a toilet visit? <br /> <br />In my country, people seem to be too lazy to wash their hands even after a poop, it disturbs me, knowing that I always wash my hands after a wee and do it more than once after a poop. I also keep my nails incredibly short so there doesn't get any filth underneat it. <br /> <br />I guess I'm a weird case then. <br /> <br />I also shower daily, while most other people over here do it like once every 2 days or even 3 days. <br /> <br />Is sanitairy hygiene being overlooked these days or what?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I do as you do... Cleanliness is everything! I wash my hands as a courtesy and as a habit, even if I just go in the bathroom to get a pill or something. I like to hear hands being washed before the bathroom door opens, and I like to return the courtesy. <br /> <br />Charles</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>joannaaleksandra</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:59 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I find not washing hands after visiting toilet disgusting. People who don't wash hands can get parasites and contagious diseases, and this is rather unpleasant.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>DNForrest</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:29 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>RazorEddie wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Engineers and mechanics wash their hands <span style="font-style: italic">before</span> going to the toilet...</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Yup, you know you work in a biological or chemical lab (or something similar) when you consider washing your hands before going to the bathroom more important than after. <br /> <br /> <br />On the original note, people not washing their hands after using a public restroom is why I ALWAYS use a paper towel to use the door handle. I also use a paper towel to turn off non-automatic faucets, their handle are amongst the filthiest things in public bathrooms.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>SpiritBlooms</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:23 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>RazorEddie wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Engineers and mechanics wash their hands <span style="font-style: italic">before</span> going to the toilet...</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">LOL, well I'm not an engineer or mechanic, but there are times when I wash both before and after, to keep from getting something on my clothing. <br /> <br />BTW, I once heard a physician's assistant talk about washing one's hands after the bathroom (in the context of how people get hepatitis from eating in restaurants), and I won't go into graphic detail about bacteria and the fluids in feces, and how many layers of toilet paper it takes to prevent them from getting on your hands. I'm sure you get the idea already, and I don't remember all the details. It's easy to think "I have no germs that will hurt anyone" but we all have a pretty varied gut flora and some of what's there isn't good, and while it might not make a young, healthy person ill it could make someone who's immune compromised or has recently taken antibiotics (and killed some of their own more balanced, healthy gut flora) ill. It really is best to wash one's hands in order not to leave germs around that could harm someone else. <br /> <br />Old habits die hard, though, and I'm still adapting to the newer sneeze or cough into the crook of your elbow rule myself. But my biggest concern with hand washing is that i don't want to be responsible for making others ill. When I have a cold or flu I stay away from people, as much as possible, and become more obsessive about washing my hands. <br /> <br />That said I agree we can be too clean, and being obsessive about sanitation can be as unhealthy as the other extreme. When I was young, obsessive housewives bleached everything. It's now known that bleach is a carcinogen, and I don't think it's a coincidence that one aunt whose house was always spotless and smelled of bleach also later got breast cancer. I seldom use bleach now - vinegar is almost as effective and a lot safer. When I do use bleach I'm much more careful about the amount and the circumstances.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>RazorEddie</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:07 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Engineers and mechanics wash their hands <span style="font-style: italic">before</span> going to the toilet...</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>conan</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:04 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Pipilo wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Actually, I agree that it is not a good idea to be a sanitation freak. If our homes are overly clean, we won't be able to build any immunity to normal pathogens in our environments. And frequent sanitation can lead to super-bacteria, as we usually manage to destroy the weakest ones and leave the toughest ones behind. In fact, current research on allergies and asthma links them directly to cultures which tend to oversanitize their homes. Third world kids rarely have asthma. Also, a few parasites also seem to be healthy, and research suggests that the components of our immune systems that evolved to fight bacteria are now "out of work," and are fighting harmless pathogens instead, like pollen. <br /> <br />Bacteria are also a normal inhabitant of our skin, and unless you are immuno-compromised, you should not get sick from the bacteria that normally colonize your body. But, when it comes to hands, several issues remain. <br /> <br />1. Viruses are never normal inhabitants in our bodies, and can make us sick. We develop resistance to viruses we meet a lot, but can become sick when we meet new ones. I always wash my hands when I've been out in public. <br /> <br />2. If I have a virus, I can easily get others sick if I use poor hand hygiene. If they happen to be immuno-compromised (many people are), I can be endangering their well-being. <br /> <br />3. Feces are not healthy to eat. We probably have some resistance to the normal bacteria in our own bowels, but again, the people around us, or using the shopping cart after us, may not. <br /> <br />4. So even if I know I never get sick, something left on my hands could easily get someone else very ill. So when I'm feeling indifferent to my own health, I think about the health of others, and wash my hands. <br /> <br />OK, since we're talking about all this stuff, and since this is one of my special interests, I just want to say that bacteria are unbelievably amazing organisms. They evolve, they communicate, they reach out with finger-like projections and touch each other, thereby transmitting critical information about how to fight the evil armies coming to destroy them. And they win! we can never destroy them, not entirely. I love them for that. On a scale of one to ten, how weird would it be to get a bacteria tattoo? I'm not always the best judge of when something is too weird.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />a bacterial tattoo would be great!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pipilo</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:23 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Actually, I agree that it is not a good idea to be a sanitation freak. If our homes are overly clean, we won't be able to build any immunity to normal pathogens in our environments. And frequent sanitation can lead to super-bacteria, as we usually manage to destroy the weakest ones and leave the toughest ones behind. In fact, current research on allergies and asthma links them directly to cultures which tend to oversanitize their homes. Third world kids rarely have asthma. Also, a few parasites also seem to be healthy, and research suggests that the components of our immune systems that evolved to fight parasites are now "out of work," and are fighting harmless pathogens instead, like pollen. <br /> <br />Bacteria are also a normal inhabitant of our skin, and unless you are immuno-compromised, you should not get sick from the bacteria that normally colonize your body. But, when it comes to hands, several issues remain. <br /> <br />1. Viruses are never normal inhabitants in our bodies, and can make us sick. We develop resistance to viruses we meet a lot, but can become sick when we meet new ones. I always wash my hands when I've been out in public. <br /> <br />2. If I have a virus, I can easily get others sick if I use poor hand hygiene. If they happen to be immuno-compromised (many people are), I can be endangering their well-being. <br /> <br />3. Feces are not healthy to eat. We probably have some resistance to the normal bacteria in our own bowels, but again, the people around us, or using the shopping cart after us, may not. <br /> <br />4. So even if I know I never get sick, something left on my hands could easily get someone else very ill. So when I'm feeling indifferent to my own health, I think about the health of others, and wash my hands. <br /> <br />OK, since we're talking about all this stuff, and since this is one of my special interests, I just want to say that bacteria are unbelievably amazing organisms. They evolve, they communicate, they reach out with finger-like projections and touch each other, thereby transmitting critical information about how to fight the evil armies coming to destroy them. And they win! we can never destroy them, not entirely. I love them for that. On a scale of one to ten, how weird would it be to get a bacteria tattoo? I'm not always the best judge of when something is too weird.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Sweetleaf</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:49 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I don't typically bother unless I get something on them...I also don't get sick. Last time I got sick I was 15 and I'm 22.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>lostgirl1986</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:45 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>HisDivineMajesty wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Not washing hands might make a little sense - it helps your immune system. My mother didn't see anything wrong with letting me play in the mud near the water, climbing trees and those things. I was allowed to catch a cold or get hurt when I did something stupid like jumping on the ice and falling face-down. As a result, I rarely fall ill, even when I'm taking absurd risks like spending time with people who have the flu or going outside in just a shirt and jeans in the middle of winter. On the other hand, people who were kept to obsessive hygienic standards are bed-ridden every time anyone sneezes in their general direction. <br /> <br />Still, washing your hands after going to the loo is something I think isn't too much to ask. I wash my hands before I eat a regular meal, and after I've been to the toilet, and when I come home after spending time in public places.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Actually I agree with you. I always roll my eyes when I see parents sanitizing every little thing lest their baby catch a cold. It's good to strengthen a child's immune system. So what if your child picks up a pacifier off the floor, so what if he eats a bit of dirt? They're not going to die. <br /> <br />Overall though, yes it is gross not washing your hands after going to the washroom for obvious reasons.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>conan</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:37 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">i don't get poop or urine on my hands when i go to the toilet. i don't like soap or wet hands but i will wash them all the time at work as i work on a construction site where the risk is higher. I will wash after touching raw meat/fish/egg. <br /> <br />i guess they get washed when i use shower gel in the shower most days. <br /> <br />the idea of hygiene is really a bit of a myth as far as i can see. i do see there being a risk with faeces but otherwise anything that is dangerous is fairly unavoidable and i'd guess rubbing soap all over your hands multiple times a day is not good for your skin <br /> <br />if i have cuts on my hands i think i'd be more careful <br /> <br />I think i'm happy to accept that bacteria and pathogens are everywhere and handwashing does very little to prevent infection in most home settings</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>SpiritBlooms</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:07 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I don't know why people don't wash. But I suspect it has to do with not thinking things through and not being in the habit. To me there are times when you really must wash them and after using the bathroom is definitely one, as well as right before handling food (preparing it or eating it), and during food prep if you handle raw meat or even produce that hasn't been washed. <br /> <br />My mom was pretty big on teaching us to wash our hands, so it became a habit early on. I also very early in life realized I hated my hands to feel dirty, sticky, etc. So even as a small child I liked my hands clean. <br /> <br />I'm not OCD, in fact I'm sort of a cluttered, messy person, and soap dries my hands, so I use lotion a lot too, but hand-washing is important to me. <br /> <br />The only times in my life I've gotten sick a lot were when I was in school, when I worked graveyard shift and couldn't get enough sleep, and when I worked in a large, crowded, open-plan office.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Pondering</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:55 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I just eat right, that usually keeps my immune system working pretty good.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Uprising</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://cdn.wrongplanet.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:32 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I think not wiping your *** properly together with not washing your hands properly would actually make you more ill than hopping into the shower twice a day out of fear of stains. <br /> <br />Imagine all the filthy bacteria/parasites you ingest when you lick your filthy fingers afterwards if you don't take care of yourself. <br /> <br />Immune system won't cover you anymore if the amount of filth you ingest is way too much.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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