Let's Debate the Religion of Star Trek!! !
Since many of us here agree that the bible is an antiquated and obsolete book, lets start a new religion!! Since Star Trek was basically just a bunch of morality plays, with archetypal myths, let's debate the moral value of it.* Why not, it could'nt be any more of a waste of time then pointing out the obsolete morality of thr bible!!
Personaly I'm a devotee of St.Kirk. He shows us the value of spreading your seemen across the galaxy and how to land the green alien babe.
*Legal disclaimer. I'm NOT a Trekkie, I've had a girlfriend and been laid in the past 2 months. I don't live at my parents house and have a collection of pokemon cards.
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What is Futurama and how does that relate to Star Trek and religion?
"Futurama" was an animated TV show from the creators of "The Simpsons." Took place in the future. I wasn't a huge fan, but I did see an episode where Fry (the main character, who was from our time period but got frozen and launched into the future) finds out that "Star Trek" transformed from a bunch of TV shows to a full-blown religion, and various religious wars that were spawned by this caused it to be totally outlawed.
I like some "Trek." "First Contact" is a great film. My parents are more into Trek than I am, though none of us are huge trekkies. I'm more of a "Harry Potter" geek, myself.
I believe the New Trek to be more relevent then the Old Trek.
The Captain of the Old Trek was just some testosterone driven freak. It shows the ideas of the people at the time. You've got all these stupid violent aliens, there is no motivation there, we're just supposed to see them as "Bad". The so called morals are questionable at best, and ultimately just boils down to 'Oh hey, we're right.'
New Trek however is 'kinder and gentler' in terms of The Captain. It shows the power of the thinker. The calm one. The one who puts personal ego aside. New Trek shows a complicated universe in which people can hold a different opinion and yet they might not have one that is wrong. The brutes of Old Trek are recast into a new role. Now they are no longer thugs, but proud warriors. They are given a belief system. They have a reason for being as they are. No longer are they 'wrong' but 'distinct'.
The Captain of the Old Trek was just some testosterone driven freak. It shows the ideas of the people at the time. You've got all these stupid violent aliens, there is no motivation there, we're just supposed to see them as "Bad". The so called morals are questionable at best, and ultimately just boils down to 'Oh hey, we're right.'
New Trek however is 'kinder and gentler' in terms of The Captain. It shows the power of the thinker. The calm one. The one who puts personal ego aside. New Trek shows a complicated universe in which people can hold a different opinion and yet they might not have one that is wrong. The brutes of Old Trek are recast into a new role. Now they are no longer thugs, but proud warriors. They are given a belief system. They have a reason for being as they are. No longer are they 'wrong' but 'distinct'.
BLASPHEMY FROM A FOLLOWER OF SQUIGGY!! ! You have entered our holy house to corrupt the word of "GOD". I CAST THEE OUT FROM OUR PLACE OF HOLY WORSHIP AND DAMN THEE TO THE "Trouble with the Tribbles" EPISODE!! !
This was my 420th post. COOL!!
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I AM HATRED AND RAGE EMBODIED! I AM ZEROMUS! I HATE ALL!! !
Especially bloody Trekkies....
Edited for colour/color.
Ha! A charecter like that was in the first season of Next generation! PROVING that everything has it's source in Gene Roddenbery
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The Captain of the Old Trek was just some testosterone driven freak. It shows the ideas of the people at the time. You've got all these stupid violent aliens, there is no motivation there, we're just supposed to see them as "Bad". The so called morals are questionable at best, and ultimately just boils down to 'Oh hey, we're right.'
New Trek however is 'kinder and gentler' in terms of The Captain. It shows the power of the thinker. The calm one. The one who puts personal ego aside. New Trek shows a complicated universe in which people can hold a different opinion and yet they might not have one that is wrong. The brutes of Old Trek are recast into a new role. Now they are no longer thugs, but proud warriors. They are given a belief system. They have a reason for being as they are. No longer are they 'wrong' but 'distinct'.
Blimey
Thats a rather nice way of comparing classic ST to TNG DS9, Voyager and Enterprise. I guess because when ST was around the cold war was very much in gear then and its just so obvious that the Klingons were mean't to be Russians back then The Romulans were the British/old world europe. But I guess its just a testament to what a good writer Gene Rodenberry was
The Captain of the Old Trek was just some testosterone driven freak. It shows the ideas of the people at the time. You've got all these stupid violent aliens, there is no motivation there, we're just supposed to see them as "Bad". The so called morals are questionable at best, and ultimately just boils down to 'Oh hey, we're right.'
New Trek however is 'kinder and gentler' in terms of The Captain. It shows the power of the thinker. The calm one. The one who puts personal ego aside. New Trek shows a complicated universe in which people can hold a different opinion and yet they might not have one that is wrong. The brutes of Old Trek are recast into a new role. Now they are no longer thugs, but proud warriors. They are given a belief system. They have a reason for being as they are. No longer are they 'wrong' but 'distinct'.
True, but then most tv shows from the 60s, especially sci-fi, haven't stood the test of time too well. look at the skimpy little skirts the female crewmembers would wear in the classic series..
still, there were a lot of parallels to 20th century issues in the original. the klingon-federation rivalry was very much like the U.S.-Soviet Cold War. Also, as ridiculous as the original might seem, it did foresee the use of personal desktop computers, cell phones (their communicators looked like flip phones), and other technologies we take for granted now.
still, there were a lot of parallels to 20th century issues in the original. the klingon-federation rivalry was very much like the U.S.-Soviet Cold War. Also, as ridiculous as the original might seem, it did foresee the use of personal desktop computers, cell phones (their communicators looked like flip phones), and other technologies we take for granted now.
Ryebot, your point that most 60's Sci-fi has'nt stood the test of time, simply illustrates the fact that Roddenberry was divinely inspired. May the Federation's blessings be bestowed upon you!!
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