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28 Mar 2015, 5:31 am

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Well I'll leave the last word to you guys...after all it's a little intimidating debating with a gun pointed at your face


I don't know, did he fire six rounds or only five? Do you feel lucky? 8)



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28 Mar 2015, 11:49 am

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Well I'll leave the last word to you guys...after all it's a little intimidating debating with a gun pointed at your face


I don't know, did he fire six rounds or only five? Do you feel lucky? 8)


One of my favorite classic movie scenes. Although it has a few errors in it that only a true gun nut would notice, I love the near-sociopathic callousness of it.
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28 Mar 2015, 11:50 am

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I sense a bromance is in the air.

Yeah, between Kraichgauer and Cyberdad.

Do you think Auntblabby knows Bill is cheating on him?
I aint even gonna touch that.


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28 Mar 2015, 8:29 pm

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Yes they seem to persistently make personal attacks on you. I'm surprised you haven't notified the mods?


He's welcome to try, but I don't think he'd get the response he wanted, especially given his own well documented history of attacking and slandering me as well as trolling conservatives generally, which I have kept a running report on over the years. Besides, I can back up every claim I've ever made about him, while he cannot do the same, demonstrating that my comments are driven by observation, while his are driven by spite.


I guess I'll take the lead this time.

A couple things:

1.) If Kraichgauer has spoken ill of you, why do you take it to WP to challenge him? I think you mean he committed libel instead. But that still isn't true by your own words, since in America you need to prove Kraichgauer was cognizant enough to know he lied when he did it. Don't you constantly state he's basically delusional with his hypocrisy? If so, he actually did not commit libel under American law.

Plus, you also have to prove that Kraichgauer damaged your reputation when he made the statements for a successful libel claim (admittedly, I did forget this one part when I accused someone of it a couple years ago). What's in your running report for that?

2.) Before showing the "running report," make sure they do include any locked threads. That rule is the major obstacle in showing your own hypocrisy and passive aggressiveness on issues, so no, in some users' cases it is not spite.

3.) How many members do have reports on? I'm interested in this, since a couple users' intellectual integrity on PPR could have been preserved if you stepped in early and corrected them.



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28 Mar 2015, 9:30 pm

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Yes they seem to persistently make personal attacks on you. I'm surprised you haven't notified the mods?


He's welcome to try, but I don't think he'd get the response he wanted, especially given his own well documented history of attacking and slandering me as well as trolling conservatives generally, which I have kept a running report on over the years. Besides, I can back up every claim I've ever made about him, while he cannot do the same, demonstrating that my comments are driven by observation, while his are driven by spite.


I guess I'll take the lead this time.

A couple things:

1.) If Kraichgauer has spoken ill of you, why do you take it to WP to challenge him? I think you mean he committed libel instead. But that still isn't true by your own words, since in America you need to prove Kraichgauer was cognizant enough to know he lied when he did it. Don't you constantly state he's basically delusional with his hypocrisy? If so, he actually did not commit libel under American law.

Plus, you also have to prove that Kraichgauer damaged your reputation when he made the statements for a successful libel claim (admittedly, I did forget this one part when I accused someone of it a couple years ago). What's in your running report for that?

2.) Before showing the "running report," make sure they do include any locked threads. That rule is the major obstacle in showing your own hypocrisy and passive aggressiveness on issues, so no, in some users' cases it is not spite.

3.) How many members do have reports on? I'm interested in this, since a couple users' intellectual integrity on PPR could have been preserved if you stepped in early and corrected them.


Thank you for coming to my defense, Bro' !Blockhead. I personally could care less if Dox is so thin skinned that he has to take every critical remark on my part as slanderous.
Incidentally, the very notion of compiling a running report on anyone in a group like WP is nothing short of snitchy. I thought He-Man gun types were supposed to be too manly to stoop to such methods.


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28 Mar 2015, 10:16 pm

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1.) If Kraichgauer has spoken ill of you, why do you take it to WP to challenge him? I think you mean he committed libel instead. But that still isn't true by your own words, since in America you need to prove Kraichgauer was cognizant enough to know he lied when he did it. Don't you constantly state he's basically delusional with his hypocrisy? If so, he actually did not commit libel under American law.

Plus, you also have to prove that Kraichgauer damaged your reputation when he made the statements for a successful libel claim (admittedly, I did forget this one part when I accused someone of it a couple years ago). What's in your running report for that?


Thank you for that pedantic but utterly unhelpful point, as I'm not talking about any legal action here but pejorative lies being uttered generally. I use libel/slander relatively interchangeably when speaking informally, especially regarding the internet, as typing vs speaking becomes relatively moot in that venue.

As to whether Kraichgauer is mentally competent enough to be held responsible for the things he says, the ToS forbids me from speculating, but anyone who's followed his posts over the years can draw their own conclusions.

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2.) Before showing the "running report," make sure they do include any locked threads. That rule is the major obstacle in showing your own hypocrisy and passive aggressiveness on issues, so no, in some users' cases it is not spite.


What are you even talking about? There is no rule against linking to posts in locked threads, so link 'em if you got 'em, otherwise you're merely making baseless accusations without giving me any opportunity to defend myself.

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3.) How many members do have reports on? I'm interested in this, since a couple users' intellectual integrity on PPR could have been preserved if you stepped in early and corrected them.


I don't keep "reports" on anyone, I've merely kept an open line of communication with the mod team(s) regarding my interactions with Kraichgauer and a few other members, explaining the sources of my frustration and linking their various provocations, so that if I'm accused of picking on or "bullying" them, a paper trail exists demonstrating their own culpability in the matter. After a bad experience with the first mod team I encountered here back in 08, I've made a point of having an insurance policy regarding my testier exchanges, it keeps the surprises to a minimum, as it's hard to report what has already been reported.


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28 Mar 2015, 10:22 pm

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Thank you for coming to my defense, Bro' !Blockhead.


Ever notice how dependent on white knights you are? And how little you pay attention to the particulars as long as they agree with / defend you? You can't even defend yourself without help, and it's not even competent help, just people with axes to grind thinking they can get a free shot in on me.

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I personally could care less if Dox is so thin skinned that he has to take every critical remark on my part as slanderous.


You can't even comment on your slander without compounding it, as the only criticism I apply that term to is that that fits the definition, i.e. the lies, such as the one you just wrote.

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Incidentally, the very notion of compiling a running report on anyone in a group like WP is nothing short of snitchy. I thought He-Man gun types were supposed to be too manly to stoop to such methods.


And I thought liberals were supposed to be smart. Shows why you shouldn't rely on stereotypes, they'll steer you wrong every time.


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29 Mar 2015, 8:01 pm

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I love the near-sociopathic callousness of it.
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Well that's understandable...



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29 Mar 2015, 8:03 pm

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And I thought liberals were supposed to be smart.

Taking a side swipe at the old enemy eh!

We libs don't claim to be smart, we are just darn socialists and humanitarians!



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29 Mar 2015, 10:28 pm

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And I thought liberals were supposed to be smart.

Taking a side swipe at the old enemy eh!

We libs don't claim to be smart, we are just darn socialists and humanitarians!


Well, even if we're not so smart, at least we don't think that the free market would have ended racism, poverty, and strife if only allowed to operate unfettered, without any interference by the government trying to make life better for people, like libertarians and conservatives constantly say it would. That, and that the free market is actually being guided by God almighty - now that's just not dumb, it's absolutely insane. I could go on about the right's rejection of science, and their revisionist view of history, but the usual suspects who I will no longer address personally would have to run to the bathroom for having sh*t fits over it all.


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29 Mar 2015, 11:32 pm

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I could go on about the right's rejection of science, and their revisionist view of history, but the usual suspects who I will no longer address personally would have to run to the bathroom for having sh*t fits over it all.


How quaint, all these years and you still think I'm right wing or care about the right wing. Can you even actually defend your positions, or is attacking others to try and distract them all you can do?


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30 Mar 2015, 7:10 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
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And I thought liberals were supposed to be smart.

Taking a side swipe at the old enemy eh!

We libs don't claim to be smart, we are just darn socialists and humanitarians!


Well, even if we're not so smart, at least we don't think that the free market would have ended racism, poverty, and strife if only allowed to operate unfettered, without any interference by the government trying to make life better for people, like libertarians and conservatives constantly say it would. That, and that the free market is actually being guided by God almighty - now that's just not dumb, it's absolutely insane. I could go on about the right's rejection of science, and their revisionist view of history, but the usual suspects who I will no longer address personally would have to run to the bathroom for having sh*t fits over it all.


The conservative/right wing in the western (English speaking) world know their social outlook is based on Darwinian survival of the fittest. They therefore abhor intellectualism as it rationalises that free market economics and right wing social views are inherently based on the law of the jungle (where the toughest and meanest "hombres" rule and form the elite).

You'll often hear the slur "left wing intellectuals" ...."oh they think they are so smart!"



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30 Mar 2015, 9:52 am

cyberdad wrote:
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And I thought liberals were supposed to be smart.

Taking a side swipe at the old enemy eh!

We libs don't claim to be smart, we are just darn socialists and humanitarians!


Well, even if we're not so smart, at least we don't think that the free market would have ended racism, poverty, and strife if only allowed to operate unfettered, without any interference by the government trying to make life better for people, like libertarians and conservatives constantly say it would. That, and that the free market is actually being guided by God almighty - now that's just not dumb, it's absolutely insane. I could go on about the right's rejection of science, and their revisionist view of history, but the usual suspects who I will no longer address personally would have to run to the bathroom for having sh*t fits over it all.


The conservative/right wing in the western (English speaking) world know their social outlook is based on Darwinian survival of the fittest. They therefore abhor intellectualism as it rationalises that free market economics and right wing social views are inherently based on the law of the jungle (where the toughest and meanest "hombres" rule and form the elite).

You'll often hear the slur "left wing intellectuals" ...."oh they think they are so smart!"


Absolutely true. And for those libertarians who deny being to the right: well, if the shoe fits... Since after all, they embrace the same notion that the free market should be unshackled as do conservatives. That, and conservatives, if anything, have been embracing libertarianism as of late, and so the two schools of thought are merging.


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