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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ouinon</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 6:35 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">High protein diets acidify urine, leading to hypercalciuria, (high calcium levels in urine). Bicarbonate is used by the body to reduce the calcium excretion. <br /> <br />Bicarbonate will decrease dental plaque acidity, and its buffering capacity is important to prevent dental cavities. It increases calcium uptake by teeth enamel. <br /> <br />If you eat a lot of protein, acid-forming diets, high phosphorus food, availability of bicarbonate to protect your teeth will be reduced. <br /> <br />Calcium <span style="font-style: italic">is</span> one of the buffers in the blood that maintain pH. And its presence there is regulated by hormones, particularly the parathyroid, which causes calcium to be dissolved out of the bone/teeth, into the blood. A high phosphorus ( protein) diet increases "demand" for calcium. <br /> <br /><img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>katrine</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:57 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">No! <br />Acid comes from metabolising protein (amino acids). <br />Also from respiration, which produces CO2 (which turns into H2co2, and then H+, which means acid) <br />Acid excess can be buffered by bicarbonate in the blood (HCO3-). <br />Respiration lets us expire CO2 (acid), and we can hyperventilate to compensate too much acid. <br />Finally, the kidneys rid us of acid. <br /> <br />All these systems are exquisitely efficient, as we die if pH is not very tightly controlled.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ouinon</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:19 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>katrine wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Blood pH is kept in a very, very narrow range (7,35-7,45) no matter what you eat. </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /><span style="font-style: italic">How</span> does the body keep the body's pH in this very narrow range no matter what you eat? No matter how much acid-forming food you eat, no matter whether you eat acid-forming food all day? <br /> <br />It takes alkaline materials from "somewhere" to restore the normal pH. <br /><span style="font-style: italic">Where</span> does it get alkaline materials from? Teeth and bones are good sources. . <br /> <br /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ouinon</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:08 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>katrine wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">First: we're kinda hi-jacking someone-elses thred about a different topic.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /><span style="font-style: italic">I</span>'m not! I am proposing cheap/free dental care, which has worked for me, and for my son's papa, and apparently for others. Teeth can, up to a point, ( obviously not if already falling out, or rotten to the root, etc), be mended with diet. One of the two cheapest and most important dental care procedures is eating right, ( and the other is brushing your teeth before bed. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /> ) <br /> <br /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>katrine</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:53 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">First: we're kinda hi-jacking someone-elses thred about a different topic. <br /> <br />Second: I'm a pretty rational, hard-evidence kinda gal. I'm open to all kinds off things, but think it should be tested and documented before I'll A-OK it. <br /> <br />Blood pH is kept in a very, very narrow range (7,35-7,45) no matter what you eat. If this is what you mean by an acid-metabolic state? <br />Yes, cutting out all white sugar of course would help, of course locally in the mouth, but for most people this isn't going to be realistic.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ouinon</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:59 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>katrine wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Fructose is sugar. Bacteria use these, and form acid. Acid erodes teeth.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody">I'm not talking about the surface so much as the living inside of the teeth. Fructose is only going to be a danger to teeth if they are weakened by an acidic metabolic state, which is what happens if eat acid-forming food from morning to evening. <br /> <br />Teeth rot ( faster) if the body is constantly acidic, because the ( alkaline) calcium which keeps them strong/resistant to surface acid gets taken away by the body to balance up the acid. <br /> <br />Cutting white sugar out completely is also good cheap dental care. But if it is already too late, and caries/rot has started, and teeth are aching, eat nothing acid-forming before midday, and as little as possible ( acid-forming ) the rest of the time until are better. Fasting for a couple of days does wonders. <br /> <br /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>katrine</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:14 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Fructose is sugar. Bacteria use these, and form acid. Acid erodes teeth.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ouinon</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:44 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>katrine wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Rubbish! <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> Fructose.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />What has fructose got to do with it? <br /> <br />The point is to eat nothing that leaves an acid metabolic residue/end product on being digested and absorbed, because acid "ash", from the digestion of cereals, milk, and eggs for example, obliges the body to take alkaline minerals out of their stores in the body; calcium from teeth and bones for instance, to balance the acid. <br /> <br />While working on digestion, absorption, and metabolising food, other than fruit, ( which takes little or no time to digest etc), the body can not get on with repairs. <br /> <br /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>katrine</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:52 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Rubbish! <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <br />Fructose. <br />I told you about my mother in law, Ouinon. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>ouinon</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:16 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Eat nothing but fruit before noon each day. <br /> <br />Gives your body a chance to do its own repair work, and much better than the dentist. <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" /> <br /> <br /> <img src="modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Mudboy</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:57 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Go to your local medical college where they teach dentistry. Interns always need practice. They even have a real dentist watching what the Interns are doing.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>digger1</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="http://wrongplanet.cachefly.net/modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:21 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: free dental care in US?</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">does anyone know how one could get free or reduced cost dental care in the US?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="modules/Forums/templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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