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22 Jul 2011, 7:23 pm

......would like to see our own "untouchables" dealt with in this manner???





[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfM4zFqtm88&feature=relmfu[/youtube]










I'm guessing quite a few.....possibly even millions.


So keep supporting your local would-be child murderers and serial killer....excuse me!! !...."businessmen" folks!! ! Perhaps one day our wayward socialist nation will come to its senses and like Columbia, that model civilization to our south :roll: and realize it is our SACRED DUTY to keep the rich man happy!! ! :D

Oh...and while we're at it.....let's include those worthless and unproductive vermin with Autism Spectrum Disorders among those in need of a little "social cleansing" eh???

Why....just last week my 20 y/o mistress wanted to bring five of her girlfriends on my yacht for a little sea-faring sexy time!! ! Do you realize what I had to tell her??? I had to tell her my taxes were so dang high that I couldn't afford to pay her girlfriends their going price. And just why in the hell do you think they're so high??? Yep....you guessed it...all because of ret*d sons-of-bitches with Assburgers syndrome and all the other losers in need of social services!! !


So congratulations con-servatives and capitalists......you've actually managed to out-sociopath the nazis!! !

At least the nazis based their own "social cleansing" policies on something beyond their own vulgar and superfluous greed and selfishness. :x


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22 Jul 2011, 7:31 pm

MAVI

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22 Jul 2011, 7:40 pm

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MAVI

*note new policy





As if I don't contend with enough mysterious and ill-explained acronyms in our contemporary nightmare society as it is :roll:



Mind explaining what MAVI means without implying how stupid or out-of-touch with some johnny-come-lately subcultural phenomenon I am????

The best I could surmise is "Moratorium on Audio-Visual Images" :?


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22 Jul 2011, 11:21 pm

Horus wrote:
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Mind explaining what MAVI means without implying how

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stupid or out-of-touch with some johnny-come-lately subcultural phenomenon I am????


C

The best I could surmise is "Moratorium on Audio-Visual Images" :?


A Yes

B You may be out of touch with the currents, but you cannot be more out of touch than I was. Most acronyms around here I have no clue. But NBD

C. I would certainly support such a moratorium - but at least you unlike some did not post JUST the video.



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23 Jul 2011, 2:13 am

You speak fluent Sarcastic^^
I wonder how the american society could stay so silly though they have the new media like we also have in europe. The United States are the greatest Plutocrazy on earth. It's not the small man who votes for one big man to lead him. It's two oppositions who aren't even that different and both unbelieveable conservative and blind who get bought by concerns for getting money and voters who are undirectly but obviously also bought through the median manipulation. It's also perverted how it is in europe, but it's like an egg battery in the united states. American Batterized Eggs xD ABE^^

I hope that once I will make it in the US. Billions of lost and uneducated souls under my control. My personal robot army^^ And then I'll attack the chinese, Autobots vs. Decepticons, who will win xD


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23 Jul 2011, 4:29 am

Horus wrote:
So keep supporting your local would-be child murderers and serial killer....excuse me!! !...."businessmen" folks!! ! Perhaps one day our wayward socialist nation will come to its senses and like Columbia, that model civilization to our south :roll: and realize it is our SACRED DUTY to keep the rich man happy!! ! :D

Oh...and while we're at it.....let's include those worthless and unproductive vermin with Autism Spectrum Disorders among those in need of a little "social cleansing" eh???

Why....just last week my 20 y/o mistress wanted to bring five of her girlfriends on my yacht for a little sea-faring sexy time!! ! Do you realize what I had to tell her??? I had to tell her my taxes were so dang high that I couldn't afford to pay her girlfriends their going price. And just why in the hell do you think they're so high??? Yep....you guessed it...all because of ret*d sons-of-bitches with Assburgers syndrome and all the other losers in need of social services!! !


So congratulations con-servatives and capitalists......you've actually managed to out-sociopath the nazis!! !

At least the nazis based their own "social cleansing" policies on something beyond their own vulgar and superfluous greed and selfishness. :x

That's a really nice strawman you built there. Taxes are where they are at to support an equilibrium in the economy as best as possible. Unless you plan to lobby for a ban on freedom to travel, then if people don't like how high the taxes are, they can move. Corporations often do this a lot easier than individuals. Government have to compete to keep both individuals and businesses paying taxes at all and not provoking them to take both their contributions to the economy and their tax revenue as well someplace else. Any argument of moral responsibility to society does not apply to corporations because they are legally obligated to look after the best interests of their share holders exclusively. The situation is more complicated for the middle class. They tend to form deeper bonds in one area than rich jet-setters and they can't afford to switch jobs at a whim- especially in Obama's economy. Increasing taxes on them takes a big toll on the economy, which in turn drags them down more, etc, etc, and using that money for government services is inefficient for them compared to what they could get themselves. As for the poor street kids and disabled, we DO have a social safety net to prevent them from ending up like they do in Columbia. It would work even better if we shed the parasites I mean illegal aliens from our own safety net.


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23 Jul 2011, 9:42 am

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Horus wrote:
So keep supporting your local would-be child murderers and serial killer....excuse me!! !...."businessmen" folks!! ! Perhaps one day our wayward socialist nation will come to its senses and like Columbia, that model civilization to our south :roll: and realize it is our SACRED DUTY to keep the rich man happy!! ! :D

Oh...and while we're at it.....let's include those worthless and unproductive vermin with Autism Spectrum Disorders among those in need of a little "social cleansing" eh???

Why....just last week my 20 y/o mistress wanted to bring five of her girlfriends on my yacht for a little sea-faring sexy time!! ! Do you realize what I had to tell her??? I had to tell her my taxes were so dang high that I couldn't afford to pay her girlfriends their going price. And just why in the hell do you think they're so high??? Yep....you guessed it...all because of ret*d sons-of-bitches with Assburgers syndrome and all the other losers in need of social services!! !


So congratulations con-servatives and capitalists......you've actually managed to out-sociopath the nazis!! !

At least the nazis based their own "social cleansing" policies on something beyond their own vulgar and superfluous greed and selfishness. :x

That's a really nice strawman you built there. Taxes are where they are at to support an equilibrium in the economy as best as possible. Unless you plan to lobby for a ban on freedom to travel, then if people don't like how high the taxes are, they can move. Corporations often do this a lot easier than individuals. Government have to compete to keep both individuals and businesses paying taxes at all and not provoking them to take both their contributions to the economy and their tax revenue as well someplace else. Any argument of moral responsibility to society does not apply to corporations because they are legally obligated to look after the best interests of their share holders exclusively.

That is exactly why corporations should not have nearly as much power as they do over the world. can you honestly trust people who are only looking out for their own profits with that much power?

The situation is more complicated for the middle class. They tend to form deeper bonds in one area than rich jet-setters and they can't afford to switch jobs at a whim- especially in Obama's economy. Increasing taxes on them takes a big toll on the economy, which in turn drags them down more, etc, etc, and using that money for government services is inefficient for them compared to what they could get themselves. As for the poor street kids and disabled, we DO have a social safety net to prevent them from ending up like they do in Columbia. It would work even better if we shed the parasites I mean illegal aliens from our own safety net.


yeah and that is just the middle class can you imagine how hard it is for people below middle class to switch jobs at a whim, or deal with raised taxes....also what about all the mentally disabled homeless people that probably do end up dying because they cannot take care of themselves and no one really cares.....this nation is not doing a very good job at putting that social safety net to good use. I do not agree with calling illegal immigrants parasites nessisarly but I do agree they are not entitled to all the services and such that people who are legally here need.



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23 Jul 2011, 11:49 am

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Horus wrote:
So keep supporting your local would-be child murderers and serial killer....excuse me!! !...."businessmen" folks!! ! Perhaps one day our wayward socialist nation will come to its senses and like Columbia, that model civilization to our south :roll: and realize it is our SACRED DUTY to keep the rich man happy!! ! :D

Oh...and while we're at it.....let's include those worthless and unproductive vermin with Autism Spectrum Disorders among those in need of a little "social cleansing" eh???

Why....just last week my 20 y/o mistress wanted to bring five of her girlfriends on my yacht for a little sea-faring sexy time!! ! Do you realize what I had to tell her??? I had to tell her my taxes were so dang high that I couldn't afford to pay her girlfriends their going price. And just why in the hell do you think they're so high??? Yep....you guessed it...all because of ret*d sons-of-bitches with Assburgers syndrome and all the other losers in need of social services!! !


So congratulations con-servatives and capitalists......you've actually managed to out-sociopath the nazis!! !

At least the nazis based their own "social cleansing" policies on something beyond their own vulgar and superfluous greed and selfishness. :x




That's a really nice strawman you built there. Taxes are where they are at to support an equilibrium in the economy as best as possible. Unless you plan to lobby for a ban on freedom to travel, then if people don't like how high the taxes are, they can move. Corporations often do this a lot easier than individuals. Government have to compete to keep both individuals and businesses paying taxes at all and not provoking them to take both their contributions to the economy and their tax revenue as well someplace else. Any argument of moral responsibility to society does not apply to corporations because they are legally obligated to look after the best interests of their share holders exclusively. The situation is more complicated for the middle class. They tend to form deeper bonds in one area than rich jet-setters and they can't afford to switch jobs at a whim- especially in Obama's economy. Increasing taxes on them takes a big toll on the economy, which in turn drags them down more, etc, etc, and using that money for government services is inefficient for them compared to what they could get themselves. As for the poor street kids and disabled, we DO have a social safety net to prevent them from ending up like they do in Columbia. It would work even better if we shed the parasites I mean illegal aliens from our own safety net.



Hahahaha....I say let them move if taxes are too high for them to afford their 20th automobile. Why should I be the least bit concerned about people whose idiotic superfluous greed for material wealth knows no bounds? Perhaps they could go to Brazil and see how favorably the rich are treated there. They better home-school their children lest some impoverished thugs in Sao Paulo kidnap them and threaten to send them back body part by body part if they fail to pay up. Corporations can do whatever they want too......we don't necessarily need them or their products. Let's how well they fare when westerners no longer care about their stupid Iphones and cheap fashionable clothes. Who are they going to sell them too then? The Sudanese perhaps??? :roll: Your whole system is wrong from the ground up. You're still talking capitalism sir. Your comments here imply that i'm some social democrat or European-style "socialist". I am not. What I propose it is not a wholly non-capitalist society based entirely on cooperation and a level playing field rather than competition and socio-economic hierarchy. I care nothing about what corporations are "legally obligated" by and what they're not. Indeed....I don't believe many laws should even be laws in the first place. Thus I also care nothing about the "shareholders" who are little more than maggot-like parasites who feed off the misery and misfortune of others. Thus....I propose a transvaluation of values of sorts here and not just "reforms".

Oh......and for once.... you con-servatives might wish to look to your own much-heralded "businessmen" and "entrepreneurs" for the source of illegal immigrant problem. They are the REAL parasites who love "illegal aliens" since they can work these desperate people to death for substandard wages and make even more of a profit for themselves. You know......after all.....it would be nice if Jim the general contractor could afford to go to Central America this year under the guise of a "fishing trip" and procure the highest quality 12 y/o prostitutes :roll:


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23 Jul 2011, 5:00 pm

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That is exactly why corporations should not have nearly as much power as they do over the world. can you honestly trust people who are only looking out for their own profits with that much power?

No, I don't, but we have to take it slow and be careful how we make reforms to avoid a nasty shock to the economy that would be bad for everybody including the working poor and those using social services.

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yeah and that is just the middle class can you imagine how hard it is for people below middle class to switch jobs at a whim, or deal with raised taxes....also what about all the mentally disabled homeless people that probably do end up dying because they cannot take care of themselves and no one really cares.....this nation is not doing a very good job at putting that social safety net to good use. I do not agree with calling illegal immigrants parasites nessisarly but I do agree they are not entitled to all the services and such that people who are legally here need.

Getting rid of the illegal aliens would free up money and housing in social service programs for people that the government actually has some moral responsibility to try and look after. For the time being, if you've been watching the news you'll see that the best anyone can hope for right now is that both parties in congress keep social services funded at all. Neither side has handled the Situation well and Obama is making matters worse.


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23 Jul 2011, 5:27 pm

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Hahahaha....I say let them move if taxes are too high for them to afford their 20th automobile. Why should I be the least bit concerned about people whose idiotic superfluous greed for material wealth knows no bounds? Perhaps they could go to Brazil and see how favorably the rich are treated there. They better home-school their children lest some impoverished thugs in Sao Paulo kidnap them and threaten to send them back body part by body part if they fail to pay up. Corporations can do whatever they want too......we don't necessarily need them or their products. Let's how well they fare when westerners no longer care about their stupid Iphones and cheap fashionable clothes. Who are they going to sell them too then? The Sudanese perhaps??? :roll: Your whole system is wrong from the ground up. You're still talking capitalism sir. Your comments here imply that i'm some social democrat or European-style "socialist". I am not. What I propose it is not a wholly non-capitalist society based entirely on cooperation and a level playing field rather than competition and socio-economic hierarchy. I care nothing about what corporations are "legally obligated" by and what they're not. Indeed....I don't believe many laws should even be laws in the first place. Thus I also care nothing about the "shareholders" who are little more than maggot-like parasites who feed off the misery and misfortune of others. Thus....I propose a transvaluation of values of sorts here and not just "reforms".
They don't necessarily have to move to a house and a main office in a 3rd world country, they just have to find a state or country willing to give them a really good deal on taxes. They can also move large portions of their operations to 3rd world counters and use them as offshore tax shelters as far as US law is concerned. And are you advocating anarcho-primitivism? Do do realize that technology allowed the world's population to get as big as it has, and that without it there would be apocalyptic conditions, right? Do do realize that non-capitalist societies all had chronic shortages of food, equipment, and household goods, right? The playing field will never be level because not everybody has the same level of talent or skill. This will always give some an advantage in life and will cause jealousy among others. I could go on and on about how your society flies in the face of human instinct, but it's more time consuming than I care for.

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Oh......and for once.... you con-servatives might wish to look to your own much-heralded "businessmen" and "entrepreneurs" for the source of illegal immigrant problem. They are the REAL parasites who love "illegal aliens" since they can work these desperate people to death for substandard wages and make even more of a profit for themselves. You know......after all.....it would be nice if Jim the general contractor could afford to go to Central America this year under the guise of a "fishing trip" and procure the highest quality 12 y/o prostitutes :roll:

Individual states are slowly closing the loopholes that make it possible for illegal aliens to get hired. Broadly accusing businessmen of being pedophiles is really low and unsubstantiated though.


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23 Jul 2011, 6:57 pm

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They don't necessarily have to move to a house and a main office in a 3rd world country, they just have to find a state or country willing to give them a really good deal on taxes. They can also move large portions of their operations to 3rd world counters and use them as offshore tax shelters as far as US law is concerned. And are you advocating anarcho-primitivism? Do do realize that technology allowed the world's population to get as big as it has, and that without it there would be apocalyptic conditions, right? Do do realize that non-capitalist societies all had chronic shortages of food, equipment, and household goods, right? The playing field will never be level because not everybody has the same level of talent or skill. This will always give some an advantage in life and will cause jealousy among others. I could go on and on about how your society flies in the face of human instinct, but it's more time consuming than I care for.



I would like you to tell me what country OUTSIDE the third world is as business-friendly/low tax as America. Perhaps some countries in Eastern Europe or the Mid-East would be being willing to give them a "good deal" on taxes, but if you haven't noticed, Americans are pretty much despised everywhere (usually for good reason) and I don't know how much better they'd fare in those nations. Let them take their ball and go home if that's what they want to do. Even if we still operated under a capitalist system, those of us who remain could surely maintain ourselves satisfactorily in a relatively more economically equitable system. Considering there's even millionaires and billionaires who don't share your typical and tiresome con-servative "taxes and government are the great Satan" belief system, I think we'd do just fine without people who make Ebeneezer Scrooge look rather kind and generous by comparison. "They" are doing everything you've suggested here anyway......at least to some goodly extent.

I really don't know what you're talking about with "do you realize technology has allowed the world to get as big as it has and that without it there would be apocalyptic conditions". If you're referring to population itself.....ummmm.....I really don't think 6.5 billion people is a thing worth celebrating and I didn't say anything negative about technology here per se. While I do think we have seen some rather superfluous applications of technology, I never said it's negative thing fundamentally speaking. I said that about capitalism itself and no, I'm not advocating anarcho-primitivism either. I clearly see ways of having a society just as modern as our own without the myriad horrors and injustices that have always been part and parcel of capitalism. It is not my fault if you can't imagine such a society. Non-capitalist societies never existed on any large and genuine form Mr. Browning....so again....I don't know what societies you're even referring to here unless you're talking about the Soviet Union and other such societies which were NEVER non-capitalist in any real sense. Those societies were simply prime examples of state capitalism and had plenty of dealings (business/trade/economically-related and otherwise) with the western capitalist ones. I realize not everyone has the same level of talent or skill....but that's no reason to gift people for having a gift they were simply born with. For example.....why should anyone be interested in turning Celine Dion into a multi-millionaire simply because she has a great voice? Simply because she draws in alot of money and countless people can make SOMETHING as a result of her talent??? Not good enough Mr. Browning.....for Celine Dion would still be singing in her shower if it were not for countless others who helped her get to where she's at. That's something you con-servatives never seem to realize. No person....no matter how skilled or talented....is an island and they are as at least as dependent on others as others are dependent upon them. Thus......no one deserves more material wealth than anyone else in my estimation and for more reasons that I've been able to mention here. Suffice it to say one of those reasons has everything to do with my own hard deterministic view of humans. These views pretty much square with those of contemporary scientific materialism I might add.



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Individual states are slowly closing the loopholes that make it possible for illegal aliens to get hired. Broadly accusing businessmen of being pedophiles is really low and unsubstantiated though.



Maybe so......and there's something you can thank GOVERNMENT for Mr. Browning. After all.....if it were left up to businessmen alone, we'd still have child labor and you know it.

Ever hear of hyperbole Mr. Browning??? Nonetheless....considering that the values of the average businessman are of the pit....they might as well all be pedophiles. They're certainly willing to sell out their own country as a matter of obvious routine (e.g., the businessman's touching love affair with a sworn enemy like China :roll:..... just to mention one thing) ......so why not pedophilia??? Enough of them are pedophiles (or at least ephebophiles) in any case. Ever watch Dateline's "To Catch a Predator"??? Or better yet.....ever peruse your state's sex offender registry database??? I assure you not all of those convicted of sex crimes are homeless bums on welfare.


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