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Recently you may have heard about birds and fish dying. This has happened in multiple parts of the world. Some of these are of the same stories, but it is often good to have multiple news sources to understand a clearer perspective.

Here is a collection of links to birds and fish that have died.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40885546/ns ... vironment/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ky-Arkansa
s-city.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... g--single-
garden.html
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/sto ... 01&catid=2
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-12104527
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread205718/pg1
http://www.wbrz.com/news/expert-says-st ... -of-birds/
http://www.wbrz.com/news/hundreds-of-de ... new-roads/
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-01-02/us/a ... aths?_s=PM
:US
http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.acti ... 4978868785
http://www2.wnct.com/news/2010/nov/23/1 ... ar-562762/
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookou ... -louisiana

Now, you are all probably away to call me mental, and that is fine with me, but people need to start researching what is really going on. For quite a while, after I became interested in environmentalism I started to look deeper and deeper into corporate and government corruption all around the world. It then became quite apparent that media sources, governments and corporations were hiding and distorting the real facts. I have looked at lots to do with politics, corruption and the NWO (new world order) and their agenda of using fear to help control the masses, allowing them the justification to bring in tighter controls against the public .

Amongst their techniques of creating fear, is to stage false flag operations, such as staged terrorist attacks and creating the wrong impression about terrorist and fighting for peace, using the media to distort and hide the public as to what is really going on.

Most of the media is under tight control by the NWO, who are literally also in control of many governments. If you find that difficult to believe, I can offer a long list of films which have detailed research about the subject. If you have any questions about specific issues though, please feel free to ask.

Now, on to 'Birds dying, electromagnetic energy, the government & sleep.'

Well bird and fish dying speaks for itself. Strange isn't it? Tests confirmed it was not poison and I am sure most of you know that some species are very sensitive to electromagnetic energy. At first I seen the whole story as strange, then after lots of discussion online with friends it all started to become quite clear as to what was really going on.

Part of what the American government, possibly in conjunction with other nations under the control of the NWO, has developed a weather control device. Now if you think that itself, sounds stupid, think about this; why is that films, media and pop culture have tried to make that sound like conspiracy nonesense and sci-fi material for years? They want to leave the public with a false impression as to what is really going on.

The device is called HAARP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequ ... ch_Program

To sum it up in my own words, it is the product of the work of Tesla. To understand HAARP you need to examine Tesla's work.

This is an 45 minute video about his life and his work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5uiK_QnyrE

Basically, the device uses electromagnetic energy (which is something i am no expert in by any means, but i have pieced things together), it reflects this energy off of the Ionosphere and back down to Earth. When it reaches Earth it is stated that it is used for things like detecting underground bases by using its ultra low frequency waves. It can communicate with sub marines, it can detect minerals under the ground. That is all potentially very useful. A major downside is though, that it is heating up the Ionosphere and I do believe it causes it to fluctuate and behave erratically.

With the pin point precision that is possible according to some sources, it can be used to heat up the Ionopshere in such a way that the weather can be engineered. It can create droughts, rainclouds, winds etc etc. The government has used that to help spread things such as Chemtrails in the clouds. To briefly outline chemtrails, it is a mixture of chemicals released by planes designed to make people ill. Ill people are easier to manipulate.

But back to HAARP itself. It is known to be capable of detecting things under the ground, but what happens when you add a lot more energy into it? It can be used to engineer earthquakes and floodings. Why is that in China, 10 minutes before an earthquake there was an unusal sighting of northern / southern lights? Abnormal electro magnetic energy is a viable, although unproven explanation.

This is the video from china:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... ERq_Fv-I-I

Lets move forward to more recently, so a lot of birds and fish have died. There is flooding in Australia, which may or may not have been caused by HAARP. It is possible to be coincidental but there is no way of proving it is or is not. Lets move a few days more forward, there have been an earthquake in south america and one in england. Is it not strange that that happened at the same time all these animals died?

I found myself asking, why at new year? Well I reckon if chemtrails were to be laid down, they might want to do whilst people are preoccupied by celebrating new year. That is unproven though.

On to sleep, friends of mines close to wear birds have fallen and other people in different parts of the world have all complained of difficulty sleeping lately. Electromagnetic energy, of a substantiation amount could easily explain that.

Things are adding up in my opinion.

I do not know if people see this as being a real threat or not, but please, before you make up your minds examine the evidence and search of things on the internet such as HAARP, New World Order and Chemtrails.

Here is a short 10 minute video on HAARP as an introduction to it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnRPZOUVhJ4


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Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:28 pm

Death rays from Black Helicopters.

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Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:37 pm

If you want a serious answer back from me, that IS theoretically possible using Tesla's work, although I do not know if it exists or not. It certainly was researched before world war II. If it is in existence it was kept secret.

All I am asking of people is though, is to look through information I posted, do a bit of their own research and come to their own conclusions. If they see aspects are impractical or not possible that is up to them to decide.


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Thank you, I was wondering if I was the only one making that connection. It seems that it is some sort of electromagnetic abnormality that started at least sometime last year, in 2010, with the massive strings of earthquakes afflicting the world, natural disasters, and other such abnormalities. Now there's this, and it's relatively beyond coincidental. Perhaps a polar reversal is eminent, which would lend some ground to the 2012 theory the government is endeavouring so ardently to suppress.

And anoter note: it doesn't necessarily have to be something Tesla made directly, but an extension of such things. I was thinking more along the lines of certain machines placed in various locations throughout the world broadcasting a certain frequency that could disrupt the Earth's electromagnetic field, precipitating this polar reversal.



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Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:28 pm

PatrickNeville wrote:
If you want a serious answer back from me, that IS theoretically possible using Tesla's work, although I do not know if it exists or not. It certainly was researched before world war II. If it is in existence it was kept secret.

All I am asking of people is though, is to look through information I posted, do a bit of their own research and come to their own conclusions. If they see aspects are impractical or not possible that is up to them to decide.


Tesla got a lot of things right and a lot of things wrong. And we do have Death Rays. They are called high energy lasers.

You can't shoot lightning straight through the atmosphere so forget electric death rays at long range.

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Sonariah wrote:
Thank you, I was wondering if I was the only one making that connection. It seems that it is some sort of electromagnetic abnormality that started at least sometime last year, in 2010, with the massive strings of earthquakes afflicting the world, natural disasters, and other such abnormalities. Now there's this, and it's relatively beyond coincidental. Perhaps a polar reversal is eminent, which would lend some ground to the 2012 theory the government is endeavouring so ardently to suppress.

And anoter note: it doesn't necessarily have to be something Tesla made directly, but an extension of such things. I was thinking more along the lines of certain machines placed in various locations throughout the world broadcasting a certain frequency that could disrupt the Earth's electromagnetic field, precipitating this polar reversal.


Yeah I believe it to be a development of the work he started.

It is a complicated subject and I cannot begin to even say I understand it fully understand.

Chemtrails may be part of a tool to make the public more ill and easier to manipulate, may just be for creating a strong medium in the ionosphere to reflect low frequency waves back down to the planet, or perhaps both. Here is what my friend had to say about the subject:

"The purposes of Chemtrails is replace the ionosphere by an artificial ionosphere. HAARP need this shift for work. They are creating a net. The are creating the Blue Brain.
And. Aerosols is solid, like the shave-cream or Chantilly. Chemstrails (barium and aluminium and batteries) don't dissapear of the air. They stay and is what is killing bugs birds bees fish, and alls.

the idea is modify the entire atmosphere.
So if 20 years ago you saw a sunset like this, in the present you can see it too. We live the same planet. Lol. But the presence of haarp in our atmosphere is imminent.

We are in a modified atmosphere now.

Ionosphere is the sun ray ligth (uv) earth filter. So whit an artificial ionosphere (called officially antimissile protection by media) you can select what "emissions" get into the atmosphere. This is important to talk if you considerate the evolution process of the earth and the cosmic electromagnetic energies coming to the planet specially from the sun."

People asking questions about strange weather patterns here:
http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node%2F5559

A top US official murdered after threatening to expose some kind of biological and / or chemical weapon. That could easily been related to HAARP and it beyond suspicious to me.
http://inteltrends.wordpress.com/2011/0 ... ass-death/

EDIT: a list, which spans the globe of reports of dying animals:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... 308605/pg1

Is it not suspicious that all of the pieces of the puzzle are out there, but no mainstream media source is putting it together for the public? I can say for fact, that the mainstream media, around most of the world, is under control.


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If either of you would like added into a facebook groups I am, where there are a lot of people discussing these events, let me know and I can add you to it.


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PatrickNeville wrote:
Sonariah wrote:
Thank you, I was wondering if I was the only one making that connection. It seems that it is some sort of electromagnetic abnormality that started at least sometime last year, in 2010, with the massive strings of earthquakes afflicting the world, natural disasters, and other such abnormalities. Now there's this, and it's relatively beyond coincidental. Perhaps a polar reversal is eminent, which would lend some ground to the 2012 theory the government is endeavouring so ardently to suppress.

And anoter note: it doesn't necessarily have to be something Tesla made directly, but an extension of such things. I was thinking more along the lines of certain machines placed in various locations throughout the world broadcasting a certain frequency that could disrupt the Earth's electromagnetic field, precipitating this polar reversal.


Yeah I believe it to be a development of the work he started.

It is a complicated subject and I cannot begin to even say I understand it fully understand.

Chemtrails may be part of a tool to make the public more ill and easier to manipulate, may just be for creating a strong medium in the ionosphere to reflect low frequency waves back down to the planet, or perhaps both. Here is what my friend had to say about the subject:

"The purposes of Chemtrails is replace the ionosphere by an artificial ionosphere. HAARP need this shift for work. They are creating a net. The are creating the Blue Brain.
And. Aerosols is solid, like the shave-cream or Chantilly. Chemstrails (barium and aluminium and batteries) don't dissapear of the air. They stay and is what is killing bugs birds bees fish, and alls.

the idea is modify the entire atmosphere.
So if 20 years ago you saw a sunset like this, in the present you can see it too. We live the same planet. Lol. But the presence of haarp in our atmosphere is imminent.

We are in a modified atmosphere now.

Ionosphere is the sun ray ligth (uv) earth filter. So whit an artificial ionosphere (called officially antimissile protection by media) you can select what "emissions" get into the atmosphere. This is important to talk if you considerate the evolution process of the earth and the cosmic electromagnetic energies coming to the planet specially from the sun."

People asking questions about strange weather patterns here:
http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node%2F5559

A top US official murdered after threatening to expose some kind of biological and / or chemical weapon. That could easily been related to HAARP and it beyond suspicious to me.
http://inteltrends.wordpress.com/2011/0 ... ass-death/

EDIT: a list, which spans the globe of reports of dying animals:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... 308605/pg1

Is it not suspicious that all of the pieces of the puzzle are out there, but no mainstream media source is putting it together for the public? I can say for fact, that the mainstream media, around most of the world, is under control.


Straight out of the X-Files. The Truth is Out There (but not in your posting).

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Sonariah wrote:
Thank you, I was wondering if I was the only one making that connection. It seems that it is some sort of electromagnetic abnormality that started at least sometime last year, in 2010, with the massive strings of earthquakes afflicting the world, natural disasters, and other such abnormalities. Now there's this, and it's relatively beyond coincidental. Perhaps a polar reversal is eminent, which would lend some ground to the 2012 theory the government is endeavouring so ardently to suppress.

And anoter note: it doesn't necessarily have to be something Tesla made directly, but an extension of such things. I was thinking more along the lines of certain machines placed in various locations throughout the world broadcasting a certain frequency that could disrupt the Earth's electromagnetic field, precipitating this polar reversal.


Yeah I believe it to be a development of the work he started.

It is a complicated subject and I cannot begin to even say I understand it fully understand.

Chemtrails may be part of a tool to make the public more ill and easier to manipulate, may just be for creating a strong medium in the ionosphere to reflect low frequency waves back down to the planet, or perhaps both. Here is what my friend had to say about the subject:

"The purposes of Chemtrails is replace the ionosphere by an artificial ionosphere. HAARP need this shift for work. They are creating a net. The are creating the Blue Brain.
And. Aerosols is solid, like the shave-cream or Chantilly. Chemstrails (barium and aluminium and batteries) don't dissapear of the air. They stay and is what is killing bugs birds bees fish, and alls.

the idea is modify the entire atmosphere.
So if 20 years ago you saw a sunset like this, in the present you can see it too. We live the same planet. Lol. But the presence of haarp in our atmosphere is imminent.

We are in a modified atmosphere now.

Ionosphere is the sun ray ligth (uv) earth filter. So whit an artificial ionosphere (called officially antimissile protection by media) you can select what "emissions" get into the atmosphere. This is important to talk if you considerate the evolution process of the earth and the cosmic electromagnetic energies coming to the planet specially from the sun."

People asking questions about strange weather patterns here:
http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node%2F5559

A top US official murdered after threatening to expose some kind of biological and / or chemical weapon. That could easily been related to HAARP and it beyond suspicious to me.
http://inteltrends.wordpress.com/2011/0 ... ass-death/

EDIT: a list, which spans the globe of reports of dying animals:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... 308605/pg1

Is it not suspicious that all of the pieces of the puzzle are out there, but no mainstream media source is putting it together for the public? I can say for fact, that the mainstream media, around most of the world, is under control.


Straight out of the X-Files. The Truth is Out There (but not in your posting).

ruveyn


Of course it is out there man. Part of it is in my posts. How about you watch some filmss, take notes and then confirm findings on the internet.

Have a look through some of these if you want:

Conspiritus
The Antichrist dajjal will be a reptilian shape-shifter
The arrivals.
Phase 3
13 Masonic Secrets
The Calling
The Big Picture
The Hour of Our Time by Bill Cooper
The children of the Matrix David icke
Fool me Twice (The Bali Bombings)
Beyond the Cutting Edge David icke
Freedom to Fascism David icke
Zeitgeist the movie
Zeitgeist addendum
The Zeitgeist Movement: Orientation Presentation
Lose change 1 2 and 3
Terrorstorm by Alex Jones.
Endgame By Alex Jones
The Obama Deception by Alex Jones.
Police State 3 by Alex Jones.
Dark Secrets - Inside Bohemian Grove by Alex Jones.
Masters of Terror by Alex Jones.
Martial Law by Alex Jones.
The Road to Tyranny by Alex Jones.
American Dictators by Alex Jones.
Fall of The Republic by Alex Jones.
Truth Rising Alex Jones.
America Freedom to Fascism Aaron Russo
The Ring of Power
Wake Up Call - Remastered Edition
The True Story of Che Guevara
Michael Tsarion - Architects of Control Program One - Mass Control & Future of Mankind
The Cove
Zero "an investigation into 911"
911 in plane site
911 re-visited
Where in the world is Osama Bin Laden
Fabled Enemies Jason Bermas

The Illuminati- All Conspiracy No Theory by Chris Everard.
The Illuminati 2- The Anti-Christ Conspiracy
by Chris Everard.
The Illuminati 3- Murdered by The Monarchy
by Chris Everard.
The Illuminati 4- The brotherhood of the beast by Chris Everard.
Secret Space 1- The Illuminati Conquest of Space
by Chris Everard.
Secret Space 2- Alien Invasion by Chris Everard.
Lady Die- An Investigation into The Killing Of
HRH Princess Diana- by Chris Everard "

Anyway, if the truth is out there, i would love to hear what you consider to be the real deal in these events and what is the real deal with the NWO?


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Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:04 am

I haven't seen much evidence of truth to these conspiracy theories (then again, I've never looked very thoroughly) but it's no secret that weather manipulation technology is in development and has already been used successfully.

http://www.meteo-systems.com/
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/01/03/sci ... bi-desert/


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Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:13 am

birds falling from the sky in sweden today....

must be the wikileak connection, i reckon! 8)



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People are discussing if HAARP could have killed fish.

Someone says that it could not really penetrate that far under the water.

The things which also spring to mind is, if it did affect the birds in that way, and the operators of HAARP knew this, would they have secretly targeted fish, to make things even harder to solve?

I will quote what my friend said about it, he thinks that it is the chemtrails killing the birds and the fish

"The purpose of Chemtrails is replace the ionosphere by an artificial ionosphere. HAARP need this shift for work. They are creating a net. The are creating the Blue Brain.

And. Aerosols is solid, like the shave-cream or Chantilly. Chemstrails (barium and aluminium and batteries) don't dissapear of the air. They stay and is what is killing bugs birds bees fish, and alls.

We are in a modified atmosphere now.

Ionosphere is the sun ray ligth (uv) earth filter. So whit an artificial ionosphere (called officially antimissile protection by media) you can select what "emissions" get into the atmosphere. This is important to talk if you considerate the evolution process of the earth and the cosmic electromagnetic energies coming to the planet specially from the sun."

People argue about what chemtrails are for, but maybe all the answers are right. Some people say they lay down chemicals so that GM crops have to be created which are resistant to these chemicals, others say that the chemicals are designed dumb people down without them realising it. What the guy said on a discussion page about it on facebook, as you can see above in quotations, is that the chemtrails are there to create an artificial ionosphere, which i would guess, makes it a lot easier for it to be used effectively.

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Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:55 pm

Conspiracy is just a word conjured up and used by governments and media to make "ridiculous theories" sound ridiculous. You need to try and look a lot deeper at the evidence in what is really going above our governments without the publics knowledge. You can make stupid comments about wikileaks if yous want, but if you really want to learn if it is fake or real, why not spend some time actually asking questions?

EDIT: if either of you are on facebook, you are welcome to join the HAARP and Chemtrails activists group, where a collection of information and factual discussion is going on.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/home.php?sk= ... 31173&ap=1


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Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:00 pm

I know exactly what they're spraying. I've seen it.

It's a chemical called dihydrogen monoxide. http://www.dhmo.org/

















































































Seriously, any of you "chemtrail" conspiracy theory psychos ever see vapor trails actually being formed?

It's from an old principle called the Bernoulli effect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli%27s_principle

Animals die by the thousands every day yet people only seem to notice when it happens in the 'burbs, huh?


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Contrails and chemtrails are two totally different things.

This link will take you straight to the summary about it. The full workings of the study are above.
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/report.shtml#summary

EDIT: some info about the chemical analysis of chemtrails
http://www.mysteriousnewzealand.co.nz/r ... micalcompo

Can't say i have looked at every source, but from what i have researched, the amount of toxic chemicals are not the same as ones found in contrails. Pretty sad to think something who seems are bright as yourself, actually puts things down before examining the evidence. I can say I can relate to that though. I used to think it was all stupid, then started piecing it together.

As I said before, if you have problems with believing it, take it straight to the people who are trying to raise awareness for it, instead of leaving meaningless comments about what i am trying to tell people.
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