I am not sure if I have Asperger's Syndrome or not
I find that I have many symptoms that are common with asperger's syndrome but I am not sure if it is asperger's or just avoidant personality disorder. I realize that a self diagnosis could be dangerous and my doctor states that I shouldn't pay much heed to Asperger's.
This is my info : I am 24 years old of age and have always been rather precocious since a young age.I was always able to learn and grasp things much faster than others and because people were unable to understand me it led to social isolation. These are the symptoms I think I have in common with Asperger's
1)I think I have motor dyspraxia but not too much as I am much too clumsy with things and often hold things delicately or drop them. Conversely I can play and dribble with a basketball well....also shoot.. I am also good with video games.
2)I don't like making eye contact with people but I try to as I have been told it is odd. However my eye contact is often forced and people end up feeling weird.
3) I am not very emotional and am unable to reciprocate on a emotional level with people and I do understand the jokes they make. I consider these jokes as being stupid and rather preposterous. However while writing my sense of humor is profound if not bizzare.
4)Erratic mood swings . Quirky sense of humor that is different from the mainstream.
5)No facial expressions and at times expressions deemed to be correct in situations are inappropriate
6)Get angry if things don't go my way and my emotional outbursts are considered as being strange.
7)People often think that I am rude and arrogant and I tend to avoid social situations
I notice things that others often do not.
9) I have keen and intense interests and I go to great bounds to learn of something that has caught my attention. I consider various sources to do so. I must also continually keep my mind occupied with something.
10)Unable to express myself well verbally although I have no problems doing so though non verbal mediums. Speech is often formal and stilted. I can ramble on with regard to the topics I like.
11)Extreme logic and reasoning in circumstances
12)Fixed gaze and fascination with objects
13)I get upset if people disrupt my thought process or interrupt what I am doing. I lose interest in the work that I am trying.Conversely I have no problem multi tasking and often do several things at once.
14)Was bullied at school for being unusual and am employed below ability at present in a media firm
15)Have strong opinions that are different from the norm. People do not usually acquiesce to my views but opon hearing my reasoning most do agree...
Symptoms that indicate I might not have Asperger's
A)I am not pedantic and do not like routine. I cannot stick to routines and get bored if that happens
B)Closed one's think that I am normal and the problem is only when I come across new people.
C)Isolation is self imposed as I don't like people and am different from others.
D) Interests although intense are myriad and varied. I can understand and grasp abstract concepts well and am capable of abstract thinking.
E)Was hyperactive as a child
F)I understand human expressions and minute facial changes theoretically and can depict them if I pretend to imagine myself as being a character in a play.
G) I had no trouble completing my education normally with a bachelors degree in management although I was unable to give presentations or interact much with my peers.
h) I have heard that people with asperger's are skilled artists. However my handwriting is terrible and I cannot paint or draw as my skill with a pen/pencil is lacking...
I)I am tall, around 6'2 and contain no lacking physical characteristics....no apparent delays in physical development and I acquired puberty early.
Do you still think it is possible that I have Asperger's?....l am not very sure. I just think it is my hate of the human race that makes it seem that I have Asperger's
Last edited by Ryuzaki21 on 18 May 2011, 12:32 am, edited 2 times in total.
Look up the DSM for Aspergers again and re-order what you have. Not everything needs to match 100%. Is the doctor you speak of, a family practice perhaps? or a psychologists? a specialist?
Frankly I'm rather close to you in some ways, for example:
You say you dislike routine... but are you sure you don't do it anyway? I realized I did routines, (strict routing/behaviors) very obviously at work, but never realized I did it on a day by day giant routine basis during school (so it was never apparent to myself on a moment's notice). I don't like repetition I recognize..., but I do it myself all the time.
I'm undiagnosed as well, but in my life... I have no other answer to why I have been this way in my life. Trying to get a 2nd opinion from a specialist is important to figure out your own opinion's accuracy. As an aspie may not typically try to get a 2nd opinion, it is very worth pursuing.
This is my info : I am 24 years old of age and have always been rather precocious since a young age.I was always able to learn and grasp things much faster than others and because people were unable to understand me it led to social isolation. These are the symptoms I think I have in common with Asperger's
1)I think I have motor dyspraxia but not too much as I am much too clumsy with things and often hold things delicately or drop them. Conversely I can play and dribble with a basketball well....also shoot.. I am also good with video games.
2)I don't like making eye contact with people but I try to as I have been told it is odd. However my eye contact is often forced and people end up feeling weird.
3) I am not very emotional and am unable to reciprocate on a emotional level with people and I do understand the jokes they make. I consider these jokes as being stupid and rather preposterous. However while writing my sense of humor is profound if not bizzare.
4)Erratic mood swings . Quirky sense of humor that is different from the mainstream.
5)No facial expressions and at times expressions deemed to be correct in situations are inappropriate
6)Get angry if things don't go my way and my emotional outbursts are considered as being strange.
7)People often think that I am rude and arrogant and I tend to avoid social situations
I notice things that others often do not.
9) I have keen and intense interests and I go to great bounds to learn of something that has caught my attention. I consider various sources to do so. I must also continually keep my mind occupied with something.
10)Unable to express myself well verbally although I have no problems doing so though no verbal mediums. Speech is often formal and stilted. I can ramble on with regard to the topics I like.
11)Extreme logic and reasoning in circumstances
12)Fixed gaze and fascination with objects
13)I get upset if people disrupt my thought process or interrupt what I am doing. I lose interest in tghe work I am doing then.Conversely I have no problem multi tasking and often do several things at once.
14)Was bullied at school for being unusual and am employed below ability at present in a media firm
15)Have strong opinions that are different from the norm. People do not usually acquiesce to my views but opon hearing my reasoning most do agree...
Symptoms that indicate I might not have Asperger's
A)I am not pedantic and do not like routine. I cannot stick to routines and get bored if that happens
B)Closed one's think that I am normal and the problem is only when I come across new people.
C)Isolation is self imposed as I don't like people and am different from others.
D) Interests although intense are myriad and varied. I can understand and grasp abstract concepts well and am capable of abstract thinking.
E)Was hyperactive as a child
F)I understand human expressions and minute facial changes theoretically and can depict them if I pretend to imagine myself as being a character in a play.
G) I had no trouble completing my education normally with a bachelors degree in management although I was unable to give presentations or interact much with my peers.
h) I have heard that people asperger;s are skilled artists. However my handwriting is terrible and I cannot paint or draw as my skill with a pen/pencil is lacking...
I)I am tall, around 6'2 and contain no lacking physical characteristics....no apparent delays in physical development and I acquired puberty early.
Do you still think it is possible that I have Asperger's?....l am not very sure. I just think it is my hate of the human race that makes it seem that I have Asperger's
Yep a lot of the signs are there.
My advice is to read as much as you can about AS and try to find tactics to mitigate the negative features and try to engineer situations that play to your strengths.
You are lucky to have this insight in your early 20s!
PS Hating the entire "human race" get a grip mate!
Frankly I'm rather close to you in some ways, for example:
You say you dislike routine... but are you sure you don't do it anyway? I realized I did routines, (strict routing/behaviors) very obviously at work, but never realized I did it on a day by day giant routine basis during school (so it was never apparent to myself on a moment's notice). I don't like repetition I recognize..., but I do it myself all the time.
I'm undiagnosed as well, but in my life... I have no other answer to why I have been this way in my life. Trying to get a 2nd opinion from a specialist is important to figure out your own opinion's accuracy. As an aspie may not typically try to get a 2nd opinion, it is very worth pursuing.
He is a family psychiatrist. He did not state specifically that I do not not have Asperger's. Only that it is a pervasive developmental disorder and he thinks I shouldn't give it much attention as it would hinder my ability to lead a normal life. Personally I am not very sure and I think getting an accurate diagnosis is very important....Thank you very much for all your feedback and I think I will get a second opinion. The DSM do not match match completely and thus I need to know. I have considered various sources that diagnose Asperger's and I fear greatly that I might have it......I shall however draw a conclusion once I get another opinion from an established psychiatrist.
I think I can try and deal with social situations. I must do so as I get depressed often.
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This makes no sense to me. I had no idea about this stuff until I read about it (and then it was intensely familiar) and my life prior to learning about and confirming it was plenty hindered.
Where do people come up with these things?
And yeah, your list sounds like you have a lot of traits. Certainly worth looking into if you want to look into it.
As for the OP, I wouldn't know but yes there are some signs there.
Could be or you could have ADHD. Hyperactivity is commonly grown out of by adulthood. The fact that you said routines bore you may pint to that as well. ADHD is more than hyperactivity and many symptoms overlap with AS, just the social skills aren't as affected.
It depends. I isolate myself from people too but that's because I know how I am around them and that they offer little enjoyment to me. If fact you might say I've developed avoidant personality disorder too.
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Not necessarily, but it seems that rigid language usage (The "formal and stilted" part) was one of the defining characteristics of the OP's writing that implied autism. If we could demonstrate that his language usage wasn't as rigid as might be thought, then that's one more piece of evidence on the "Probably not aspergers" side and one more piece of evidence towards the "Alienatingly different highly intelligent misanthropic guy" hypothesis.
Btw, fellow misanthrope, I hate the human race as well. There are some fundamental reasons relating to non-innovative "herd thinking" that characterizes the vast majority of humanity, but it's more or less because people tend to dislike me. My reasons tend towards the practical side... ... (Though, that'd probably make it impractical, eh? hehe.)
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No, I do not have ADHD. I might have been hyperactive as a child but not as an adult and I can sit in one place for long. Also I do not follow any routines whatsoever and once I exhausted my love for a specific topic then I find information on something new....I am a skilled arbitrator and can view the pros and cons of a situation very well.
Not necessarily, but it seems that rigid language usage (The "formal and stilted" part) was one of the defining characteristics of the OP's writing that implied autism. If we could demonstrate that his language usage wasn't as rigid as might be thought, than that's one more piece of evidence on the "Probably not aspergers" side and one more piece of evidence towards the "Alienatingly different highly intelligent misanthropic guy" hypothesis.
Btw, fellow misanthrope, I hate the human race as well. There are some fundamental reasons relating to non-innovative "herd thinking" that characterizes the vast majority of humanity, but it's more or less because people tend to dislike me. My reasons tend towards the practical side... ... (Though, that'd probably make it impractical, eh? hehe.)
It is indeed true that I am a misanthrope. It is only because I find them "other people" as being often bigoted and espousing a "herd mentality" as you have rightly stated.They often judge you for your mannerisms and behavior and jump to inane conclusions without regard to the actual ability that you might possess. I only do not follow religious norms, social diktats or dogma.I am also a nihilist..Personally I don't think am abnormal, just that other people are abnormal. oh, I also do understand slang and colloquialisms very well...I have studied them.It is very possible to write in a normal everyday way although I would prefer not to as this is how I think. I believe the formal and stilted speech comes from my ability to examine things from various perspectives before resorting to speech. People believe that I am slow....This is not true.
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For the record, I still have ADHD at 41, and I was hyperactive as a child. Hyperactivity in adults expresses itself differently, not always an inability to sit still.
Also, ADHD is an extremely common comorbid with autistic spectrum disorders, so you may have it either way.
The following are my points of contention: Do let me know if these rule out Asperger's by an degree.
The ability to think abstractly and pontificate over something.
No routines whatsoever.
I don't like crowded places but have problem being in those. I live in the most crowded place in the planet and that is India.
I am very pleased with the responses I have got so far and I thank you all. However I am still not entirely sure if I have Asperger's or not.
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