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RhettOracle
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24 Jan 2010, 3:21 am

My sleep schedule has been messed up for years. It's worse lately. I can't seem to sleep for more than about four hours at a time. Then I go to work all day, come home and have a nap for two or three hours, because I can't stay awake anymore. After a few days of this, I get dark circles around my eyes, and bags under them. A problem is waking up from a dead sleep to go to the bathroom. After that, I can't get back to sleep. I'm considering asking my doctor to put me on Ambien or something, long enough to establish a routine.



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24 Jan 2010, 3:32 am

Heh. My sleeping schedule is as follows: I go to sleep at around 3:30 AM. I wake up at 8 or 9 AM. Then, I come home from school, eat, and go to sleep for about 3 hours. Then, I wake up, do my homework, and the cycle repeats again.
I've tried changing my schedule, but no attempts were successful.


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24 Jan 2010, 10:29 am

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I don't know the reason for the problem, but two parts of it here -
Not wanting to face work and the world - It's quiet and i'm on my own at night, i like it. The morning will bring work and people and difficaulties and i will need to get my public face back on and everthing will be hard work.
Efficiency - Going to bed early wastes the evening, before i know it it will be tomorrow and i'll have to do things again, so by staying up i maximise my free time. This is BS though as i waste most of my freetime at the weekend sleeping.


You just described my life.. I've had the same problem for years.. It's 4.30am here and I'm still reading.. Geez!!



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24 Jan 2010, 8:53 pm

Work out and take melatonin. Also, go to a chiropractor. Adjustments can relieve stress on the nervous system.



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25 Jan 2010, 9:24 am

There's definitely two very distinct issues here -

Those who go to bed and can not sleep.

Those who can not make the step to actually decide to get up and go to bed.

I honestly couldn't tell you if i can go to sleep normally becuase i'm always so tired when i finally go to bed i fall asleep within moments and sleep so deeply most of the time i wake up confused and feel drugged for a good while after.



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03 Feb 2010, 10:38 am

:) Since a few months I know why I sleep all night but almost don't get any rest.. my ex-gf told me that I'm talking about my thoughts during the night. I'm actually philosophing about things I thought about that day. That particular night I had this philosophy about new-age terms and the holy Bible, I thought during the night about what is now-a-days called energy while in the Bible there is nowhere mentioned the term energy, it's called life. Lol... Since I was praying to God and asked if I would not talk anymore in my sleep I stopped doing that, perhaps I should also ask to stop thinking during my sleep :) (good thought for this night, have to remember that).



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03 Feb 2010, 10:55 am

I...wow, ok. So at this point I've been up for about 31 hours after staying up much too late 2 days ago and going to bed at 4AM when I had to get up at 10AM. So last night when I got up from behind my laptop I looked at the clock (I never check the clock on my laptop) to find it was 5AM, at which point I just decided to stay up and go to sleep early today.

So I can relate to this, very much. It's been like this since I was but a wee lad, my mom had tried drugs to help me sleep (don't remember the names) but they just made me sleep longer and feel half-asleep when awake. They also messed up what pathetic excuse for a sleeping pattern I had even more.

If I do manage to force myself to get in bed, then I don' thave much difficulty falling asleep. I do stay awake for an hour or so, thinking about things, though.


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03 Feb 2010, 1:24 pm

I've just had two nights where my wife went to bed late so i went to sleep with her. The trigger of her being there and asking if i'm coming is enough when i actually want to come.

But i feel more tired than usual, this is a regular issue i have. I think i go into siege mentality, i'm fighting my tiredness so my body (or my mind?) enters a certain state to deal with it. When i have a bit more sleep it goes back into normal mode and i actually feel worse.

This doesn't help me with going to sleep at night, there's no reward if i manage 7 hours instead of 4-5, at least for 1 or 2 nights. So that's like 4 hours of my life wasted over the last two nights, that's 2 films for example. I'll never get that time back and i've not gotten anything in return.



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03 Feb 2010, 1:34 pm

Have you thought about going to the doctor and asking for some sleeping pills?

I see only RhettOracle has mentioned that option so far - although I'd personally recommend Lunesta over Ambien because it has a longer half-life and actually makes you feel refreshed after you wake up, whereas in my experience Ambien lasts for only four hours or so and makes you wake up feeling more tired than before you went to sleep.


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03 Feb 2010, 2:11 pm

hmm Lunesta gets a score of 2.6 (with a range to 5) at http://www.askapatient.com/viewrating.a ... me=LUNESTA while ambien is rated 3.2, just like Trazodone is rated over there. Anyone knows of a really good sleep aid over here that actually works? I tried almost everything.. I'm now simply excercising 2 hours a day and have a good day schedule (i think which is the best remedy).

I'm currently taking 50mg Seroquel (before I requested and received 300 mg which did something for a day) which does nothing.



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03 Feb 2010, 2:36 pm

Locustman wrote:
I'd personally recommend Lunesta over Ambien because it has a longer half-life and actually makes you feel refreshed after you wake up.

Thank you for that information! I'll ask the doctor about it, if I ever go through with it.



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03 Feb 2010, 3:41 pm

johanstruijk82 wrote:
hmm Lunesta gets a score of 2.6 (with a range to 5) at http://www.askapatient.com/viewrating.a ... me=LUNESTA while ambien is rated 3.2, just like Trazodone is rated over there. Anyone knows of a really good sleep aid over here that actually works? I tried almost everything.. I'm now simply excercising 2 hours a day and have a good day schedule (i think which is the best remedy).

I'm currently taking 50mg Seroquel (before I requested and received 300 mg which did something for a day) which does nothing.


Fair enough - the sleeping med I'm on is Zopiclone, which has been available on prescription in the UK for two decades now. It's chemically related to Lunesta, but isn't quite the same compound. I only suggested Lunesta because it's the nearest thing to Zopiclone that's available in the States, and I was assuming - possibly wrongly - that most of the people who post on this site are American.

It gets a decent write-up here :

http://www.revolutionhealth.com/drugs-t ... r-insomnia

I know that these drugs are wildly variable in terms of both their efficacy and their side-effects though, so my experience may be atypical. I've heard from people who have tried it that Trazodone is the most effective of the lot - contrary to that rating - but I've yet to find a doctor who will willingly prescribe it.


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03 Feb 2010, 6:17 pm

Give yourself a fixed bedtime.
Mine is 10:30 and I read 1 chapter of a book and then go to bed.
Still takes me awhile to sleep. Even when the TV is down low I still can't sleep.
I tell myself a little story and after an hour I fall to sleep.


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04 Feb 2010, 9:23 am

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OMG that is exactly it! I always think to myself "this is MY time. The only time I have for me. If I go to bed, it's over". Meanwhile I love to sleep. I love my bed. I love my pillows. Come morning I'd pay good money to be able to sleep some more.


You just described me perfectly. :lol:



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04 Feb 2010, 10:37 am

:( .......0137........yep, I hear you.

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04 Feb 2010, 5:34 pm

I understand. I get energetic and restless in the evenings. milk, breathing exercises, and cooling my body seem to help me relax. (01:00)