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26 Oct 2010, 10:21 am

Supporters of Kentucky GOP Senate candidate Rand Paul dragged a woman, MoveOn.org member Lauren Valle, to the ground and stomped on her head outside of today’s debate between Paul and his Democratic opponent Jack Conway:

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Outside the Conway-Paul debate, a Rand Paul supporter pulled the woman’s blonde wig off and stomped on her head. She was representing the liberal organization MoveOn.org and claimed to be presenting Paul with an award from RepubliCorp. That’s a group created by MoveOn.org that focuses on what it calls the merger between corporate America and the Republican Party.


Valle was taken to a hospital, complaining of “injury to the temple area.” Police are describing her injuries as “minor.” A spokesman for the Lexington Police Department told the Huffington Post have not yet identified the man who assaulted Valle. The police department is reviewing news footage of the incident and “hoping someone can identify who the person is.” Until then, the spokesman said, it is a “pending investigation.”

MoveOn Executive Director Justin Ruben released this statement earlier today:

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We’re appalled at the violent incident that occurred at the Kentucky Senate debate last night. Numerous news reports clearly show that the young woman–a MoveOn supporter–was assaulted and pushed to the ground by Rand Paul supporters, where one man held her down while another stomped on her head. This kind of violence has no place in American society, much less at a peaceful political rally.

Our first concern is obviously Lauren’s health and well being. She is recovering, and we will release more details as we have them. We are concerned that no arrests have yet been made, and we hope those responsible will be brought to justice quickly, and that Rand Paul will join us in condemning this horrible act.

This incident marks the second time in less than two weeks that supporters of a Tea Party candidate physically restrained a person to prevent them from confronting their preferred candidate — although Joe Miller’s (R-AK) private security force did not engage in such a brutal display of violence in order to prevent their candidate from being asked an embarrassing question.


Update: "Everyone is hoping she is okay and I don't think anybody believes this sort of behavior is tolerable," said Mark Riddle, an adviser to the Conway campaign. "We can disagree on issues and be passionate about them but I don't think there is any room for someone throwing a young lady to the ground and stomping her on the head no matter how much they disagree with her."

Update: A spokesman for Rand Paul said, "Violence of any kind has no place in our civil discourse and we urge supporters on all sides to be civil to one another as tensions rise heading toward this very important election."


Video of assault on the source page:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/10/26/paul-stomp/

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Remember when republicans were complaining of "voter intimidation"? Does that mean we can just start saying that all republicans are nothing but violent hick thugs who'll hit a woman?


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26 Oct 2010, 12:15 pm

This is disgusting that no one has stood up openly and fully denounced it. The remarks from the Paul campaign are about as wishy washy as you can get. Their wishy washy unwillingness to fully condemn this disgusting act shows their consent of it.


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26 Oct 2010, 12:36 pm

Good. MoveOn can screw themselves. When the liberals were race-baiting at their rallies the media didn't bat an eyebrow at it.

I think MoveOn is run by a bunch of Bay Area elitists. After all, MoveOn was founded by the couple who ran Berkeley Systems.



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26 Oct 2010, 1:02 pm

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This is disgusting that no one has stood up openly and fully denounced it. The remarks from the Paul campaign are about as wishy washy as you can get. Their wishy washy unwillingness to fully condemn this disgusting act shows their consent of it.


Wow, I'm thoroughly disgusted as well. "...We urge supporters on all sides to be civil..." What a bunch of crap! The attack came from one side, and one side only.



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26 Oct 2010, 1:02 pm

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Good. MoveOn can screw themselves. When the liberals were race-baiting at their rallies the media didn't bat an eyebrow at it.

I think MoveOn is run by a bunch of Bay Area elitists. After all, MoveOn was founded by the couple who ran Berkeley Systems.


Because it really takes that much baiting to get a racist statement out of a wingnut at a rally.

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26 Oct 2010, 1:03 pm

Also, nice to know that you not only support violent acts of political suppression but also violence against women.


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26 Oct 2010, 1:33 pm

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Also, nice to know that you not only support violent acts of political suppression but also violence against women.

You'd be singing a different tune if you went to the rallies here in San Francisco or Berkeley. Violence is expected there - especially at Critical Mass and ANSWER rallies. Interesting things happen when you have naive Berkeley liberals, hipsters and wannabe anarchists from Walnut Creek/Oakland/Concord intermingle at the San Francisco Civic Center/City Hall.

Honestly, I don't condone the curb stomping - but I don't support MoveOn either. It was MoveOn's fault for instigating this act IMO. MoveOn should stick to what they know best - Priuses and Euro-style socialism.



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26 Oct 2010, 1:39 pm

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skafather84 wrote:
Also, nice to know that you not only support violent acts of political suppression but also violence against women.

You'd be singing a different tune if you went to the rallies here in San Francisco or Berkeley. Violence is expected there - especially at Critical Mass and ANSWER rallies. Interesting things happen when you have naive Berkeley liberals, hipsters and wannabe anarchists from Walnut Creek/Oakland/Concord intermingle at the San Francisco Civic Center/City Hall.

Honestly, I don't condone the curb stomping - but I don't support MoveOn either. It was MoveOn's fault for instigating this act IMO. MoveOn should stick to what they know best - Priuses and Euro-style socialism.


So what you're saying is that the conservatives are going to get more and more violent and characterize liberals as more and more of a threat and I'm best off killing as many as I can now before the concentration camps (sorry, you'll probably call it "patriot camps" or "guantanamo bay") are built?


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26 Oct 2010, 2:05 pm

Aqua Buddhism is not a religion of peace

I remember when people were being arrested every day for supposedly threatening Bush, there was the ridiculous case of some "prophet" repeating the Biblical verse about the message from God through a burning bush and that person was accused of planning to set Bush on fire before his arrival in the town. Today, people talk about killing Obama and it's brushed off and nothing happens, there was the case of those preachers praying for his death and that's OK...



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26 Oct 2010, 2:07 pm

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Aqua Buddhism is not a religion of peace


I thought they said 'not a religion of piece' because that's how the buddha got fat: eating whole chickens, whole pies, and pizzas instead of just pieces.


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26 Oct 2010, 2:30 pm

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nthach wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Also, nice to know that you not only support violent acts of political suppression but also violence against women.

You'd be singing a different tune if you went to the rallies here in San Francisco or Berkeley. Violence is expected there - especially at Critical Mass and ANSWER rallies. Interesting things happen when you have naive Berkeley liberals, hipsters and wannabe anarchists from Walnut Creek/Oakland/Concord intermingle at the San Francisco Civic Center/City Hall.

Honestly, I don't condone the curb stomping - but I don't support MoveOn either. It was MoveOn's fault for instigating this act IMO. MoveOn should stick to what they know best - Priuses and Euro-style socialism.


So what you're saying is that the conservatives are going to get more and more violent and characterize liberals as more and more of a threat and I'm best off killing as many as I can now before the concentration camps (sorry, you'll probably call it "patriot camps" or "guantanamo bay") are built?

It's a two way street my friend. Oakland was literally burning the weeks after Oscar Grant was killed by Johannes Mehserle who was a BART Police officer and again after the trial. Drivers in San Francisco reported their cars were being bashed upon by fixie-riding hipsters during Critical Mass bike rides. The left wing actually endorses violence at any cost.

I don't get why when stuff like this happens, the media is all over it like white on rice. But then the left does it, it's like crickets in the room. And I don't think today's liberals are deserving of the definition of a liberal. They're more on the totalitarian/facist/socialist/egalitarian side of things. I believe in classic liberalism as John Locke and Hobbes described it. Not today's brand where today's liberals think it's cool to wear a Che shirt, drive a Prius or ride a fixed-gear bicycle, think that the 1960s is our social ideal and that government knows what's best. Must all the LSD, 'ludes, and acid they did back in Berkeley or the Haight-Ashbury.



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26 Oct 2010, 2:32 pm

xenon13 wrote:
Aqua Buddhism is not a religion of peace

I remember when people were being arrested every day for supposedly threatening Bush, there was the ridiculous case of some "prophet" repeating the Biblical verse about the message from God through a burning bush and that person was accused of planning to set Bush on fire before his arrival in the town. Today, people talk about killing Obama and it's brushed off and nothing happens, there was the case of those preachers praying for his death and that's OK...

Ummm... I think someone had an effigy of Obama hanging from a tree as if he was lynched and the MSM was all over it. At the same time, over in West Hollywood someone had an effigy of Palin hung from chimney and it was a soundbite on the news.



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26 Oct 2010, 3:25 pm

They ID'd the guy.

Can't wait for sweet, sweet internet justice.


http://gawker.com/5673921/meet-the-gun+ ... uls-debate


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26 Oct 2010, 3:44 pm

The ID'd guy is only the one who threw her on the ground; they still don't know the identity of the guy who stomped on her, despite having a clear picture of his face in the video. What utter pigs; I hope this ruins Paul's chances of election.

edit: they know who both of the main instigators are.
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_ ... index.html

The difference between libertarians and communists: libertarians believe that individual might should make rights, and communists believe that collective might should make rights. The former is destructive to anyone (especially including women) who are smaller or poorer, and the latter is destructive to individual rights. Still, as a woman, I think I'd be better off with the communists.

In addition, the tea-party libertarians are using hate and fear as motivators to such a degree that their 'rallies' are clearly now borderline mobs. I'm sure that they'll claim that it wasn't really their fault when one of their mobs really hurts someone.



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26 Oct 2010, 4:20 pm

You should read some of the conservative boards I'm on. People are saying "this is war" and that all progressives need to be exterminated. Some are even calling for the destruction of the cities, like Pol Pot did. This has gone way beyond hating Obama.



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26 Oct 2010, 4:34 pm

Ugh, she was trying to rush Rand Paul to do god knows what. She could of had a knife for all they knew. She wanted to cause a scene to take the focus off anything but the issues in the final week of the campaign and she got what what she wanted. Paul supporters pointed her out to the cops before hand but she wasn't removed.

The supposed fight at the Angle/Reid debate involved a Moveon.org person too... hmmmmmmmmmm... Makes you think. It's all a set up, the establishment are desperate.

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