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16 Oct 2011, 2:43 am

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Prolly the best strategy is just not to say racist stuff :lol:


But where's the fun in that? The real giggles come from saying racist sounding stuff around sensitive white people, and then engineering a meeting with the spouse in their presence. Maybe it's just me, but tweaking white guilt is endlessly amusing, especially if you live in a place like Seattle with pretensions of tolerance it doesn't quite live up to.


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16 Oct 2011, 2:57 am

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Cain's rise is completely a media creation just like McCain was in 2007/2008 whether it stick is yet to be seen but his 9-9-9 plan is getting decimated, his support for the FED and TARP have been exposed, he has like no campaign in early states. Despite him being a Pokemon master and Sims fan, I have to imagine his numbers will start dropping like a rock soon too. I wonder who they'll try to elevate next? Newt is a possibility but hard to believe considering his high negatives, maybe Santorum? Huntsman? It's all a joke. It's all a distraction so the focus isn't on Romney, Romney is who they really want.


Herman Cain's rise actually took the media by surprise cause they were treating it like a two person race.


Who told you that? The media? :lol: Probably some propagandist like Frank Luntz and his fake 'focus groups' which has been caught on more on one occasion of using the same actors.

Herman Cain was elevated because Rick Perry self-destructed and before him Michelle Bachmann was the candidate for like 2 weeks and before that Donald Trump.

Anyone that supports Herman Cain is, quite frankly, a stupid person. His 9-9-9 plan is regressive, raises taxes, and opens up a whole new revenue streams for the government to bone us with. He supported TARP, was a chairman of a Federal Reserve bank, and an Alan Greenspan fanboy. Despite his supposed expertise as a businessman, he completely failed to predict the housing bubble and financial collapse of 2008. He's openly racist towards Muslims. Saying you like him because he's a political outsider is beyond dumb because on top of being the chairman of the Federal Reserve bank of Kansas City, he also was also the head lobbyist of the National Restaurant Association; the largest lobbying group for restaurants and fast food in the country. He is no stranger to the Beltway.



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16 Oct 2011, 6:49 am

Jacoby wrote:

Anyone that supports Herman Cain is, quite frankly, a stupid person. His 9-9-9 plan is regressive, raises taxes, and opens up a whole new revenue streams for the government to bone us with. He supported TARP, was a chairman of a Federal Reserve bank, and an Alan Greenspan fanboy. Despite his supposed expertise as a businessman, he completely failed to predict the housing bubble and financial collapse of 2008. He's openly racist towards Muslims. Saying you like him because he's a political outsider is beyond dumb because on top of being the chairman of the Federal Reserve bank of Kansas City, he also was also the head lobbyist of the National Restaurant Association; the largest lobbying group for restaurants and fast food in the country. He is no stranger to the Beltway.


thank you for that input. You cured me of Herman Cain-itis.

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16 Oct 2011, 12:41 pm

His popularity and media attention will fade within the next couple of weeks, and the Hermann Cain jokes will subside (as happened with Mrs. Bachmann and Rick Parry), and another face will be pushed to the forefront, to maintain our attention and to keep us entertained.

The public perception of the 9-9-9 plan has already gone from "Gee, what an amazingly simple but beautiful plan, that will usher in a new era of prosperity and Conservatism!' to "Ugh! I don't want to pay a 9 percent sales tax! Get this Socialist scumbag out of here!"

As head of the National Restaurant Association, Mr. Caine had to have been a firm supporter of pressuring customers to pay restaurant employees 20 percent tips. That's already quite a bit more than the 9 percent that he wants to exact in new taxes. If a nine percent tip is too low, a nine percent tax will also be too low.



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16 Oct 2011, 12:42 pm

On Meet The Press today Herman cited John Bolton, Henry Kissinger, and KT McFarland as his main foreign policy influences. He also claims he has never heard of the "neoconservative movement".

This guy gets worse and worse.



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16 Oct 2011, 2:07 pm

Jacoby wrote:
On Meet The Press today Herman cited John Bolton, Henry Kissinger, and KT McFarland as his main foreign policy influences. He also claims he has never heard of the "neoconservative movement".

This guy gets worse and worse.


Jacoby, you're not convincing me to change my vote to the lunatic Ron Paul, or the looney former Governor of New Mexico.

Fact of the matter is, I could think of much worse as far as advisors he could have named.



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16 Oct 2011, 2:17 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
On Meet The Press today Herman cited John Bolton, Henry Kissinger, and KT McFarland as his main foreign policy influences. He also claims he has never heard of the "neoconservative movement".

This guy gets worse and worse.


Jacoby, you're not convincing me to change my vote to the lunatic Ron Paul, or the looney former Governor of New Mexico.

Fact of the matter is, I could think of much worse as far as advisors he could have named.


You couldn't get much worse than John Bolton, Henry Kissinger, and KT McFarland. And, I think you mean the looney former Governor of Utah.



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16 Oct 2011, 2:40 pm

pandabear wrote:
Inuyasha wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
On Meet The Press today Herman cited John Bolton, Henry Kissinger, and KT McFarland as his main foreign policy influences. He also claims he has never heard of the "neoconservative movement".

This guy gets worse and worse.


Jacoby, you're not convincing me to change my vote to the lunatic Ron Paul, or the looney former Governor of New Mexico.

Fact of the matter is, I could think of much worse as far as advisors he could have named.


You couldn't get much worse than John Bolton, Henry Kissinger, and KT McFarland. And, I think you mean the looney former Governor of Utah.


I'm talking about the Former Governor of New Mexico Gary Johnson if I remember his name correctly.

Former Governor Huntsman of Utah is the one Michael Moore endorsed.



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16 Oct 2011, 3:37 pm

Herman Cain is a hell of a lot smarter then Mick Romney



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16 Oct 2011, 4:01 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
On Meet The Press today Herman cited John Bolton, Henry Kissinger, and KT McFarland as his main foreign policy influences. He also claims he has never heard of the "neoconservative movement".

This guy gets worse and worse.


Jacoby, you're not convincing me to change my vote to the lunatic Ron Paul, or the looney former Governor of New Mexico.

Fact of the matter is, I could think of much worse as far as advisors he could have named.


You'll vote for whoever FNC tells you to so there is no real point in arguing with you on that subject matter. I didn't even mention the one man who was warning about the housing bubble and financial crisis to come for more than a decade. :roll:

You really can't get worse than John Bolton, Henry Kissinger, or KT McFarland tho. I don't know the extent of your bloodlust, I'm hoping you're just ignorant, you'd have to be a sociopath to support their brand of foreign policy.

There is even more dirt on that disastrous 9-9-9-9 plan is rolling out too like the unconstitutional "empowerment zones". All taxes must be geographically uniform, it states that clearly in the constitution. That's not even considering the actual consequences of these supposed "empowerment zones", which Herman Cain described as being could be more like a "3-3-3 plan". It will push the poor into these economically depressed areas and lock in the ones already there, these ghettos will be the only place they can afford to live. What about the whole notion of eliminating loopholes, this is HUGE one but I suppose it's okay since it's superficially helping a targeted group.

Cain is also weak on gun rights considering it a "state issue" which I can only assume he supported the right of DC to ban firearms and Chicago to ban handguns which the Supreme Court found unconstitutional in MacDonald v Chicago and District Of Columbia v. Heller.



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16 Oct 2011, 4:14 pm

Herman Cain has never played the race card either another reason I like him.



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16 Oct 2011, 4:46 pm

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Herman Cain is a hell of a lot smarter then Mick Romney


First off, you're wrong. Usually I'd say it's a matter of opinion, but the 999 plan is just so incredibly idiotic. If you think Herman Cain is smart, you have no idea what you're talking about. Second off, it's MITT Romney.



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16 Oct 2011, 5:21 pm

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Herman Cain is a hell of a lot smarter then Mick Romney


First off, you're wrong. Usually I'd say it's a matter of opinion, but the 999 plan is just so incredibly idiotic. If you think Herman Cain is smart, you have no idea what you're talking about. Second off, it's MITT Romney.


Danke lad but I like Herman Cain that isn't going to change sure its a bad idea but I would rather deal with that then anything Mitt ROMNEY will come up with you do not like him cause he is a republican :wink:



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16 Oct 2011, 7:30 pm

Joker wrote:
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Herman Cain is a hell of a lot smarter then Mick Romney


First off, you're wrong. Usually I'd say it's a matter of opinion, but the 999 plan is just so incredibly idiotic. If you think Herman Cain is smart, you have no idea what you're talking about. Second off, it's MITT Romney.


Danke lad but I like Herman Cain that isn't going to change sure its a bad idea but I would rather deal with that then anything Mitt ROMNEY will come up with you do not like him cause he is a republican :wink:


Actually the only thing I'm a little iffy concerning the 999 plan, is the sales tax. The idea of reducings the thousands of pages of tax law, to about 1 to 2 pages though is kinda appealing.

The person I want to be the nominee is actually Newt Gingrich, though cause I think he has the best ideas as to what to do, and how to get things to actually pass congress. I would not have a problem with Herman Cain being the nominee though.

Currently I want a Gingrich/Cain or Cain/Gingrich ticket, seriously either one of them could be dead drunk and beat Gaffe a minute Biden in a debate. I would really enjoy Gingrich mopping the floor with the teleprompter in chief.



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16 Oct 2011, 9:11 pm

Maybe he should reduce it to six percent, and call it the 666 plan.



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16 Oct 2011, 9:19 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
Joker wrote:
Obres wrote:
Joker wrote:
Herman Cain is a hell of a lot smarter then Mick Romney


First off, you're wrong. Usually I'd say it's a matter of opinion, but the 999 plan is just so incredibly idiotic. If you think Herman Cain is smart, you have no idea what you're talking about. Second off, it's MITT Romney.


Danke lad but I like Herman Cain that isn't going to change sure its a bad idea but I would rather deal with that then anything Mitt ROMNEY will come up with you do not like him cause he is a republican :wink:


Actually the only thing I'm a little iffy concerning the 999 plan, is the sales tax. The idea of reducings the thousands of pages of tax law, to about 1 to 2 pages though is kinda appealing.

The person I want to be the nominee is actually Newt Gingrich, though cause I think he has the best ideas as to what to do, and how to get things to actually pass congress. I would not have a problem with Herman Cain being the nominee though.

Currently I want a Gingrich/Cain or Cain/Gingrich ticket, seriously either one of them could be dead drunk and beat Gaffe a minute Biden in a debate. I would really enjoy Gingrich mopping the floor with the teleprompter in chief.


Newt Gingrich is good so is Herman Cain I would like to see Newt Gingrich as president and Herman Cain as vice president or the other way around is good to.