Harvard brain collection lost, autism research delayed.



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Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:41 am

NOS.nl (Dutch public news) reported this, sources:
http://articles.boston.com/2012-06-11/n ... ch-freezer
http://nos.nl/artikel/382689-vriezer-de ... dooid.html

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150 brains thawed, some 50 of those from autistics. Dr. Pardo had established causality between the immune system and autism using this collection in 2004. Further research is expect to be hampered by this loss. The director of the Harvard Brain Tissue Resource Center said the situation is so unusual (alarm and thermostat failure plus the concentration of samples) that she cannot rule out foul play. The collection of autistic brains is owned by autism speaks, who also funds Dr. Pardo's research.

And the opinion bit:
In his study Dr. Pardo expressly (FULL CAPS ON FIRST PAGE) states that nobody should attempt to "treat" autism by influencing the immune system, since the relationship is not understood. Obviously, there are always pseudo-scientists who ignore these things and make money off gullible parents by torturing their autistic children with immune system influencing medication. I wouldn't not be surprised if someone purposely destroyed this collection and hope their eye for detail ;) prevents them from getting caught, but the cat is out of the bag.... shame this slows down understanding the human brain in relation to autism.



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Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:39 am

Man, that sucks. :x

I doubt it was intentional, but if it was, that's just disgraceful. For some reason, I can hardly think of a worse crime. I mean, I know that murder is technically worse, but there is just something so horrific about the idea of destroying potential knowledge.



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Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:45 am

Hmmm ... Suspicious!
For the freezer, the meter AND both alarms to fail at the same time... :? Unlikely



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Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:00 am

You are now entering the Twilight Zone.



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Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:55 am

At first, I imagined this to be a collection of brains in glass jars stolen by an evil madman.
The real news is probably even more tragic, though.



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Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:08 pm

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someone purposely destroyed this collection and hope their eye for detail :wink: prevents them from getting caught


Does the :wink: mean you believe the collection was sabotaged by an autistic person, as those on the spectrum are known for their attention to detail?



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Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:09 pm

I have Aspergers.
My immune systems works splendidly.
Dr.Pardo needs to retire.
We do not need a 'cure', just guidance and supportiveness to help us negotiate and dwell in an alien world.

Were those brains donated in advance, knowingly, or stolen, which has been proven to have happened, time and time again......

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Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:17 pm

Maybe this is bad, but I would laugh if the reason for the malfunction was someone stepping over the power cord and unhooking it without knowing. It'd be like a cartoon except not.

It's probably not that though; I don't think they store organs in that kind of freezer.



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Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:41 pm

Maybe a guy on bath salts ate them?


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Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:56 pm

YippySkippy wrote:
Does the :wink: mean you believe the collection was sabotaged by an autistic person, as those on the spectrum are known for their attention to detail?

If the collection was sabotaged, then yes, I would say it is highly likely. Consider the owner and purpose.

Sylkat wrote:
I have Aspergers.
My immune systems works splendidly.
Dr.Pardo needs to retire.
We do not need a 'cure', just guidance and supportiveness to help us negotiate and dwell in an alien world.

Were those brains donated in advance, knowingly, or stolen, which has been proven to have happened, time and time again......


My girlfriends immune system works fine against the outside world. She does have an auto-immune disease however, so one does not exclude the other.
Dr. Pardo didn't do anything wrong if you ask me. He doesn't advocate a "cure", he researches brains. Like Declension said, knowledge!
Let's not argue about what you, I, or anyone else needs. (But clearly, my classmates would like it if they understood abstract relationships better. Perhaps a pill for that?)

After reading the article, I was under the impression some of the brains are donated by parents. I am suspicious what tactics where used. Not like anyway else was going to use em though. But your reaction lacks sources or argumentation, so not much I can add, anyone got info?



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Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:31 am

A more sinister possibility is that someone from the pharmacutical industry is behind this. Someone who wants to make sure everyone's kids keep getting their many many vaccinations.
Or someone from the government, for the same reason. Remember, the government is concerned with "herd" immunity, not individual safety.



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Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:13 am

I thought Autism Speaks was somewhat controversial, to say the least.


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Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:17 am

YippySkippy wrote:
A more sinister possibility is that someone from the pharmacutical industry is behind this. Someone who wants to make sure everyone's kids keep getting their many many vaccinations.
Or someone from the government, for the same reason. Remember, the government is concerned with "herd" immunity, not individual safety.


Umm vaccinations are against nasty diseases......how would destroying autistic brains have an effect on that? People get vaccinations to avoid diseases not because they think it helps autism. So I am confused. Hell if anything this hurts the pharmacutial industry because it will be harder for a cure to be found for them to sell.


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Umm vaccinations are against nasty diseases......how would destroying autistic brains have an effect on that? People get vaccinations to avoid diseases not because they think it helps autism. So I am confused. Hell if anything this hurts the pharmacutial industry because it will be harder for a cure to be found for them to sell.


Vaccines trigger a response by the immune system. The study was examining a possible causality between the immune system and autism.
Hence (possibily) a causal chain linking vaccines and autism.



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Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:04 pm

YippySkippy wrote:
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Umm vaccinations are against nasty diseases......how would destroying autistic brains have an effect on that? People get vaccinations to avoid diseases not because they think it helps autism. So I am confused. Hell if anything this hurts the pharmacutial industry because it will be harder for a cure to be found for them to sell.


Vaccines trigger a response by the immune system. The study was examining a possible causality between the immune system and autism.
Hence (possibily) a causal chain linking vaccines and autism.


I know what vaccines do and that they do not cause autism otherwise since most people get vaccines most people would have autism. See thing is its not as if people are born normal and develop autism they are autistic from birth so how does a vaccine cause autism?


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