Psychopathy, Asperger's: a 'serious' combination

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Highlander852456
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27 Apr 2013, 2:21 pm

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It's hard to believe. I've always thought of psychopathy and Asperger's as mutually exclusive conditions. Psychopaths are extroverts, aspies are introverts. Psychopaths crave excitement and new stimulations, whilst Aspies love routine and hate novelty. Psychopaths have shallow emotions, whereas Aspies have deep emotions with poor self-awareness. Psychopaths are often very charming, but Aspies are usually boorish. Psychopaths are brilliant liars, but Aspies tend to be clumsy liars.


You are sort of contradicting your self, because if someone has higher IQ he / she will probably be interested in new things.

Asperger people like routine, but there are many who do not have such routines. I would not put all people in a single bag. Not to mention that psychopaths are known to have routines too.

As for emotions that is true. Psychopaths display almost no emotions vs Asperger people.

As for Asperger liars or not, I have a theory that people with Asperger can become liars under stressful conditions as such. It could be a defens mechanism to avoid stress and fatigue.

As for charm that depends on conditioning. I think some Asperger people can clearly be charming, no doupt. Just, because some do not care to dress well or do not know how to or just because so many have trouble following social interaction does not mean all people with Asperger fail at socializing.



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27 Apr 2013, 2:43 pm

In my opinion it's two separate spectrums and they intersect sometimes

And I'd rather read about psychopaths than aspies as they are generally more interesting



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28 Apr 2013, 11:22 am

Highlander852456 wrote:
Bifford wrote:
It's hard to believe. I've always thought of psychopathy and Asperger's as mutually exclusive conditions. Psychopaths are extroverts, aspies are introverts. Psychopaths crave excitement and new stimulations, whilst Aspies love routine and hate novelty. Psychopaths have shallow emotions, whereas Aspies have deep emotions with poor self-awareness. Psychopaths are often very charming, but Aspies are usually boorish. Psychopaths are brilliant liars, but Aspies tend to be clumsy liars.


You are sort of contradicting your self, because if someone has higher IQ he / she will probably be interested in new things.

Asperger people like routine, but there are many who do not have such routines. I would not put all people in a single bag. Not to mention that psychopaths are known to have routines too.

As for emotions that is true. Psychopaths display almost no emotions vs Asperger people.

As for Asperger liars or not, I have a theory that people with Asperger can become liars under stressful conditions as such. It could be a defens mechanism to avoid stress and fatigue.

As for charm that depends on conditioning. I think some Asperger people can clearly be charming, no doupt. Just, because some do not care to dress well or do not know how to or just because so many have trouble following social interaction does not mean all people with Asperger fail at socializing.


All these adjectives you use are value judgments. I don't know how you're supposed to measure "charm" or "need for routine" or "ability to lie" ("Oh, I guess I'm kind of like a psychopath because I lied that one time to my best friend"). I can't really offer you any solid arguments. All I can say is that I've read books on psychopaths and books on asperger's sufferers and they seem like completely different people to me. Take that for what you will.



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25 Apr 2021, 11:13 am

Is it possible that I might end up committing crimes without meaning to do so if I don't understand what people are trying to tell me or if I am in panic? I have ASD.

Prof. Sam Vaknin explained that people with HFA (like me) can do something stressful or distressful and that people like me with HFA could commit crimes without meaning to do so or are in panic, because people like me don’t have very good social skills.

I feel scared and confused! Because statistics and studies point out that people with mental health and developmental disorders are less likely to commit crimes and are ten times more likely to be victims than the general population.

Source:

http://mentalhealth.gov/basics/mental-h ... yths-facts

Statistics and studies of mental health, development and personalities are similar in almost all over the world.


Prof. Sam Vaknin explained that only people with HFA (High-functioning Autism) can have conduct disorders and I am one of them. I am a High-functioning person with ASD who also has a diagnosis of Conduct Disorder Unspecified.


https://youtu.be/7GjuAdqi1nA