Saddam Hussein's Last Letter (let's analyze and discuss)

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26 Jan 2011, 8:14 am

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.



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26 Jan 2011, 8:33 am

The worst baddies are those that do the things they do thinking they are doing the right thing.


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26 Jan 2011, 11:06 am

MCalavera wrote:
It was obvious that Saddam wasn't a nice guy at all. He tortured people and a lot of Iraqis hated his guts.


True, but every intelligent person who KNOWS the history and culture of Iraq will confirm that you had to be ruthless and rule with an iron fist to maintain stability in that region. We befriended Saddam because he was a necessary evil. A poor choice? Maybe, but look at how Iraq is now...on the verge of tearing itself apart as factions fight for power. These people NEVER lived together in peace. Iraq used to be 3 separate regions fighting with each other.

Without a strong hand to force them to play nice, they won't choose to.



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26 Jan 2011, 11:17 am

MCalavera wrote:
Do you truly believe actions speak louder than words?



Absolutely.

Just because a serial killer writes a book about compassion doesn't mean he is a compassionate person. Words are ink on paper, actions change reality. Words have the power of inducing action but they are nothing but ink on paper unless they are acted upon.



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26 Jan 2011, 11:35 am

MCalavera wrote:
Was Saddam Hussein truly a loving and forgiving man full of mercy and kindness (as his letter implies)? Or was he truly a sicko who had no idea what love and compassion is?


He was a politician in a brutal land and his mental illnesses that spurred him to politics also spurs his delusions to see himself as forgiving and full of mercy despite being one of the more bloody tyrants of the last couple decades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissist ... y_disorder

^Many politicians and religious people fit into this disorder.


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26 Jan 2011, 11:53 am

I would say Saddam was just plain evil. Bush would never have allowed a child to be fed to a wood chipper. Heck if any American troops had pulled a stunt like that, you'd have to have the Secret Service keeping Bush from killing those individuals himself.



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26 Jan 2011, 12:03 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
The worst baddies are those that do the things they do thinking they are doing the right thing.


You have a point. Their delusional good intentions implies they have no second thoughts. They have nothing to repent. Very dangerous.

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26 Jan 2011, 12:08 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Vexcalibur wrote:
The worst baddies are those that do the things they do thinking they are doing the right thing.


You have a point. Their delusion good intentions implies they have no second thoughts. They have nothing to repent. Very dangerous.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissist ... y_disorder


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26 Jan 2011, 12:13 pm

Jacoby wrote:
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.


And funded with tax revenue.

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26 Jan 2011, 12:21 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.


And funded with tax revenue.

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Why do that when you can sell it off to a private contractor who'll charge double and pay the actual laborers half?


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26 Jan 2011, 2:27 pm

skafather84 wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.


And funded with tax revenue.

ruveyn


Why do that when you can sell it off to a private contractor who'll charge double and pay the actual laborers half?
Cuz at least I can choose between different private contractors. When it comes to the government there's only one choice.



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26 Jan 2011, 2:41 pm

AceOfSpades wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.


And funded with tax revenue.

ruveyn


Why do that when you can sell it off to a private contractor who'll charge double and pay the actual laborers half?
Cuz at least I can choose between different private contractors. When it comes to the government there's only one choice.


You really think it's a matter of choice?

The government doesn't shop around contracts, contracts are awarded to friends and family. It's probably the worst example of "it's who you know". At least with direct government, you aren't stuck with the same bad contract AFTER they're out of office. It's how and why mayors screw over New Orleans so much, they give out outlandish contracts to their friends in their last term that last beyond their mayoral terms. Nagin bankrupted the city with how much he was giving away and how much of it extended beyond his terms in office (and how many deals he brokered in his last 30 days). And that has nothing to do with democrat or republican, it has to do with this idiotic idea that private contractors are actually shopped in the same way that an individual consumer might (though not all do) shop around for deals.


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27 Jan 2011, 6:37 pm

Has any Christian replied to this thread? I'm interested in what they have to say.



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27 Jan 2011, 10:57 pm

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Actually I am right on topic. You didn't mention religion. You said that Saddam was a bad man but a smooth talker.
I am saying that there is no difference between him and our last several presidents except perhaps that Saddam actually cared about raising the living standards of his own people.

Saddam was a secular socialist.

Hmmm... acid baths, rape rooms, and public beheadings? Yeah, I'd say that's no worse than sleep deprivation or waterboarding.


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28 Jan 2011, 1:04 am

1. Hussein sounds like a windbag.
2. Yes, actions speak louder than words.
3. Christ's 'final' action was to die on the Cross for us.
4. Why do you consistently define yourself against Christianity? What are you actually *for*?



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28 Jan 2011, 1:51 am

Natty_Boh wrote:
1. Hussein sounds like a windbag.
2. Yes, actions speak louder than words.
3. Christ's 'final' action was to die on the Cross for us.
4. Why do you consistently define yourself against Christianity? What are you actually *for*?


Saddam's final action was to die for his beloved country. Take that! :D

As for your last question, I will answer that in a new thread that I will most likely create soon concerning why I left the faith.