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15 Mar 2011, 10:24 am

I detest them thoroughly.
You know, the ones who sit in your classes and stalk you. Just because you have "Asperger's" and an IEP.
I don't even need them, and they boss me around constantly. It really pisses me off.

Anyone else?



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15 Mar 2011, 4:07 pm

This is a difficult situation, because the paraprofessional wants to do something, does not want the embarrassment of having nothing to do, so they do something---at your expense.

One thing, and I really learned this working at H&R Block when I overexplained to clients at the beginning: Less is more. And many artists know this. In fact, Block convinced me I have the social skills I could have become a doctor. Alas, I am now 48. (H&R Block is also an unethical company because they don't want you to meaningfully inform your clients of the potential of third-party bank collection on their bank and loan products. I went ahead and informed my clients anyway!)

Maybe if you said to the paraprofessional. 'You know, I can do a lot of things on my own. And it is good for me to do things on my own.' Maybe you'd need to do this in the context of a sit-down meeting. Maybe you'd need to have a parent present. A lot would depend on how reasonable the particular paraprofessional is.

Maybe other people can come up with better ideas.



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15 Mar 2011, 4:13 pm

Ask them to fetch coffee or your dry cleaning.


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15 Mar 2011, 5:20 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:
Ask them to fetch coffee or your dry cleaning.


Ha, if only I could. Nice idea, though. :lol:



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15 Mar 2011, 6:26 pm

It depends on who it is. I have had some that I liked, and some that I didn't like.

I will admit that I have a "special room" at school called the "babababababa room" for no reason whatsoever. I just like to call it that.

I had one person who wanted me to be in the room at all times. I remember my dad told me he wanted me to go to class once and I told her that and she said do "whatever makes you happy". I said well, my dad wants me to go to cl-" She said "whatever makes you happy again."

She also didn't respond to me unless I said her name. She assumed that I was just talking to myself if I didn't say her name. That was a little odd and hard too remember, but it wasn't that bad.

I stopped working with about a month and a bit into the school year. I still encounter her sometimes. Once, my regular person was away and she called me to let me know. I went to the room where all the SEAs (as we call them) and special needs kids. (Typically more severe than me, I don't usually hang out them). The SEA I was working with before told me to go and talk to my teacher about it. He had nothing worked out so I went back. There was a girl that I don't get along with leaving the room at time. I decided to sit in the room until they got something worked out. The SEA that I don't like shooed me out. This is what happened after (I am "A", she is "Q" and the girl I don't like is "M"):

Q: A, go to your room.

A: Why?

Q: Because this is M's room.

A: She isn't here right now.

Q: She will be coming back.

A: Well, I'm still allowed here.

Q: Well this is M's spot, she has her spot, you have your spot, go there.

This person is nice to everyone except me and maybe one or two other people.

I haven't had any major problems with any other SEAs, except a few subs.


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15 Mar 2011, 6:29 pm

ocdgirl123 wrote:
It depends on who it is. I have had some that I liked, and some that I didn't like.

I will admit that I have a "special room" at school called the "babababababa room" for no reason whatsoever. I just like to call it that.

I had one person who wanted me to be in the room at all times. I remember my dad told me he wanted me to go to class once and I told her that and she said do "whatever makes you happy". I said well, my dad wants me to go to cl-" She said "whatever makes you happy again."

She also didn't respond to me unless I said her name. She assumed that I was just talking to myself if I didn't say her name. That was a little odd and hard too remember, but it wasn't that bad.

I stopped working with about a month and a bit into the school year. I still encounter her sometimes. Once, my regular person was away and she called me to let me know. I went to the room where all the SEAs (as we call them) and special needs kids. (Typically more severe than me, I don't usually hang out them). The SEA I was working with before told me to go and talk to my teacher about it. He had nothing worked out so I went back. There was a girl that I don't get along with leaving the room at time. I decided to sit in the room until they got something worked out. The SEA that I don't like shooed me out. This is what happened after (I am "A", she is "Q" and the girl I don't like is "M"):

Q: A, go to your room.

A: Why?

Q: Because this is M's room.

A: She isn't here right now.

Q: She will be coming back.

A: Well, I'm still allowed here.

Q: Well this is M's spot, she has her spot, you have your spot, go there.

This person is nice to everyone except me and maybe one or two other people.

I haven't had any major problems with any other SEAs, except a few subs.


Sounds like you need them. I don't even need them; that's part of what irritates me so much.



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15 Mar 2011, 6:35 pm

jmnixon95 wrote:
ocdgirl123 wrote:
It depends on who it is. I have had some that I liked, and some that I didn't like.

I will admit that I have a "special room" at school called the "babababababa room" for no reason whatsoever. I just like to call it that.

I had one person who wanted me to be in the room at all times. I remember my dad told me he wanted me to go to class once and I told her that and she said do "whatever makes you happy". I said well, my dad wants me to go to cl-" She said "whatever makes you happy again."

She also didn't respond to me unless I said her name. She assumed that I was just talking to myself if I didn't say her name. That was a little odd and hard too remember, but it wasn't that bad.

I stopped working with about a month and a bit into the school year. I still encounter her sometimes. Once, my regular person was away and she called me to let me know. I went to the room where all the SEAs (as we call them) and special needs kids. (Typically more severe than me, I don't usually hang out them). The SEA I was working with before told me to go and talk to my teacher about it. He had nothing worked out so I went back. There was a girl that I don't get along with leaving the room at time. I decided to sit in the room until they got something worked out. The SEA that I don't like shooed me out. This is what happened after (I am "A", she is "Q" and the girl I don't like is "M"):

Q: A, go to your room.

A: Why?

Q: Because this is M's room.

A: She isn't here right now.

Q: She will be coming back.

A: Well, I'm still allowed here.

Q: Well this is M's spot, she has her spot, you have your spot, go there.

This person is nice to everyone except me and maybe one or two other people.

I haven't had any major problems with any other SEAs, except a few subs.


Sounds like you need them. I don't even need them; that's part of what irritates me so much.


Yeah, I do need them, I just like to have someone I get along well.

It's understandable to be annoyed about having them if you don't need. If I didn't need them, I wouldn't want them either.


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15 Mar 2011, 6:49 pm

There's so many kids that seem to have autism/AS so much milder than me on I.E.P's, doing behavioural therapy or on special diets. When I was a kid I was just told I was weird and that was it.
Anyway, just tell your parents and teachers that you don't need it. Or even say you've outgrown the need for them.


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15 Mar 2011, 6:50 pm

jmnixon95 wrote:
I detest them thoroughly.
You know, the ones who sit in your classes and stalk you. Just because you have "Asperger's" and an IEP.
I don't even need them, and they boss me around constantly. It really pisses me off.

Anyone else?



Are these aids you are talking about that follow you from class to class and sit at the back of the room?


I had one and she pissed me off sometimes. I finally had one in 6th grade and I didn't like it when she followed me around. Even on the playground. And I did need one. In 6th grade I hated it because it was embarrassing and I thought kids were going to make fun of me for it and I felt ret*d literally and it was abnormal. Then after we moved to Montana, I embraced it because I was having so many problems and I felt safer with someone and my school work was hard. Plus no one made fun of me for it so it didn't bother me. Then it pissed me off at times in high school because my aid was sometimes annoying and I wasn't allowed to be goofy like the other kids. Then when she wouldn't be around, I'd act goofy and make kids laugh and I used to do things to get my aid's reaction. I used to put my hair tie around my mouth and ask her what she thinks of it and she'd tell me I look stupid.



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15 Mar 2011, 7:01 pm

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Anyway, just tell your parents and teachers that you don't need it. Or even say you've outgrown the need for them.


I have. I've been doing so for three years, and my parents say they 'understand', yet the parapros are still sitting there, annoying me. :roll:
I take Gifted/AP (college) classes, so my teachers don't really care... if I told the lady in charge of the ASD program (who I hardly even know because I don't go to her Special Ed class...) that I don't need her parapros, she'd probably just roll her eyes.



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15 Mar 2011, 7:02 pm

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jmnixon95 wrote:
I detest them thoroughly.
You know, the ones who sit in your classes and stalk you. Just because you have "Asperger's" and an IEP.
I don't even need them, and they boss me around constantly. It really pisses me off.

Anyone else?



Are these aids you are talking about that follow you from class to class and sit at the back of the room?


I had one and she pissed me off sometimes. I finally had one in 6th grade and I didn't like it when she followed me around. Even on the playground. And I did need one. In 6th grade I hated it because it was embarrassing and I thought kids were going to make fun of me for it and I felt ret*d literally and it was abnormal. Then after we moved to Montana, I embraced it because I was having so many problems and I felt safer with someone and my school work was hard. Plus no one made fun of me for it so it didn't bother me. Then it pissed me off at times in high school because my aid was sometimes annoying and I wasn't allowed to be goofy like the other kids. Then when she wouldn't be around, I'd act goofy and make kids laugh and I used to do things to get my aid's reaction. I used to put my hair tie around my mouth and ask her what she thinks of it and she'd tell me I look stupid.


They're in two of my classes, and they say that they're "there for other students."

... Please. :roll:



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15 Mar 2011, 7:04 pm

Is this the UK education system?


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15 Mar 2011, 7:04 pm

Laz wrote:
Is this the UK education system?


Nope.



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15 Mar 2011, 7:07 pm

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Laz wrote:
Is this the UK education system?


Nope.


Ah good I can wash my hands of this then :mrgreen:


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15 Mar 2011, 7:08 pm

Laz wrote:
jmnixon95 wrote:
Laz wrote:
Is this the UK education system?


Nope.


Ah good I can wash my hands of this then :mrgreen:


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16 Mar 2011, 1:52 pm

jmnixon95 wrote:
. . ... if I told the lady in charge of the ASD program (who I hardly even know because I don't go to her Special Ed class...) that I don't need her parapros, she'd probably just roll her eyes.

This is standard bureaucratic response. Any change, even one that would seemingly require less resources, tends to be resisted.

Not as an obligation but merely as a possibility, would you be open to trying different experiments in coaching, in informal and low-key manner, students who have more severe issues than yourself?