Soon, US and al-Qaeda will be seen as allies

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Jordanian MP: US Equipping Al-Qaeda in Syria, Region

And we will see what al CIAda really is. A tool to take down countries in the Middle East, and a vocal point of fear to use again western countries. The truth will be disgusting, and demonstrate the west's addiction to $$$$$.

After these militants, terrorists, paid mercenaries (or whatever you want to call them) are done in Syria, what country will they head to to destabilize them using the resources given to them?

Most soldiers have a feeling that this constant war is a farce. Why don't we listen to them a little more?

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The American military industrial complex has been doing this for a long time. It's just that now they're doing it out in public.

This book was written by Major General Smedley Butler in 1936:

http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/artic ... racket.htm

"Beware the military industrial complex..."


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Unlikely

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So the fact this is an Iranian newspaper with possible ties to the Revolutionary Guard does not stop you from thinking about it?

Why not? Everyone is having a hard time believing what western media outlets report, which is why their viewship is in decline. Hillary Clinton also makes a point of this, that they are losing the "information war" And she says that people are turning more to outlets like Al Jazeera. But she neglects to state the fact that Al Jazeera is basically a western outlet.

Anyways, I have a hard time swallowing that they aren't in a relationship that benefits the west.

You have a hard time swallowing that not every single thing that supports your worldview is true...

So you go around claiming media bias for things you don't like on this forum, which includes you spamming with biased sources known particularly for conspiracy theories, especially against America...but it is OK when you like what they say since it is against America, that's fine. That's completely impartial.

I have a feeling I am going to try to nail Jell-O to a wall for the rest of this thread and might stop now...

The US helped to create Al Queda during the soviet occupation of Afganistan in the first place, and the US and Al Queda were know to be unwitting allies during the Bosnian crises - seeking to save Bosnian Muslims and ethnic Albanians from genocide.

So unlike the mythical never extant alliance between Al Queda and Saddam Hussien that was our justification for the Iraq war- the alliance between the USA and AL Queda has already been very real.

We are expanding our war against Al Queda by infiltrating Yemen, but Al Queda has benifited from the fall of secular arab dictators like Khaddaffi (whom the USA also hated) so they are both our enemies and our unwitting allies in the aftermath of the Arab spring. Elements who call themselves "Al Queda" may indeed be being armed in Syria by the USA. And AL Queda is a rival to the Iranian regime for influence in the middle east. So some deliberate witting alliance with some local Al Queda groups might be happening.

I'm not very partial to whacky conspiracy theories, but this is just plain as the day, that AQ became something during the Afghan war and that was due to the American support - it was "The Base" and it provided logistics and training for the Mujahedeeen, all recruits and all supplies came via AQ. So any expertise or equipment the Americans loaned, would have been in the context of giving it to AQ, since they were the only interface with the Mujahedeen and training and logistics is what they did, and what the US wished to give. I don't buy for a second that the US wasn't interfacing via AQ, because it's not only unlikely, it's flat out impossible to have supported the Mujahedeen in that way except by assisting AQ.

And of course in the Yugoslav conflict, Syria, Libya etc we see the relationship clearly still exists. Secular regimes are being attacked by Islamic radical fundamentalists with US support. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that they're done with terrorizing the American populace, now that fear has neutralized their will to freedom, and a state security apparatus worthy of the Soviets is now in place should that ever change. Mission accomplished. Now it's time to set up quasi-Islamic theocracies all across the Middle East; it'll keep those pesky democrats and socialists under control. Lockheed Martin says "more Irans please".

The events that took place after 9/11 simply don't add up to our cause we set forth to commit ourselves to. It's gone way beyond and it's had implications for US citizens. Too many "strange coincidences" to say 9/11 wasn't planned out beforehand. No, I won't believe the official story until it acknowledges these things. But they won't because it will only hurt their cause, I guarantee that. So they trudge on with half-truths and complete fabrications that taint anything that was true.

And no single source of information has shown that what I put forth is true. It's a collaboration of sources and history that led me to believe we are on a crusade of lies. I can think for myself, I don't need the media to explicitly form my views for me. I also accept that there are things I don't know about, but in all these posting of mine, I don't fine much if anything at all that counters what I've been saying. Anyone is free to point out something I said was wrong or misguided. I'm not here to defense what I feel is FALSE, I'm here to debate what is TRUE. Correct me! Don't let me living life believing in a lie! But back yourself up! Don't just say, "Unlikely".

Anyways, why should I be more biased towards western media? Can't you see that there are many reasons not to take those outlets so seriously?

Yep...Jell-O to a wall...you blame the Jews for that, too?

Nice, I will try and check it out.

Are there any more contemporary books out there that touches upon this subject? I'm sick of looking through media articles and videos, and would like to read about the origins of such groups as al-Qaeda in a nice thick book.

Zionist Jews, Christian Zionists, the Saudi royal family isn't Jewish or Christian as far as I know of, but they take some of the blame, and I guess there were some regular knuckleheads mixed in with the exceptional knuckleheads that were involved as well.

Are you saying there weren't any Jews involved?

So you are saying the United States is operating as a Zionist occupied government? Am I getting that right?