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ArrantPariah
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Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:48 pm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 234458.htm

It does seem obvious, but at least science has now provided proof.

Let's see: some of the most homophobic people include Frothy Santorum, Prick Perry, Marcus Bachman....maybe a couple of "Conservatives" who frequent WrongPlanet...

Ron Paul never tore into homosexuals, and, indeed, checked out as a non-homosexual in the Bruno movie.

Is Mitt Romney anti-Gay?



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Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:50 pm

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Is Mitt Romney anti-Gay?


To the extent that it will get him votes. Mitt the Plastic Mormon lives on votes. It is his natural fodder.

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Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:08 pm

ruveyn wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:

Is Mitt Romney anti-Gay?


To the extent that it will get him votes. Mitt the Plastic Mormon lives on votes. It is his natural fodder.

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Votes, and money. The anti-Gay money and votes will naturally be cumming his way. He won't even have to engage in a whole lot of formal gay-bashing.

Here is one Republican candidate for Congress who recently emerged from the closet

http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/ ... tions.html

Being queer, of course, meant that he had to give up his position as Co-Chairman of Romney's campaign in his state

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/ ... ays-im-gay

But, he is still running for Congress. Well, good for him. We need more honest Repugnicans.



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Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:23 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:

Is Mitt Romney anti-Gay?


To the extent that it will get him votes. Mitt the Plastic Mormon lives on votes. It is his natural fodder.

ruveyn


Votes, and money. The anti-Gay money and votes will naturally be cumming his way. He won't even have to engage in a whole lot of formal gay-bashing.

Here is one Republican candidate for Congress who recently emerged from the closet

http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/ ... tions.html

Being queer, of course, meant that he had to give up his position as Co-Chairman of Romney's campaign in his state

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/ ... ays-im-gay

But, he is still running for Congress. Well, good for him. We need more honest Repugnicans.


You continued existence is proof of just how far someone can go on this forum without being banned......



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Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:35 pm

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You continued existence is proof of just how far someone can go on this forum without being banned......


The link he provided is not from some obscure hate oriented site. I also do not see anything being said that is out of line... Though the actual article title is "Is *some* homophobia self-phobia?" so "Homophobes are gay" is not exactly accurate


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Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:49 pm

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You continued existence is proof of just how far someone can go on this forum without being banned......


What are you getting at?



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Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:51 pm

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the actual article title is "Is *some* homophobia self-phobia?" so "Homophobes are gay" is not exactly accurate


Do you know of any homophobes who aren't gay? I really couldn't think of a counter-example.



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Well, here we are.

http://www.dallasvoice.com/santorums-de ... 06641.html

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Romney, backed by most LGBT Republicans, likely to veer toward center as primary’s most socially conservative contender steps aside

Former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum was one of the most virulently anti-gay candidates in the large field of Republican presidential wannabes who started out last year. And most political observers said early on and often that Santorum’s harsh positions against gays and same-sex marriage were dooming his chances to carry the GOP mantle into the general election where moderation wins votes.

Santorum stayed in the race, even as more viable Republican candidates dropped out and threw their support to the more moderate former Gov. Mitt Romney.

But Santorum announced at a press conference Tuesday, April 10, in Gettysburg, Penn., that he was suspending his campaign. And in doing so, he gave a subtle nod to Romney.

“While this presidential race for us is over for me and we will suspend our campaign effective today, we are not done fighting,” said Santorum. He pledged his support for defeating President Barack Obama’s re-election, for keeping Republicans in control of the House, and to help Republicans assume control of the Senate.

Ironically, especially to LGBT people listening to his remarks Tuesday, Santorum counted among his supporters, “people who are overlooked by society or don’t seem to be as valuable as others in society.”

Santorum repeatedly made statements during nationally televised debates and elsewhere on the campaign that undermined LGBT citizens.

He said he wanted to reinstate the ban on gays in the military and said nothing, during one debate, in defense of a gay soldier being booed. Instead, Santorum characterized the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell” as “tragic” and said it gave gays a “special privilege.”

He also boasted of his active campaign to oust three Iowa state supreme court justices who had ruled that the state constitution guaranteed gay couples the same rights as heterosexual couples seeking marriage licenses. And Santorum promised that, if elected president, he would travel the country to try and repeal state laws that allow marriage equality — even in states where voters want to keep those laws. Santorum’s departure now enables Romney to take a great deal more latitude in playing for voters in the vast middle of the political spectrum, a place that should mean a lot less prominence for positions such as Republican opposition to marriage equality.

Santorum noted that his daughter Bella was hospitalized over the weekend and that she is doing “exceptionally well” now, but he acknowledged that her illness “did cause us to pause and think” about her well-being.

Santorum said his campaign started out as being an effort, as a good parent, to ensure that the “American dream” was possible for all children.

But Santorum or his supporters often tried to exploit hostility toward LGBT people and their families. One group of supporters sent out robo-calls and emails saying that Romney “promoted homosexuality in our elementary schools, and unconstitutionally ordered state officials to make Massachusetts America’s first same-sex marriage state.”

A woman on the recording claimed Romney supported “open homosexuality in the military, the appointment of homosexual judges, and the ENDA law, making it illegal to fire a man who wears a dress and high heels to work, even if he’s your kid’s teacher.”

Straw polls and informal surveys and interviews with gay Republicans indicated that most were supporting Romney and none were supporting Santorum during the party’s primaries and caucuses in the early states.


So, homosexuals are [mod edit: coming] out in droves for Romney, while Frothy is very likely one of them.

I actually got one of those robocalls from the Santorum campaign. I found it hilarious. :lmao:

I can see where a homosexual would have found the calls offensive, but I couldn't help but laugh. The call was so childish, and might just as well have been "Mitt Romney is a Homosexual! Neener-neener-neener" Who could possibly take something like that seriously? :lmao:



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Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:39 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
the actual article title is "Is *some* homophobia self-phobia?" so "Homophobes are gay" is not exactly accurate


Do you know of any homophobes who aren't gay? I really couldn't think of a counter-example.

They're always closeted, so we don't know for sure whether they're gay or not. There have, of course, been some homophobes who've been "outed," and supposedly it's been found that searches for gay porn are the most common in socially conservative areas, but that hardly allows us to say that all homophobes are themselves gay.



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Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:47 pm

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You continued existence is proof of just how far someone can go on this forum without being banned......


The link he provided is not from some obscure hate oriented site. I also do not see anything being said that is out of line... Though the actual article title is "Is *some* homophobia self-phobia?" so "Homophobes are gay" is not exactly accurate


It's the sheer volume of these kinds of threads that I'm talking about, not this one in particular.
BTW, the "out of line" thingy doesn't mean anything to me unless someone was actually standing in a line and left it.
I don't know or care to know what it means in this context or one like it, period.



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Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:23 pm

"Ergo all homophobes are gay" sounds fallacious to me. How do you even define homophobe? Personally, I could be one one day and not another depending on my mood. In general, I don't mind gays. You're taking the position of a property being applied to a certain group of people and saying that applies to the whole group.



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Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:32 pm

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"Ergo all homophobes are gay" sounds fallacious to me. How do you even define homophobe? Personally, I could be one one day and not another depending on my mood. In general, I don't mind gays. You're taking the position of a property being applied to a certain group of people and saying that applies to the whole group.


He only does it to provoke responses.....



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Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:34 pm

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"Ergo all homophobes are gay" sounds fallacious to me. How do you even define homophobe? Personally, I could be one one day and not another depending on my mood. In general, I don't mind gays. You're taking the position of a property being applied to a certain group of people and saying that applies to the whole group.


He only does it to provoke responses.....


Well... isn't that the point of any thread? To provoke a response? Though incite would usually be the word used


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Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:36 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
the actual article title is "Is *some* homophobia self-phobia?" so "Homophobes are gay" is not exactly accurate


Do you know of any homophobes who aren't gay? I really couldn't think of a counter-example.



I've met a few homophobic straight chicks who clearly aren't gay whatsoever. What cracks me up is how you promulgate the retarded stereotype that 100% of homophobes are MEN.



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