stupidity of the midterms

Post Reply New Topic

how many bubbles are in this bar of soap?

As an American, I support selling Treasury paper and encouraging world leaders to load their national vaults with it. We can cite the 75% statistic and tell them, "no worries, debt to GDP is just 75%, keep filling your vaults with our paper, guys". We do this with our middle eastern trading partners for their oil. We get their natural resources, and they get our paper to stack in their vaults. It's a good trade ... for us

How long with this game go on ? Where America gets the world's natural resources in exchange for paper ? Someday the music stops, and the paper becomes worthless.

We get the government that we deserve.

The average conserve voter has more than a clue of how our government operates. The Constitution of the U.Sey. is in shambles and principled conservatives are rightfully upset about that. Our government has become a Neo-Fascist Abomination.

ruveyn

Obama has showed America his corruption and destructive policies. He is the one who made it impossible for democrats to win in the midterm elections. People voted for republicans not necessarily because they like republicans or are republicans. They voted for the republicans so that no one who shares Obama's policies and ideaology would win. People have woken up to see what a fraud and a liar Obama is. No one likes Obama anymore. He is as unpopular as ever right now. The Obama love has died a long time ago.

I think the midterms were in large part due to frustrations with a lot of failed promises by the Democrats more than anything else.

And I would urge you to check any fact checking website on the internet to assess your claims that the Democratic controlled Senate was the major hold up. Out of the 300 some-odd bills where votes are reportedly being "held up," well over 10% were nothing more than purely symbolic ACA repeal, and the majority of the remainder are still in one committee or the other being revised and reviewed. If you are interested, there are dozens of websites out there that track the current status of legislation. I'd bookmark your favorite so that you don't look like a fool be repeating something untrue about one that you heard from some source that you want to be pals with.

Here is my problem with that statement:

Pretty much every single liberal measure on a state ballot in the nation passed.

Marijuana legalization. Abortion rights. Even 4 staunchly conservative states where a minimum wage hike was voted in.

The problem is that people like a lot of democrat policies, but they don't like democrat politicians, and many don't see democrats as being like them. It's still all about wedge issues and culture wars (except on pot).

If democrats stopped insisting on everyone being so ideologically pure, they could make progress on a lot of economic issues.

if only democrats would grow some balls and get a clue, the GOP are stealing their lunch and making them pay for it! where is harry Truman when we need him?

To be fair, the wording of the thread title does tread the trolling line, IMO.

how 'bout "dysfunction of the midterms"? when people vote for pols who have indicated their will to make more governmental gridlock, how is that not dysfunctional?

Perhaps you have missed some of the reports where self identified consistently conservatives and those who get their news exclusively from Fox tend to score the lowest on current events knowledge.

And as for shady voting shenanigans, perhaps you should consider that it took me over 5 hours of standing in line in my inner city district to vote, and saw dozens of people give up waiting. Not to mention that several of those living on my street were not on the rolls, only to discover that they had been victims of a voter purge as a "fraud prevention" measure. Not to mention that in 2012, the Republicans maintains a significant majority in the House despite the Democratic House candidates receiving more than 1.5 million more votes.

But to be honest, I think the absolute biggest reason the Democrats lost this go around wasn't because people like Republicans so much as a lot refused to vote because of all the failed Democratic promises. Primarily a complete lack of progress on immigration reform (low Hispanic turnout in most regions) and a failure to do anything about wage inequality, minimum wage, and stagnant wages despite much rhetoric flying about fixes (around a dismal 20% youth vote).
Combine that with some pretty effective fear rallying of the Republican base and you get yourself a whole lot of red seats.

I think a young Republican Teddy Roosevelt would be better in our current state. Although he would likely be labelled a raging commie socialist in today's political climate.

in any case, I hope warren does an Obama.

That's true too...

All the democrats did this cycle is run from Obama. They didn't run for anything.

Also, they continue to allow the republicans define who they are--godless, gay, baby killers, who want your guns!

As long as that image remains, the Democrats will continue to lose ground with Hispanics and the working class in the south.

I'm not saying the Democrats should abandon things like abortion/gay rights and gun control, but they need to allow candidates a bit more room on those issues in various regions.

Also, they need to get back to a more pro-working class economic message like Elizabeth Warren has and abandon all that 3rd way Clinton BS that helped to crash the economy...

I mean, we have 2.5 million children a year experiencing homelessness at some point because our economic system is so broken... We really need to fix it and we can't do it without building coalitions... And you cannot build coalitions with people you're constantly attacking and belittling for believing in god, etc...

The democrats DO need to grow some balls, but they also need to stop getting so caught up in ideological conflict and stop letting perfection be the enemy of the good.

We need to find that golden mean.


This is just another reason we need to start teaching classics again.

Maybe you can link to that? It depends on what you ask people about. How many Democrats thought that Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her house? How many Democrats are well-informed about Obama's scandals? Maybe if Obama watched Fox News he would find out about his Administration's wrongdoings earlier. . .



Maybe they weren't on the rolls because they weren't permitted or registered to vote for whatever reason. In 2012, Obama got 100% of the vote in some precincts. Right. Some precincts had over 100% turnout. How does that happen? How did Al Franken miraculously win in 2008 after a recount where he kept getting further and further ahead? Why do Democrats win the vast majority of close races? I think that, in many races, a Republican candidate needs to win by a comfortable margin so that the Democrats don't "find" a thousand ballots here or there until their candidate wins. Why are Democrats so opposed to voter ID laws if they don't engage in fraud?



Also, almost all of the Republican gains in 2014 were in Red states. Iowa, which is arguably a purple state, is an exception. States like Minnesota and Michigan should have been in play. That Republicans had to fight so hard for seats in Red states during a mid-term election when Obama and the Democrats are screwing everything up, is troubling. Also, another problem is that it seems to me (I could be wrong) that Democrat Senators (incumbents) have a lot easier time holding onto their seats than Republican incumbents. For example, Norm Coleman was essentially tied with Al Franken in 2008, yet the seat was not even in play this election.