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21 Feb 2012, 7:34 pm

http://www.change.org/petitions/massach ... urg-center

The judge rottenburg center is a place where they torture autistic kids to make them normal. It is the only mental hospital in the united states to still use shock therapy. I am petitioning to shut them down. there is a longer winded description on the site that gose into gory details. I apologize for not posting them in full here but i hate writing that stuff, it brings back memories, and i have been campaigning for a while so i write this stuff everywhere.



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21 Feb 2012, 8:02 pm

Information on the center here: WP: Judge Rotenberg Educational Center
WGS84: 42.177336, -71.111928

Sounds they are ripe for harsh lawsuit?

"electrical shocks, pinching, force feeding of hot peppers, force smelling of ammonia, seclusion, restraint, and sensory deprivation."

Impressive they can continue this activity without any intervention that means business.

How are children admitted?, by parents? by state force?



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21 Feb 2012, 8:11 pm

CosTransform wrote:
Information on the center here: WP: Judge Rotenberg Educational Center
WGS84: 42.177336, -71.111928

Sounds they are ripe for harsh lawsuit?

"electrical shocks, pinching, force feeding of hot peppers, force smelling of ammonia, seclusion, restraint, and sensory deprivation."

Impressive they can continue this activity without any intervention that means business.

How are children admitted?, by parents? by state force?
there is already a lawsuit. they have good lawyers. The UN even tried to intervene on a human rights violation but united states courts upheld the JRC. I don't think the fact that this place is still running is any surprise. The attitude of the average american towards autistics is that we deserve to die and there is no regulation of asylums and mental hospitals. This is by far the biggest abuse we know of, but things like this are common. Its a far reaching issue. And yes parents and the state both admit children.



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21 Feb 2012, 8:28 pm

They are restricted from using electroshock aversives with new patients, by executive order of the massachusetts governor, but are allowed to continue to use the aversives on existing patients.

http://www.disabilityrightsintl.org/2011/11/07/an-end-to-electric-shock-punishments-at-jrc/

They are being investigated by the US Justice Department. There is a link on the site linked above where one can express there concerns directly to the Justice Department Investigation team.



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21 Feb 2012, 8:33 pm

thank you for your imput ahogday. maybe the petition should be aimed at the justice department.
I don't think the JRC will take any steps forward unless they are forced to.



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21 Feb 2012, 8:39 pm

Thank you for sharing this important information.



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21 Feb 2012, 8:40 pm

aspie48 wrote:
thank you for your imput ahogday. maybe the petition should be aimed at the justice department.
I don't think the JRC will take any steps forward unless they are forced to.


That's probably a good idea. The Department of Developmental Disabilities is already fully aware of the problem, has provided partial restrictions, and will provide more restrictive regulations on the JRC, depending on the outcome of the US Justice Department investigation. If criminal acts are discovered they will be addressed appropriately. The link, provides a direct email address to the US Justice Department, representative, associated with the investigation.



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22 Feb 2012, 12:30 am

Well I am glad everyone is aware of the problem but nothing is being done.....why the hell haven't they put a stop to these 'therapies' already and shut the damn place down.


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22 Feb 2012, 12:33 am

Let's raid them!



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22 Feb 2012, 2:18 am

I would like to point out that napalming a non-combatant area is illegal and I would never do it. Having said that, the thought is still an appealing one.

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22 Feb 2012, 2:30 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Well I am glad everyone is aware of the problem but nothing is being done.....why the hell haven't they put a stop to these 'therapies' already and shut the damn place down.


http://www.globalization101.org/torture-in-the-u-s-shocking-disabled-children-at-the-judge-rotenberg-center/

The reason the therapy continues is that the courts allow it in Massachussetts. Nothing further may change, unless the Justice Department finds further abuses, or legislators at the Federal or State Levels, can be convinced to take action.


http://www.globalization101.org/torture-in-the-u-s-shocking-disabled-children-at-the-judge-rotenberg-center/

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Gaps in U.S. federal and state legislation

U.S. government officials at the state and local levels are aware of the JRC and its practices, yet it has been allowed to carry out aversive therapy for 40 years. What U.S. laws are there to protect people with disabilities? What gaps exists in U.S. jurisprudence that would allow JRC to practice aversive therapy? The MDRI report tried to answers these questions.10

On the federal level, cruel and unusual punishment is prohibited by the U.S. Constitution’s 8th amendment. The U.S. Supreme court limited these protection to criminal law, thus students in schools are not protected. No federal limits exist for the use of restraints in schools or for the use of corporal punishment. Children with disabilities are protected by the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA), although this act allows positive behavioral interventions, it does not prohibit aversives.

The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and the Developmental Disabilities Assistance and Bill of Rights Act (DD Act) protect children with disabilities and states that children with disabilities cannot be placed in a situation of greater risk than the general population. Though, a class action suit in a federal court resulted in a decision that the DD Act did not create any new legal rights or protections.

Since there are no federal laws limiting the use of aversives, states set their own regulations. Some states, such as California (the original home of the JRC) make it nearly impossible to use aversives. While in Massachusetts, aversives are permitted. JRC submits all high level aversives (level 3) to the court for approval. The courts have rarely denied JRC permission to use the requested aversive. While Massachusetts law limits the use of restraints, the Department of Developmental Services claims that these protections are not applied to children in an approved behavior modification. A theory that states that every human being responds to positive rewards or negative punishments and that all behavior can be manipulated through a combination of rewards and punishments plan.


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Finally, in November 2011, the Massachusetts Department of Developmental Services adopted new regulations to limit the use of aversives. New admittances cannot be subject to shock therapy, long-term restraints and other aversives that could pose risk of long-term psychological damage.

Current patients could continue to receive the shock treatment. The U.S. Department of Justice also opened an investigation of the children at the JRC. While this decision and investigation is a great step forward, the MDRI has called for a blanket ban in the U.S. on shock therapy and aversive treatment for children and adults with disabilities.17

It is horrific that this center has been allowed to stay open for the past 40 years. It is a travesty that legislators at the state and federal levels have not mandated a better solution for the most severe cases. Torture is never the answer.



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22 Feb 2012, 8:37 am

it is illegal to use shock treaments in the state of massachusetts.call the massachusetts state police and try to get an investigation going.the state police were instrimental in closing the gaebler childrens center and metropolitan state hospital


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22 Feb 2012, 11:12 am

shrox wrote:
Let's raid them!


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22 Feb 2012, 12:45 pm

Just tell JRC.. Nice fuse box you have there.. and water supply, and access road :twisted:



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22 Feb 2012, 12:50 pm

aghogday wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Well I am glad everyone is aware of the problem but nothing is being done.....why the hell haven't they put a stop to these 'therapies' already and shut the damn place down.


http://www.globalization101.org/torture-in-the-u-s-shocking-disabled-children-at-the-judge-rotenberg-center/

The reason the therapy continues is that the courts allow it in Massachussetts. Nothing further may change, unless the Justice Department finds further abuses, or legislators at the Federal or State Levels, can be convinced to take action.


http://www.globalization101.org/torture-in-the-u-s-shocking-disabled-children-at-the-judge-rotenberg-center/

Quote:
Gaps in U.S. federal and state legislation

U.S. government officials at the state and local levels are aware of the JRC and its practices, yet it has been allowed to carry out aversive therapy for 40 years. What U.S. laws are there to protect people with disabilities? What gaps exists in U.S. jurisprudence that would allow JRC to practice aversive therapy? The MDRI report tried to answers these questions.10

On the federal level, cruel and unusual punishment is prohibited by the U.S. Constitution’s 8th amendment. The U.S. Supreme court limited these protection to criminal law, thus students in schools are not protected. No federal limits exist for the use of restraints in schools or for the use of corporal punishment. Children with disabilities are protected by the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA), although this act allows positive behavioral interventions, it does not prohibit aversives.

The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and the Developmental Disabilities Assistance and Bill of Rights Act (DD Act) protect children with disabilities and states that children with disabilities cannot be placed in a situation of greater risk than the general population. Though, a class action suit in a federal court resulted in a decision that the DD Act did not create any new legal rights or protections.

Since there are no federal laws limiting the use of aversives, states set their own regulations. Some states, such as California (the original home of the JRC) make it nearly impossible to use aversives. While in Massachusetts, aversives are permitted. JRC submits all high level aversives (level 3) to the court for approval. The courts have rarely denied JRC permission to use the requested aversive. While Massachusetts law limits the use of restraints, the Department of Developmental Services claims that these protections are not applied to children in an approved behavior modification. A theory that states that every human being responds to positive rewards or negative punishments and that all behavior can be manipulated through a combination of rewards and punishments plan.


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Finally, in November 2011, the Massachusetts Department of Developmental Services adopted new regulations to limit the use of aversives. New admittances cannot be subject to shock therapy, long-term restraints and other aversives that could pose risk of long-term psychological damage.

Current patients could continue to receive the shock treatment. The U.S. Department of Justice also opened an investigation of the children at the JRC. While this decision and investigation is a great step forward, the MDRI has called for a blanket ban in the U.S. on shock therapy and aversive treatment for children and adults with disabilities.17

It is horrific that this center has been allowed to stay open for the past 40 years. It is a travesty that legislators at the state and federal levels have not mandated a better solution for the most severe cases. Torture is never the answer.


So because of a bunch of stupid political crap these kids have to continue to suffer abuse until the federal government gets around to looking at the issue. This just pisses me off, the kids there are probably being abused as I type this but no one can lift a finger because there's not a specific law written somewhere that prohibits such abuse? grrrr makes me f*cking angry. Some justice department we have.


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