How to tell if a girl likes you.
HopeGrows wrote:
I assumed that a man who had suffered ridicule because he didn't fit society's stereotype of masculinity wouldn't be so quick to use society's stereotypes of femininity against me, but after we broke up he began describing me publicly as emasculating, unattractive, undesirable....all the things a woman wouldn't want to hear from the same man who told her he admired her strength and thought she was beautiful. And I actually helped him hurt me because I made the "first move"....go figure.
So.....maybe cut us ladies a little slack when you start to believe that we're not meeting you halfway, or not making it any easier for you to approach us. Maybe we tried that once or twice, and all we got out of it was a nice new set of battle scars.
So.....maybe cut us ladies a little slack when you start to believe that we're not meeting you halfway, or not making it any easier for you to approach us. Maybe we tried that once or twice, and all we got out of it was a nice new set of battle scars.
He damned himself out of his own mouth - it makes no sense that a guy who truly finds somebody unattractive and undesirable, had a relationship with them......that's got to be sour grapes, and very badly-scripted sour grapes at that.
I completely agree that there's no point in the sexes blaming each other for the quirks of the mating game. Hopefully the whole sorry mess will eventually clear itself up.....I guess feminism is at some kind of halfway point where nobody quite knows what their proper roles are any more. I suspect that the emotional evolution of humans lags behind intellectual and ethical change, rather like with contraception where people are still as jealous and possessive as they used to be when sex equalled pregnancy.
ToughDiamond wrote:
I completely agree that there's no point in the sexes blaming each other for the quirks of the mating game. Hopefully the whole sorry mess will eventually clear itself up.....I guess feminism is at some kind of halfway point where nobody quite knows what their proper roles are any more. I suspect that the emotional evolution of humans lags behind intellectual and ethical change, rather like with contraception where people are still as jealous and possessive as they used to be when sex equalled pregnancy.
The movie, "Taming of the Shews" is about society's conflict with gender roles for women. Although it was written by Shakespeare, it is timeless to this day. In the movie, gender roles provide structure and order to society. I would be hard pressed to agree we have structure in this generation.
I suspect that gender roles will always be circumspect because men and women are inherently different in hormones and physiology. Men want sex more than women. There shall never be equality.
It's not like racism where we are comparing apples to apples, barring skin color.
CJame wrote:
ToughDiamond wrote:
I completely agree that there's no point in the sexes blaming each other for the quirks of the mating game. Hopefully the whole sorry mess will eventually clear itself up.....I guess feminism is at some kind of halfway point where nobody quite knows what their proper roles are any more. I suspect that the emotional evolution of humans lags behind intellectual and ethical change, rather like with contraception where people are still as jealous and possessive as they used to be when sex equalled pregnancy.
The movie, "Taming of the Shews" is about society's conflict with gender roles for women. Although it was written by Shakespeare, it is timeless to this day. In the movie, gender roles provide structure and order to society. I would be hard pressed to agree we have structure in this generation.
I suspect that gender roles will always be circumspect because men and women are inherently different in hormones and physiology. Men want sex more than women. There shall never be equality.
It's not like racism where we are comparing apples to apples, barring skin color.
OK if you like Elizabethan gender roles I guess. Personally I'm happier with the "equal power" model........dominating just doesn't work, not for men or women.
ToughDiamond wrote:
OK if you like Elizabethan gender roles I guess. Personally I'm happier with the "equal power" model........dominating just doesn't work, not for men or women.
Elizabethan gender roles is probably not the solution, but probably somewhere between that and extreme feminism.
I liked the movie because it made us all really think about the importance, or the non-importance of gender roles.
This conversation reminds me of my coworker. He said, "I wear the pants in the family, but she tells me which ones to wear."
CJame wrote:
Elizabethan gender roles is probably not the solution, but probably somewhere between that and extreme feminism.
i.e. equality. Actually I still have a high regard for the really militant, "anti-porn" feminism of yesteryear, because it had far greater integrity and courage, and it was a part of the left-wing movement, whereas the modern "girl power" lot are natural right-wingers.
n4mwd wrote:
I've noticed that in addition to eye contact and smiles, a girl that has the hots for you has a tendency to act as though she needs to go pee really bad. I mean, she will still talk to you, but you'll see her shifting her weight from one leg to the other and things like that.
Omigod! I was with a lady the other day who was doing that while I was talking to her, and it's not the only sign I've seen from her. She was sitting down the whole time but couldn't seem to keep still to save her life. And she didn't nip off to the toilet afterwards. Could it just be a coincidence, do you think? I mean there must be other reasons for that "body language," mustn't there? Maybe I should drop it out in conversation that I'm not ready for a relationship yet, just in case she's raising her hopes? I'd hate to hurt her feelings, and I don't want to lose her as a friend either.
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