global warming models proven "huge"-ly wrong

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31 Aug 2011, 5:53 am

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The science is now all-but-settled on global warming, convincing new evidence demonstrates, but Al Gore, the IPCC and other global warming doomsayers won’t be celebrating. The new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun — not human activities — as the dominant controller of climate on Earth.

The research, published with little fanfare this week in the prestigious journal Nature, comes from über-prestigious CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, one of the world’s largest centres for scientific research involving 60 countries and 8,000 scientists at more than 600 universities and national laboratories. CERN is the organization that invented the World Wide Web, that built the multi-billion dollar Large Hadron Collider, and that has now built a pristinely clean stainless steel chamber that precisely recreated the Earth’s atmosphere.

In this chamber, 63 CERN scientists from 17 European and American institutes have done what global warming doomsayers said could never be done — demonstrate that cosmic rays promote the formation of molecules that in Earth’s atmosphere can grow and seed clouds, the cloudier and thus cooler it will be. Because the sun’s magnetic field controls how many cosmic rays reach Earth’s atmosphere (the stronger the sun’s magnetic field, the more it shields Earth from incoming cosmic rays from space), the sun determines the temperature on Earth.


I've quoted the above from today's Daily Telegraph (UK)

To no great surprise, the sun has been confirmed as the main source and cause of Earth's climate change, whether warming or cooling. The planet as effectively been cooling since 1998 as the sun heads towards a Maunder minimum (a regular cycle of a low number of sunspots, reducing temeratures on earth) so wrap up warm for the next few years, folks!


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03 Sep 2011, 7:15 am

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To no great surprise, the sun has been confirmed as the main source and cause of Earth's climate change, whether warming or cooling. The planet as effectively been cooling since 1998 as the sun heads towards a Maunder minimum (a regular cycle of a low number of sunspots, reducing temeratures on earth) so wrap up warm for the next few years, folks!


On a chilly night being able to pull a CO2 blanket up to our chins might actually be useful. CO2 will prevent the next "little ice age" from happening.

Even so, I would prefer electric heating powered by nuclear fission.

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04 Sep 2011, 9:58 pm

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Everyone with a real understanding of the danger of global warming should take action. Turn off your computers, Now.


And for more hysteria:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/ ... ilisations

Guess all the competitent people left NASA when the shuttles were retired.


Or, maybe between NASA and Stephen Hawking, they know something we don't? 8O

Paul Krugman may be taking advantage of it. :wink:



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07 Sep 2011, 10:22 pm

straightfairy wrote:
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The science is now all-but-settled on global warming, convincing new evidence demonstrates, but Al Gore, the IPCC and other global warming doomsayers won’t be celebrating. The new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun — not human activities — as the dominant controller of climate on Earth.

The research, published with little fanfare this week in the prestigious journal Nature, comes from über-prestigious CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, one of the world’s largest centres for scientific research involving 60 countries and 8,000 scientists at more than 600 universities and national laboratories. CERN is the organization that invented the World Wide Web, that built the multi-billion dollar Large Hadron Collider, and that has now built a pristinely clean stainless steel chamber that precisely recreated the Earth’s atmosphere.

In this chamber, 63 CERN scientists from 17 European and American institutes have done what global warming doomsayers said could never be done — demonstrate that cosmic rays promote the formation of molecules that in Earth’s atmosphere can grow and seed clouds, the cloudier and thus cooler it will be. Because the sun’s magnetic field controls how many cosmic rays reach Earth’s atmosphere (the stronger the sun’s magnetic field, the more it shields Earth from incoming cosmic rays from space), the sun determines the temperature on Earth.


I've quoted the above from today's Daily Telegraph (UK)

To no great surprise, the sun has been confirmed as the main source and cause of Earth's climate change, whether warming or cooling. The planet as effectively been cooling since 1998 as the sun heads towards a Maunder minimum (a regular cycle of a low number of sunspots, reducing temeratures on earth) so wrap up warm for the next few years, folks!

The study did show that cosmic rays are forming aerosol, but not enough for cloud formation. This is just a example of the intellectual dishonesty that climate deniers frequently use.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/08/31/no-a-new-study-does-not-show-cosmic-rays-are-connected-to-global-warming/


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07 Sep 2011, 11:54 pm

Tollorin wrote:
straightfairy wrote:
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The science is now all-but-settled on global warming, convincing new evidence demonstrates, but Al Gore, the IPCC and other global warming doomsayers won’t be celebrating. The new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun — not human activities — as the dominant controller of climate on Earth.

The research, published with little fanfare this week in the prestigious journal Nature, comes from über-prestigious CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, one of the world’s largest centres for scientific research involving 60 countries and 8,000 scientists at more than 600 universities and national laboratories. CERN is the organization that invented the World Wide Web, that built the multi-billion dollar Large Hadron Collider, and that has now built a pristinely clean stainless steel chamber that precisely recreated the Earth’s atmosphere.

In this chamber, 63 CERN scientists from 17 European and American institutes have done what global warming doomsayers said could never be done — demonstrate that cosmic rays promote the formation of molecules that in Earth’s atmosphere can grow and seed clouds, the cloudier and thus cooler it will be. Because the sun’s magnetic field controls how many cosmic rays reach Earth’s atmosphere (the stronger the sun’s magnetic field, the more it shields Earth from incoming cosmic rays from space), the sun determines the temperature on Earth.


I've quoted the above from today's Daily Telegraph (UK)

To no great surprise, the sun has been confirmed as the main source and cause of Earth's climate change, whether warming or cooling. The planet as effectively been cooling since 1998 as the sun heads towards a Maunder minimum (a regular cycle of a low number of sunspots, reducing temeratures on earth) so wrap up warm for the next few years, folks!

The study did show that cosmic rays are forming aerosol, but not enough for cloud formation. This is just a example of the intellectual dishonesty that climate deniers frequently use.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/08/31/no-a-new-study-does-not-show-cosmic-rays-are-connected-to-global-warming/


To throw this back in your face, having thermometers next to heat exhausts for cooking stoves, on blacktop, or by an air conditioning exhaust is also guarenteeing bad readings and was probably done for dishonest reasons.



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08 Sep 2011, 9:04 am

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To throw this back in your face, having thermometers next to heat exhausts for cooking stoves, on blacktop, or by an air conditioning exhaust is also guarenteeing bad readings and was probably done for dishonest reasons.


The shrinkage of major glaciers is an indication of warming. And they are located nowhere near cooking stoves or blacktop. There is warming. The -real- question is what is the cause or major driver. Is it human activity or are there other factors at work such as solar output, orbital anomalies, cloud formation which is affected by cosmic ray input. These other factors have not been dealt with completely. There is a political motivation to attribute the warming solely to human activity. This is a pretext for economic regulation and a general anti-industrial anti-capitalist drum beat.

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18 Sep 2011, 2:39 pm

http://tinyurl.com/3trourf

it is no longer the world we thought we were living in.
deal with it.


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