Verdandi wrote:
swbluto wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
swbluto wrote:
There's a sense of intuition about inferring others' intentions that goes beyond studying. And, the "whole package" suggests a noticeably higher level of NT-ness than average around these parts.
I can do that trick under particular circumstances. I've seen others do it too. I wouldn't make assumptions.
That's good, but from your posts, you're a bit too consistently logical, serious and unemotional for your "whole package" to be considered NT-like, so I wouldn't guess you display a large amount of NT characteristics on the basis of that alone. Btw, I don't think there's anything wrong with being too 'logical', 'serious' or unemotional; if anything, it's virtuous along the same lines as Socrates. Or, if you prefer same-gendered historical figures, Hypatia.
I meant the sense of intuition about inferring others' intentions. However, since it only works with some people or with the way people tend to say certain specific things and mean certain other specific things, it's probably not intuition.
I know you meant the sense of intuition about inferring others' intentions. My reply was suggesting that I wouldn't infer that you were NT based on that characteristic alone (Like it seemed like you suggested that I was thinking, i.e., that I was thinking if people can do that, they're NT), whereas I would infer silvershoelaces(? I'm working from memory) is probably more NT than average based on the "total package", including her sensing of intention on the basis of ones tonality and other characteristics of hers, like her sensitivity, gentleness, emotionality and .... NTness.
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It's a difference that's still within "normal variation", as far as the emotional and TOM side of life goes, so I would personally consider it neurotypical.
So "neurodiversity" is strictly autistic and not autistic? That's not very diverse.
The state of being neurotypical is about what's typical, and neurotypical thinking doesn't allow for much diversity.
According to most NTs, you're either autistic or not autistic, and not being autistic allows one to fit in *somewhere* among NT society as opposed to pretty much nowhere. (Obviously, I'm not considering psychiatric disorders like schizophrenia)
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Anyway, ADHD is not within "normal variation" as far as emotional goes - Barkley wants to get emotional dysregulation into the DSM-V definition of ADHD because of impulsiveness and a lack of neurological function in many people with ADHD that relates to controlling your social behavior on the basis of consequences. Or how NTs use particular parts of the brain to self-regulate their behavior whereas these areas are typically inactive in people with ADHD, forcing them to adapt by working through part of their brain that involves emotion, meaning that emotions are typically raw in comparison to NTs, closer to the surface, and much less likely to be inhibited before causing problems. NTs are typically unsympathetic toward ADHD difficulties because "everyone deals with that" and they don't get that it is a difference of magnitude.
Oh, poppycock. ADHD people can accurately express and interpret happiness and other emotional states just as well as the average person. Sure, I guess there might be differences in the ability to inhibit ones behavior, but wearing your heart on your sleeves hardly makes ones outside of "normal variation" in nearly the same way as autistics are.